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| Topic Started: Jul 3 2009, 01:54 AM (261 Views) | |
| Gerry StPierre | Jul 3 2009, 01:54 AM Post #1 |
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Interesting article about an old cipher sent to Thomas Jefferson by one of his correspondents. It has been solved by a math professor at UPenn. |
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| mosher | Jul 3 2009, 01:31 PM Post #2 |
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Hi Gerry, Great link to a very interesting article -- thanks! As far as I can tell, Dr. Smithline's article "A Cipher to Thomas Jefferson" (American Scientist. 2009) has not been published in Cryptologia, so that explains why many of us are not aware of it. Did Dr. Smithline know what the underlying system was? Even if he did, this would not detract from the ingenuity of finding the precise sequence of 2-digit numbers. A computer, however, could run through all possible combinations in a relatively short amount of time. In David Kahn "The Codebreakers" (5th edition, 1967) page 194 there are references that indicate that the cipher system was publicly known:
Kahn references Patterson's cipher as found in Jefferson's Papers, ff. 20446-9. Summarizing, I think we can agree that Dr. Smithline's commendable achievement, given the cipher system, was simpler than Chaocipher. I look forward to reading the article about his solving methods. |
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| Gerry StPierre | Jul 4 2009, 01:52 AM Post #3 |
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Hmmm, it appears I misread the article a bit. The UPenn math professor was Jefferson's correspondent, not the person who solved it. That honor goes to
I agree that it presents a simpler challenge than Chaocipher does.
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