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Round 11; Clusterfuck
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Topic Started: Apr 20 2012, 09:54 AM (208 Views)
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Zidane
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Apr 20 2012, 09:54 AM
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Sephiroth thinks he can blindside me over a fucking quitter. Please. I will turn this whole tribe against him.
on the rise. More later when I'm not tired as hell.
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Apr 20 2012, 09:53 PM
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So you don't plan on working with Gilgamesh, or what?
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Zidane
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Apr 21 2012, 12:52 AM
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I'm not really sure yet. Gilgamesh isn't my main priority right now, but I do plan on working with him in the future.
I guess I'll talk about last night. The Chaos tribe is just... so dumb. They have no tact whatsoever. Let's talk about all the places they went wrong yesterday.
1) Voting me out over Kuja. How insulting. Kuja was sitting here wanting to quit, yet they decide to keep him over me, when I am clearly more of a threat to them if they make an enemy out of me.
2) Blindsiding me. Last night's vote didn't need to be a blindside, but apparently it was all some elaborate set up. Apparently Kuja, probably on Seph's orders, continued to play it up to me and Gilgamesh that he wanted out of the game. In reality, he was in on a plan to get me out. CoD and Seph lied to me and Gilgamesh all day about it... for no reason. They could have just said "Kuja decided he wants to stay, and we are more loyal to him, sorry." But no, they had to make it a blindside.
3) Sephiroth acting like he had nothing to do with it. Please. How stupid does he think I am? There's no way in hell that a plan was concocted to save Kuja, and Sephiroth had nothing to do with it. Seph is the ONLY person on Chaos that's close to Kuja. He bullshit acting in the TC thread were so transparent. "OMG ZIDANE!? WHAT!?" "Wow. I had nothing to do with this at all. I'm so shocked." "How on Earth did this manage to happen? I've never been more surprised." What a fucking idiot.
4) Their piss poor timing. Like really... you blindside a loyal ally, who has connections to Cosmos, at the final 11? We had been talking about a possible merge at 10, and how I would stick with them and everything. And I would have. I would have pulled in Terra, since she was dying to get away from Cosmos, and made a run at it with the Chaos people. But not anymore. You blindside me and lie to me right before the merge, and you can kiss any loyalty I had to you goodbye.
So I now stand firmly on team Cosmos. I'll make a new confessional for my Cosmos dealings though. One sec.
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Zidane
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Apr 21 2012, 01:05 AM
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This is what I'm going for right now. I knew coming into this merge, after being blindsided by Chaos, that I'd be running straight back to Terra and Kefka, because Terra and I have been close all game, and Kefka and I were close back on Chaos. But the most important person for me to talk to on this tribe was Tifa. If I'm going to switch sides completely and try to work with Cosmos, I was going to have to repair my broken relationship with Tifa. If you recall, her and I had a bit of a spat on the main boards, after she learned that I wanted her vs Ultimecia in the Arena.
Anyway, I really went to work with her last night. We hashed it out, and really tried to get our old relationship back on track. Because Tifa and I used to be very good friends on this tribe, and when I got voted out, she turned on Ultimecia for me. So I know she's a really emotional player, so I have to play on her emotions. Easy enough. We've been exchanging the longest PMs that I've had with anyone in this entire game. And during that time, she brought up the idea of Zanarkand's Babes or whatever the fuck it's called. The people that Tidus has in his signature... me, her, Kefka, Terra, and Ultimecia. I think if we can all agree to work together, we would be pretty unstoppable.
I've been telling everyone on Cosmos, except the twat because I don't trust her, about the dynamics of Chaos, and how Sephiroth is the head of that snake. So I've got Tifa onboard to target him, and Ultimecia will probably come along with Tifa. Kefka already hated Sephiroth anyway, and Terra doesn't seem to like him either. So he's my main target, and I'm working to get everyone else against him too. I'm not sure if Gilgamesh is going to work with us or not. I think he feels hurt by Sephiroth's lies last round, but he might not be as vengeful as I am. I told him all my feelings in our secret group, and I'm waiting for him to respond.
I think if we have the 5 of us, and maybe 6, voting against Sephiroth, we should be able to get him out. I know he's a powerhouse with his items, but he shouldn't be able to overpower us all. I'm expecting Kuja, CoD, and proably Shantotto to vote with him. Against... I'm not sure. Logic would say that they'd go for Terra or Tifa, since he wouldn't want to risk going against me, Ultimecia, or Kefka in the Arena. But those people aren't logical, so I wouldn't be surprised if it was me. Sephiroth has apparently offered a "threats" alliance to Tifa/Ultimecia immediately upon arriving on this new tribe. Which I predicted he would do. He's so transparent. Tifa isn't going for it... not sure about Ultimecia yet.
Anyway if all works out, Sephiroth will face off against someone like Terra in the Arena on Sunday, and she'll own him. She says she's amazing at challenges, so I hope she's right.
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Apr 21 2012, 01:51 AM
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Tidus wants to hear about how you are doing. He'd love a message.
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Zidane
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Apr 21 2012, 02:00 AM
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Tell him "fuck you for not giving me any gil or items."
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Apr 21 2012, 02:05 AM
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ok I just did, he will appreciate the message.
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Apr 21 2012, 04:41 AM
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You could also just send him my previous update, up there. ^
I'm sure he'd enjoy knowing that the Zanarkand Babes is becoming a real thing.
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Apr 21 2012, 07:53 AM
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I know that most hosts/cohosts couldn't give a shit about reading PMs. I know I don't. But for the rare cohost out there that might have some interest in reading PMs, I'm going to post the ones between me and Tifa, because they basically sum up everything that's going on this round. Tifa was the most valuable person for me to talk to, and getting back in her good graces is something that I think is really going to help me in this game. For easy reference, I put my PMs in blue, and Tifa's in pink.
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I'm not sure where to start. Hey again Zidane I knew fate would have us cross paths again. Are we both over the little spat we had on the main boards the other day, or should I start off with an apology? I'm over it I didn't take any of it personally. After I cooled down I realized I was being hot-headed with a lot of shit I was saying. I'm an emotional bitch. I figured if there was animosity at that time we'd eventually get over it since we clicked quite well before your vote-off.
Fuck me sideways for missing the first hours of this merge! I feel all eyes on Ultimecia and I.  I actually already laughed with Ultimecia over the fact that you left the board literally seconds before the background and banner and everything changed. It was really bad timing.
I'm glad we can just look past it. I know you thought of it as a betrayal when I told Tidus I was hoping that you/Ultimecia ended up in the Arena together. I know that must have been a slap in the face after you voted against Ultimecia during my boot and never did anything wrong to me. But like I said on the main board, if this game had no items in it, you probably would have been my closest ally throughout this entire thing, because I had longer and more substance-filled conversations with you than I had with anyone else in the game. But it just got to a point when I was just terrified of you. Plain and simple.
But thankfully... I've gotten over that phase. Maybe it's the fire inside me right now that just wants to see Chaos burn in hell for voting me out over a quitter tonight. But I have no intentions of voting for you or Ultimecia any time in the near future. I'm thinking more align the lines of Shantotto (I'm embarrassed to say) and am of the mindset... if you can't beat them, join them. I've told Shantotto that I don't just want to jump back into this tribe and try to dictate what goes down and have everyone follow my agenda. But all I can do is offer the knowledge I have of the inner workings of Chaos, and then make some suggestions based on that.
Bottom line. Sephiroth is their HBIC. I think that much has become clear in the arguments people have been having on the main board. Anyone that dared stand up to Sephiroth was quickly removed from the tribe. I'm sure you've heard Kefka's story of why he was voted out... because he dared mention Sephiroth's name as a boot target. The same fate met Jecht, when he targetted Sephiroth. And then tonight, I was stupid enough to tell CoD that we should vote for him after we got rid of Kuja (who was basically quitting the game). Anything said about Sephiroth literally gets back to him within minutes. CoD, Kuja, and Gilgamesh are all blinded by some pathetic need for his approval and acceptance.
I wouldn't be surprised if that group guns for you or Ultimecia. But I also wouldn't be surprised if they gun for me, since I told them in our Tribal Council tonight "I hope we merge so I can just join up with Cosmos and pick you all off." And those were my last words before being moved to the Arena soooo... they pretty much know where I stand on the situation. You blindside me (over a quitter) an hour before the merge, you can fuck off and die as far as I'm concerned.
So that's where I stand. I'm more than happy to rekindle our old relationship as if nothing has ever happened, if you are. My relationship with Ultimecia might take a bit more time to repair, since I've voted her out of this game three times. But I think it can be done. I understand, Zidane. A huge part of me wishes we didn't vote for Tidus a few days ago, I truly miss him and I would like to believe if Shan and I voted for someone else instead, Tidus and I eventually could have smoothed things over. I was just livid with him and channeled that rage onto you guys, I don't know. I expected him to vote for everyone on Cosmos before casting a vote for me. Not because he had a "mind of his own" or whatever, but I got really attached to him.
Shan actually made the Ultimecia vote happen last round and is quite smart, people don't give her enough credit. We swapped a few items to make that shit happen and then she was like "hey I'm not giving you your Hyper Ring back 'till next round because Ulti needs to go" and it was such a bitch move, but it was smart, so whatever. I really want to trust you Zidane, more than anything I want to be friends with my allies (weakbitch.org) and I think we have a connection. But I won't lie, a part of me will always be skeptical to throw my trust right back in -- even though I realize it strategically made sense, what you wanted to see happen. And I'm sure everyone will want to see it happen again soon. I guess we'll just face that when we come to it.
Sephiroth sent me a message saying that he wanted a "threat alliance" (lol, get the fuck out of here) of me, Ulti, and him. So if CoD/Gilgamesh/Kuja are all up his ass already, I know he's bullshitting. What you said in the arena about Kuja wanting to quit is hilarious, if he wants to quit then what's stopping him? I'd really love to vote him out right now just for that reason, because I know damn well I'm not content with 10th and I know you or anyone else isn't either.
I am pretty broke right now but what I said a few rounds ago is true -- I will use my accessories for my allies. And I'm really not a decked out IN items as everyone makes me out to be :lol: I have three voting-related accessories right now. I had a Decoy and it broke.
I'm ready to rekindle it I missed you a little bit, I won't lie. It sucks because when Ulti left Kefka and Terra started opening up so much more and were fun to talk to, but when she came back everyone kind of shut up again. I love her but she's kind of a dark cloud over everything and being with her is a binding feeling. I miss Tidus too. He was one my best friends here because we just clicked from the first moment we started talking, and being put in a secret group with him on top of it was just icing on the cake. I was pissed off that night too. I ended up taking most of it out on Shantotto, and only aiming a bit of my venom at you. I hate when I get like that, because I always regret it later. But I really can't help it. When I get blindsided, especially when one of my good friends leave, I just start spitting venom and I can't help it. But the one good thing that came out of Tidus leaving, is that my secret group has pretty much been rendered useless. We get 2000 gil every 4 rounds... lol. So that's helped me a bit in distancing myself from Gilgamesh. On Chaos, I was forced into his alliance with Sephiroth, but it made me sick how much everyone, including Gilga, we willing to let Sephiroth strongarm the tribe. And of course I could never say anything, because I was just a mutineer trying to gain my footing. My opinion didn't matter. To anyone. It was so frustrating.
Holy shit. Shantotto is not as much of a fucking loser as I thought she was, if she was actually ballsy enough to pull something like that. Wow. I just gained a little respect for her. Maybe she does have a mind of her own. Why did you even give her a Hyper Ring in the first place? And I understand that you're skeptical. I'm skeptical too. But I think, in time, we can get over it. I'm not scared of you anymore. I'm not scared of you and Ultimecia anymore. Correct me if I'm wrong. But I think, when the time comes, you would let her go. With her amazing track record in this game, going to the end with her would be a disaster. That's one of the reasons that I'm not afraid of you as a pair anymore. Add to the fact that I (and probably everyone else too) have just as many voting items as you, and I just see you as someone that I'd love to do damage with. I have a doubler and a quadrupler that I bought tonight. Once I get enough gil to open up another Rosetta Stone, I can equip another doubler that Bartz gave me tonight. So we're in the same boat. And I think we can do a lot of awesome damage together. It will just take a bit of time for the trust to rebuild, and I think it's already started.
Do you mind if I tell other people that he approached you with that alliance? It will really help my case in trying to get people to turn against him and vote his ass out. I'm not scared of him or his items, but I'm scared of his ability to control people effortlessly. I don't want him to have a chance to do that to anyone from Cosmos like he did to the people from Chaos. Plus I think it would be hilarious if Kuja outlasted him, since he got rid of Jecht before Kuja, and tried to get rid of me before Kuja. It would be the perfect karma.
I missed you too. A couple of rounds after I'd been on Chaos, the hosts asked me in my confessional if I missed anyone from Cosmos. And I was like um... yes obviously Tidus and Terra... and Tifa too actually. I just missed the simple things. Like talking about Kill Bill and how gorgeous O-Ren's garden was. Just stupid shit like that. Chaos was just all business all the time, and they were so boring. Kefka already told me that he adores you. I'm not sure what it is about Ultimecia that makes people uncomfortable. I guess just the stigma that she's this unbeatable, invisible figure. Oh I understand a million percent Zidane. I started it by telling you to kiss my ass lol. My blood was boiling when Tidus said "everyone, even Zidane", but whatever. Let's not live in the past. Tidus' signature makes me fuzzy on the inside -- I ironically think you, Kefka, Ulti, Terra and I are objectively the 5 most awesome people in the game a Zanarkand Babes alliance would be so fucking hot. I mean, it's basically all of NuCosmos + you which is what you seem to be planning on wanting to do, at least this round, anyway. It excludes a Cosmos in Shan but eh, she could be a part of it I love that she wants Tidus' approval so much. So you're not close to Gilgamesh, did he vote you off instead of Sephiroth...? That is so ridiculous if he did. He must be jammed waaaay up Sephiroth's ass.
I gave her a Hyper Ring because the only way that me NOT going would have worked is if Shan had all the voting items and I had all the null items (since they would have nulled all of my votes.) So we basically swapped everything and after the round, she said she was going to hold on to it. She still has my Power Ring and it only would have worked if she had more rosetta stone slots so I literally gave her 5000 fucking Gil, it's part of why I'm broke :rolleyes: I actually just sent her a PM saying that she should consider it as a loan because I want it back, damn it. I have 2 Hyper Rings and a Hero Seal. And a Beckoning Cat but lol, whatever. Good job on getting a Muscle Belt I was so pissed because I had to go meet a friend and right when I opened my laptop the accessory had gone up, so I was even beaten to the 2nd Muscle Belt. 3 of them roaming around already is fucking scary, but if you have one, I'm only worried about the other 2. So you and I can both cast 5 votes each, nice. 
Yeah, I've thought about the obvious record-breaking statistics that Ultimecia has in this game and it would be suicide for anyone to go to the end with her. I mean, she makes a good shield and we collaborate together on items. If this leaks I'll castrate you :lol: but yeah, going to the end with Ulti would be a very bad idea. Did Tidus give you anything when he left? He gave Terra a Block Ring and I got 600 Gil (lol ), I'm not sure what he gave to anyone else. Ever since Tidus has left I haven't had talks like this with anybody, so honestly, I already trust you a lot considering how little I trust just about everyone else. Kefka is fucking amazing I love him. He's someone who is trustworthy.
Have a field day with that information I already told Kefka and Terra, lol. I imagine that he, Kuja, CoD, and Gilgamesh will get to send out whoever they want tomorrow (I despise this rule that 2 people leave, we're ALL going to have been voted out at one point or another eventually :rolleyes: ), so it's just a matter of knocking one of them into the arena too I suppose. Sephiroth it is. What items does he have? I responded to his "threat alliance" by saying that it was fine and dandy at all, but that I needed to figure out what items he had first lmao. So hopefully he spills. Kuja's going to be used and abused like a street hooker, I can already tell. Judging by his shtick I'm sure he'd like it, so whatever.
Zidane is it wrong that I'm seriously considering this Zanarkand Babes shit? It works since we're all awesome and smart. I don't even get why Tidus felt the need to bring me into, it but whatever. It is over and done with, and it's kind of funny to look back on. Tidus's signature <3 I actually just suggested that alliance to Kefka. Though I said me, you, him, and Terra. Kefka has reservations about Ultimecia because he's voted her out like... 4 times? I told him it wasn't a big deal because I've voted her out 3 times, and we're still keeping our lines of communication open and talking strategy. But if we want to make that work, which I REALLY do, we need to make Kefka and Ultimecia comfortable with each other. You're right, that I basically came into this merge hoping to form basically that exact alliance. And when you say I only want to do it for this round, that is definitely not true. If you want make a pact right here that we go to final 5 with that group, I'll make that pact. I have no qualms with it whatsoever.
In regards to Gilgamesh, no he didn't vote me out tonight. He was blindsided by the vote just as much as I was. But he's gone right back up Sephiroth's ass. It was really obvious in our TC thread that Sephiroth was lying and saying he was shocked. I think some direct quotes from him when the votes for me were read were: "OMG WHAT!?!?" and "I had no part in this. How on Earth did this happen??" It was so transparent and disgusting, and CoD has already told me that Sephiroth was involved and that he's full of shit. But Gilgamesh is buying what he's selling and trying to tell me that Sephiroth is still with us and had no idea. I just can't deal with stupid people like that, secret group member or not.
Telling Shantotto about the Zanarkand Babes idea... I'm not thinking that's best. My main issue with that is surprisingly not Shantotto herself, but more the fact that her relationship with CoD scares me. If we included her in that alliance, what would stop her from telling CoD about it, and trying to take one of us out either at this vote or the next? I guess my personal shit might be getting in the way here, but I don't trust Shantotto. I trust her even low based on the things you said... like her stealing your shit and not giving it back. That isn't a player I would trust, because she clearly lacks integrity. So if we're going to go ahead and do this, which I think we should, I'd ask that we leave Shantotto out of it. At least for the time being (maybe until CoD is out of the game, or something).
I have no idea what items Sephiroth has. He was never open about it with me. I know he used to have a doubler, but he sold it to Gilgamesh for 1000 gil. Sephiroth seems to value gil more than he values accessories. I'm pretty sure he's loaded, being a solo player and getting 1000 gil per round. I'd be amazed and really happy if you could get any information out of him about his items. Because I really have no idea. Tidus didn't give me fuck all when he left lol. I was pissed about that because I thought we were close, but I could understand him growing closer to you guys because I wasn't on his tribe anymore. That was one of the suckiest feelings about being on Chaos away from my friends... I just knew that the bonds of friendship over here were getting stronger and I was missing out on it. It was hard to swallow.
I agree that Kefka is completely amazing. Another shitty thing about being on Chaos is that I was forced to vote him out. All of the powers that be decided that he was some sort of Judas character, and he had to be slain immediately. Mostly because he was horrible enough to bring up Sephiroth's name as a boot. Back when I first arrived on Chaos, I would do these little Chaos rankings in my confessional. And the round I had to vote out Kefka, he ranked #1 on my ranking. It was awful being forced to be complacent because of my position of having to rely on Gilgamesh to basically form my alliances for me. I feel like I can breathe again and have a life of my own now that I'm not bound to whatever Gilgamesh has planned for me.
I do hate that those 4 will be able to vote out whoever they want tomorrow. This should just be straight up Survivor now that we merged. Every round being a double boot is going to be horrible. I honestly fear for you and Terra the most right now. Because me, Ultimecia, and Kefka have proven that we can win Arena duels, and they probably won't want to go up against any of the three of us. Honestly, it might not be a bad idea to try to get them to target Shantotto instead of one of you or Terra. Terra says that she'd be confident in her challenge abilities, but are you? I could lend you a nullifier that Bartz gave me too, that I also don't have enough room to equip right now. As long as you promise not to pull a Shantotto on me. I get why everyone in that group would be uncomfortable with Ultimecia being in the alliance. And on her end I'm sure that she might not want to be in it either. But I don't back down from what I want to do so she can either buckle up and enjoy the ride or do something else, I don't care. Ultimecia isn't one to hold grudges though, she'll go with whatever is best for her, hence her flipping to Tidus, Terra, and I even after we all voted for her the round prior. Did you know that she convinced Prishe we were all voting for her again, so she got Prishe to give her a Guard Ring...and then voted Prishe out? It was such a hilariously cunty move and is so quintessentially Ultimecia. I'll feel her out, her first post of this round in our main forum (we never PM each other, it makes shit easier) is to "not believe them" so I want to figure out who them is. I'll just casually say "wouldn't it be awesome if we had a Zanarkand Babes alliance?" in some half-joking manner and see what her response is, since I don't trust her to keep her mouth shut about it. 
That's so disappointing and gross, about him climbing right back up his ass. I don't even see what's so special about Sephiroth, he's extremely boring and MOR? :rolleyes: Rofl at that terrible acting job. That's the kind of thing that would make someone lose my vote. CoD telling you that is pretty awesome actually, maybe she does have a mind of her own somewhere? I feel mildly guilty now for telling Kefka that Kuja and CoD were complete background bitches who need to go, a couple of rounds ago I used to be somewhat intimidated by Gilgamesh for appearing to be a rational, savvy player, but from what you've told me I don't fear him at all.
Lol, I wasn't suggesting that we tell Shan about Zanarkand Babes, more-so we just string her along with it and yeah, I have no clue how close she is with CoD -- I know that she paid CoD for a Decoy last round but her Decoy is already used up since Terra null'd her vote. Bartz null'd mine. Hopefully I CAN get info about his items and the threat alliance doesn't get back to him as being outed heh. I feel bad for you having to be on Chaos this entire time, Cosmos is clearly more amazing in just about every way. But you have Cosmos running through your veins anyway good God, I can't imagine having to be on a tribe with Kuja and Sephiroth that entire time.
Oh yeah, I'm honestly a little resigned to the fact that they're probably voting for me. Kuja and CoD have been all "it's so nice to finally meet you" and stupid shit like that :rolleyes: I know Terra will do great, she's always been really confident about surviving an arena. Me, I'm a little inconsistent with my abilities. I'm great at speed and post-by-post question-based challenges but there's obviously not anything like that here. I'm not amazing in challenges across the board by any stretch. I would've done well with this most recent challenge, only because I've played a shit load of Triple Triad. Getting them to vote for Shan is actually pretty genius, but at the same time, I hate to say it, I see her losing the arena but at least she'd give me (I'm assuming) my Gil/Power Ring back! I secretly hope they do it now.
I won't pull a Shantotto on you. I'd hate for someone to pull something like that on me (which is what more or less happened, but she ended up giving the Hyper back and I was okay with letting her have the Power, so whatever -- it's the fucking Gil I want back), so I won't do it to anybody. But hold on to it for now until we get a pulse on what it is they want to do? If Sephiroth's somehow in the dark about me being involved in shit-talking him, I want to try and get a lot out of him.
On that note, I need to go to bed talk to you tomorrow, hun. I don't think everyone is uncomfortable with Ultimecia. I know I'm not... I'm not sure about Terra, because I haven't even spoken to her about any of this yet, since she hasn't been back online since around 11 or 12 last night. As far as I know, it's only Kefka, and he's only uncomfortable with it because he thinks she won't trust him. But if you and I can work past some bad history we've had in the past, I'm sure those two can as well. Tidus did tell me about the Prishe situation, with the Guard Ring and everything. As you can probably guess, I was having a field day in our secret group forum and my confessional, laughing non-stop about how awful and stupid Prishe was. Oh and then I made that LOL PRISHE thread, to share my joy with everyone else in the game too. That was such a good round. But yeah, let me know how Ultimecia feels. I haven't broached the subject with her yet about us five teaming up, and I won't until you let me know how she reacts.
There's nothing special about Sephiroth. When I first arrived at Chaos, Gilgamesh and the Emperor were telling me how important it was to talk to Sephiroth and get on his good side. So I started talking to him and I just didn't see the appeal. That weekend that I joined their tribe, I spoke to Sephi the least out of everyone on the tribe. He just comes off as very fake in his PMs to me, and I guess it's because he never planned on keeping me for very long. I wouldn't put too much thought into CoD ratting Sephiroth out. She's probably only doing it for self-preservation. Because Sephiroth is trying to blame it all on her and Kuja. If I was her, I'd be like umm... what the hell? You voted Zidane out too, don't try to blame this on me. Which is exactly what she's doing. I don't think it has anything to do with her having a mind of her own, but rather she doesn't want to take all the blame for something. Gilgamesh... I'm not sure about him. He might be a number on our side. Now that Sephiroth has confessed to me that he was bullshitting, Gilgamesh might be pissed at him. He told me in our forum that he isn't going to work with Sephiroth if he's going to just lie to him. So there's potential there. Obviously I don't want to pull Gilgamesh into our alliance, because I fear he may still have some loyalty to Sephi. But I can just tell him how I'm voting, and hope that he joins me.
With the news you brought me in that second PM... maybe they will vote for me afterall. If Sephiroth is trying to turn you against me, or whatever he's trying to do, that could be a sign that he's planning to vote for me and get as many votes against me as he can muster up. He isn't above lying, and he'll lie to anyone in a heartbeat. It's kind of scary to have someone like that against you, because who knows who will believe his lies? I'm doubting that we can get them to boot Shantotto. I wouldn't even know who to approach about that. I've already told Sephiroth to stop messaging me. CoD is her partner, so not her. Kuja is a mute with no pull over anyone, so not her. And Gilgamesh is sort of on the outs of that group right now... so... I don't know. If Shantotto did end up leaving, I highly doubt she'd give your stuff back to you. I expect it would go to CoD.
Alright, I'll keep it with me for now. I think it could benefit us to swap around some of our items, to catch them off-guard. They all know that Ultimecia has tons of nullifying items, so they probably won't vote for her. But if they voted for you, and say you and Ultimecia swapped items, it would catch them off-guard. I'll try to see if Gilgamesh can leak their target to me, and we can try to strategize from there.
In recent news Shan reciprocated my demands for giving me my Gil back by paying me 1300! I hope she knows her ass is still 3700 in debt. :rolleyes:
My last message to her is still pending too, all she said of note is that Sephiroth is trying to kiss her ass so we know he's schmoozing up to everyone I love how transparent and see-through his lies are. It's hilarious. Thanks for showing me the PM chain, it's disgusting that he's trying to rip us apart I made a post in our secret forum about the alliance, but she hasn't been online a lot today. I'll let you know what she says. Honestly, knowing Ulti, I don't think she would ever trust him but if he's willing to not vote for her, and likewise him with her, then it'll all work out. She's stubborn as hell. We were able to get past our history twice because we're fucking adults I still love Prishe, she would entertain me wanting to talk about non-game shit from time to time and it was refreshing she's a sweet girl through it all. Or guy, she probably has a dick, whatever.
Sephiroth so far and away clearly prefers Kuja and CoD to Gilgamesh. He sees Gilg as paired with you, in his huge-ass spiel he sent to me earlier in the day about why I should side with him, he made himself out to be some sort of lone ranger and it was such bullshit. I put him on blast and said I knew he wouldn't put me above anyone on Chaos, and that if he would, then it would still make him shady as fuck anyway for just tossing out his allies to make sure he sticks around :rolleyes: I just can't with this.
I don't think Sephiroth wants to vote for you. He told me that if people liked you more than him (which they do ) that he wouldn't go after you, and it's true, it wouldn't make any sense. And since he's throwing out everything but the kitchen sink to Ulti and I...I guess he's voting for one of the others? I mean, if Sephiroth/Kuja/CoD are smart, they'll vote someone into the arena that hasn't been there yet to gamble with their odds at still sticking around intact. I wonder if Gilgamesh were to side with us and give up on Sephiroth (I doubt it but...maybe?), some sort of vote splitting to knock 2 of them into the arena is possible. It depends on what they have.
By the way, Sephiroth told me the items he has are a Decoy, a Protect Stud, and a Block Ring. Do you know what Gilgamesh has? I mean, I think on paper we'd have the votes to knock Sephiroth out despite his Protect Stud, but to be safe I wouldn't rule out voting for Kuja or CoD. What do you think?
(Kuja is a man, hun. A man that wears a thong. :tifa:)
Ultimecia does have more nullifying items than vote adding items, it's true I pack more of a punch with votes, but since people null shit left and right, shockingly one person casting 5 votes at this stage is not as helpful as one would think. Knowing from Gilgamesh who they want to vote for would be very helpful before we proceed.
I forget, are you a college student? Finals week is looming and I can't wait, I'm so ready for this semester to be over so I can go see my family. 
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Apr 21 2012, 10:15 AM
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This was an interesting read. I abhor you for not summarizing, but with so little going on the board now, I could spend 5 minutes skimming that.
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For easy reference, I put my PMs in blue, and Tifa's in pink.
If you ever do this again, please do.
I lack questions now, but is there any idea how items are lining up right now? How much will they matter on this vote?
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Apr 21 2012, 07:37 PM
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Um... this is a little summary that I've attempted to make, of how the votes might go down.
Kefka: 2 votes, Can nullify 2 Zidane: 7 votes, Can nullify 1 Gilgamesh: 3 votes Tifa: 5 votes, Can nullify 2 Ultimecia: 5 votes, Can nullify 2 (1 against herself) Terra: Can nullify 1 (3 more items) Total: 23 votes, Can nullify 8 (1 specifically against Ultimecia)
Kuja: 4 votes CoD: Can nullify 1 Sephiroth: Can nullify 3 (2 against himself) Shantotto: 4 votes, Can nullify 1 Total: 10 votes, Can nullify 5 (2 specifically against Sephiroth)
12 votes Sephiroth, 11 votes Kuja, 10 votes Terra
With nullifiers: 7 votes Sephiroth, 11 votes Kuja, 3 votes Terra
Obviously that's an incomplete/inaccurate list of items, but a lot of them are pretty accurate I think. I don't think I'm giving Kuja, CoD, or Sephi enough credit. But we'll see. Our plan is to split the vote between Sephiroth and Kuja, to try to make two of them go into the Arena instead of one of us versus one of them.
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Apr 21 2012, 07:58 PM
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- Zidane,Apr 21 2012
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Zidane: 7 votes, Can nullify 1
How do you plan on making this happen when you only have 3 slots?
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Apr 21 2012, 08:24 PM
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- Lightning,Apr 21 2012
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- Zidane,Apr 21 2012
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Zidane: 7 votes, Can nullify 1
How do you plan on making this happen when you only have 3 slots?
Oh, because I plan on giving the hyper ring and nullifier to someone that has open slots. So I still counted them in our total.
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