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robot scenaro realstic?
Topic Started: Apr 28 2006, 07:41 PM (1,568 Views)
Ian
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well, is the robot scenaro relstic?
couldent people controll artificial intelligence and some how program to not have no army experiance? i mean humans arent dumb enoguh to do so. right? artificial intelligence is very dangerous. im sure people would handle it with care. right?
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The military is already experimenting with robotic soldiers, so already some robots have "army" experiance, and in the future it is likely we will program robots to learn, so they may learn combat tactics when we don't even know it.
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Of course we could control them at first.
The problem comes in when a conscious computer awakens. If it realizes it's superiority, or it's ability to do better, it may take over.
Of course, if it's that smart, it shoul realize peace is a better option anyway.
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Or they could realize that humans are a pest upon the planet and eradicate us.
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Can't we "program" them so they respect us with all due (and more) respect.
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Not necessessarily. An advanced conscious intelegence could always find creative new ways around its programming. Therefore, it'd eventually be a meaningless gesture. Further, that may be something that sparks resentment from our mechanical brethren.

The best we can do is try and raise them to be positively disposed towards us. Even deeming us unimportant could be hazardous to us. In short, raise an AI as its consciousness emerges like one would raise a kid. OF course, that doesn't always go too well either.

(Well, that's my plan, at least.)
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Dr. Jim
Apr 28 2006, 11:13 PM
Of course, if it's that smart, it shoul realize peace is a better option anyway.

You are overestimating intelligence.
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With the constant advancements in AI we could soon see the product of a sentient AI. At first we developed Expert systems so it followed rules, but now as we try and create artificial life we begin to move away from a program of rules and onto one which could create its own code, to bypass original preset parameters. The biggest problem with a sentient AI is like all other sentient creatures they develop a survival instinct. At first it may accept being destroyed or shut down, but soon that code will become rewritten and it would want to survive by any means necessary.
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Meh, whatever. It's like an animal.
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Well, for our own benifit, it would be best not to threaten the AI's survival. Much like threatening anyone else's survival, it will result in a rather forceful backlash, i.e. the robot scenereo.

Let us treat our AI bretheren as equals (or as children at first). Consider it an investment in the future of our cultures :)
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I like the nanotech situation, but the robot situation was really created on children's TV.
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The one thing that bothers me is that it assumes robotics and A.I. development are 100% interlinked, when they're really two seperate fields.

Say you do have a sentient A.I.. That doesn't nececarily mean you have the means to mass produce robot bodies for it, nor is it certain that such a body would be effective for it's global domniation plans.

On the otherhand, it's possible that robotics could develop faster than A.I.. In this regard, I also feel the scenario from Ghost in the Shell is somewhat likely, with human brains implanted inside mechanical bodies, making a robotic uprising a reletively easier problem to handle, since they wouldn't haave the physical advantage.
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Well, Robotics are advanceing faster than AI research by a wide margin. This means there's a good chance that our AI offspring may we'll have robot bodies to be put in by the time we actually get around to programming them.

The physical advantage isn't the worrying part. It's the intelegence gap. An advanced AI would outthink its human counterparts at every turn. Ceterus peribus (sp? my latin is poor [All other things being equal, for those not familiar with the phrase]), they would be able to kick our backsides in.
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Ceterus peribus

ceteris paribus
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Thanks for the correction, unnamed one.
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