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| Crypto challenge: from Cipher Deavours college course, 1976 | |
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| Topic Started: Jul 11 2009, 07:16 PM (138 Views) | |
| mosher | Jul 11 2009, 07:16 PM Post #1 |
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In 1976 I corresponded with Professor Cipher Deavours about a bimonthly cryptologic journal he was trying to put together called "Polygraphia". It never materialized, transforming instead into the journal "Cryptologia". In that letter he sent me some assignment problems he had given his students in his Kean College course entitled "Cryptography and Cryptanalysis". Professor Deavours is definitely an original and effective educator (as evidenced by his technical articles) and his assignments have a nice real-life feel to them. Try your hand at one such assignment.
The challenge here is to find the overall patterns and, using that knowledge, solve the last message. Good luck! Moshe |
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| mosher | Jul 11 2009, 09:28 PM Post #2 |
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The original assignment read "1930 / Saturday / 28 Feb. / CNSAITPYLR / UXFOUZFJHIUI" as listed in the previous posting. I believe this is a typo and should read "1930 / Saturday / 28 Feb. / CNSAITRLYP / UXFOUZFJHIUI". Moshe |
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| tenpanaris | Nov 7 2009, 09:11 AM Post #3 |
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I don't think there is a typo at all. Here is how I calculate the Alphabet keys: X = 10, ! = skip (repetition) MON - STEP 1 CRYPTANALYSIS 1234567!8!9X TUE - STEP 2 CRYPTANALYSIS 1728394 5 6X! WED - STEP 3 CRYPTANALYSIS 19!2X63 74 85 THU - STEP 4 CRYPTANALYSIS 1 852 963 !74 FRI - STEP 5 CRYPTANALYSIS 1649527!X!38! SAT - STEP 6 CRYPTANALYSIS 1X!7642 98!53 MONDAY CRYPTANLSI TUESDAY CYTNLSRPAI WEDNESDAY CPNYSALIRT THURSDAY CTLSPAIYNR FRIDAY CASYTRNIPL SATURDAY CNSAITPYLR Cipher key is just a plain mono substitution on the written number of the day. Eg, 19th = NINETEENTH = OJOFUFFOUI There are two slightly odd things about this. One is the minor typo in the CT. The other is the fact that the second keyword is TENTH. Either the Prof screwed it up, or the reason the FCC couldn't decrpyt this message is because the criminals made the mistake and encrypted with the plaintext keyword TENTH, forgetting to apply the monosubstitution they had applied to the other cipher keys. This actually threw me off for ages, until I let Cryptool 1.4 have a go at finding the Vignere key, and it came up with TENTV, which is surprisingly good considering how short the CT is. |
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