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"Aha" Moments; First time realizing something bout life
Topic Started: May 31 2006, 08:43 PM (1,323 Views)
Nekobe
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Not sure if this is the right category but it is sort of philosophical.

What learning experiences will you always remember? This can be anything from what you learned in school, family and friends, or from TV. Those little moments when you realize a truth about life for the very first time.

The first learning experience I can recall goes back to when I was about six years old. I remember being upset when Frosty melted in the greenhouse in that corny little cartoon that comes on every year around the holidays. Then Santa came to the rescue and restored Frosty, and told his little friend something along the lines of "Christmas snow sometimes goes away for almost a year at a time and takes the form of spring and summer rain. But when the December winds return, you can bet it will turn into Christmas snow all over again."

That was when I first realized that rain and snow are the same thing, only sometimes its frozen and sometimes its not. Since I was six, that little fact totally blew my mind. :D

And yeah.. I still sometimes watch Frosty reruns come December.
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When i got my Ass kickt in 7th grade
ye that made me think alot about life
pain hurts btw
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Well, I'd say my experience with an evil ex was a learning experience:

1) Don't let anyone drain your bank accounts.
2) Watch your pocketbook
3) Complain when she nails your friend and his wife, but tells you you can't join
4) If they sleep with everyone you know, there's something wrong
5) Slavish devotion is a bad thing
6) Cruising is fun
7) Dealing with psycho drunks isn't
8) Sex is vastly overrated

And numerous other lessons I'd rather not bring up. Let's just say it was a learning experience the same way falling off a cliff crotch first onro a barbed-wire fence is a learning experience.
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Death of those you love is always a good one. Then there is being picked on in elementary school for saying things like stars are round because the massive gravity pulls the mass inward, and that 'feet' (as in the unit of measurment) is constant; it doesn't vary between people's shoe-sizes.

Lets see.... a grandpaw who... well lets not get into all that. Hrm... drunk, druggie parents, one of whom is also a thief. And other various things. Yep; emotional scarring always teaches you something.
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Jun 8 2006, 09:30 AM
1) Don't let anyone drain your bank accounts.
2) Watch your pocketbook
3) Complain when she nails your friend and his wife, but tells you you can't join
4) If they sleep with everyone you know, there's something wrong
5) Slavish devotion is a bad thing
6) Cruising is fun
7) Dealing with psycho drunks isn't
8) Sex is vastly overrated

Tech, your experience with your ex sounds eerily similar to what my best friend went through. He met his ex online, she was in Florida and he was Washington state. After a few months of going gaga over her, he flew out to Florida, helped her pack, then drove her across country to the new home he had rented with her in Oregan. He rented an apartment nearby because she "wasn't ready to move in with him yet". However, she had been living with her ex-boyfriend in Florida (claiming they weren't doing anything and they were just roommates.. yeah, right). She even insisted that her ex move with her to her new place in Oregan.

Once they got settled on the other side of the country, she started pulling away from him. She spent something like, 16 hours a day playing World of Warcraft and would never return his phone calls. Finally, realizing he had been used just get her out of her sleezy place in Florida, he dumped her. But not before he had spent a lot of time and even more money on her sorry butt. For me, the whole situation was like watching my friend dancing with a vampire. No matter how much I tried to tell him she was going to rip his throat out and drain him dry, he just wouldn't see it. He was totally head over heels for her. I'm just glad he and you both got out of it before any kids came into the picture. Once a girl can tie you to a screaming bundle of "joy", your life is pretty much over.
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Man am I glad I learned about contraception first. . . If I'd had an ofspring with that psycho . . .

Incidentally, 1 year after my escape from her attempt to drain my very soul (I was basically a slave to her for . . . too long), she married some guy. Of course, that seems to be the pattern.

Lesson: Evil exes tend to get married after you escape them. Mine did, one of my best friends abusive ex did, probably numerous others.

What is it with those soul-destroying, abusive people and easily getting into relationships, while us nice people sit around single as 'just friends'? If anyone has a solid answer to that, I'd like to hear it. Some advice on how to fix it without becoming an abusive jerk would be nice, too.
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Jun 10 2006, 12:02 AM
What is it with those soul-destroying, abusive people and easily getting into relationships, while us nice people sit around single as 'just friends'? If anyone has a solid answer to that, I'd like to hear it.

It's to keep the bars in buisiness. That's my cynical take on it anyway.
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Jun 10 2006, 12:02 AM
What is it with those soul-destroying, abusive people and easily getting into relationships, while us nice people sit around single as 'just friends'? If anyone has a solid answer to that, I'd like to hear it. Some advice on how to fix it without becoming an abusive jerk would be nice, too.

Perhaps it is because of the feeling of safety of friendship. It's not as risky as a romantic relationship. Meh, anyways, I'd like an answer as well.
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Jun 10 2006, 05:19 PM
Perhaps it is because of the feeling of safety of friendship. It's not as risky as a romantic relationship. Meh, anyways, I'd like an answer as well.

Good point, Neo. I see all these commericals for match.com and other relationship websites, where the members say they met online via the site and found they talked so easily, they are best friends, etc, etc. I give those kinds of relationships 3 months, tops. While marrying your best friend may sound like a great idea I think you quickly find you're too much alike and grow bored with each other. What they say about opposites attracting is very true. I believe the key is finding someone who is different enough from you yet not so different to where there is no common ground.
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When I was eight, I had an existential epiphany. The sheer size of the universe, and the relative size of the earth and by extension myself, hit home all at once. I would become nauseous just looking up at the sky.

When I was sixteen, I read H. P. Lovecraft for the first time, and my personal philosophy crystallised.

Every so often, I get some kind of strange insight. Thinking about something, rolling some idea in my head, I'll feel suddenly aware. Always only flashes, though. Gone as fast as they come.
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Jun 10 2006, 10:15 PM
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Perhaps it is because of the feeling of safety of friendship. It's not as risky as a romantic relationship. Meh, anyways, I'd like an answer as well.

Good point, Neo. I see all these commericals for match.com and other relationship websites, where the members say they met online via the site and found they talked so easily, they are best friends, etc, etc. I give those kinds of relationships 3 months, tops. While marrying your best friend may sound like a great idea I think you quickly find you're too much alike and grow bored with each other. What they say about opposites attracting is very true. I believe the key is finding someone who is different enough from you yet not so different to where there is no common ground.

You might be taking it a bit far. Opposites attract sometimes, but common interests work as well. The way opposites attract is for both individuals to keep an open mind about the other's activities, however, too much difference will lead to little time together, making a gap in the relationship. Both individuals should take an interest into the other's activities, try some of them, and enjoy them if they can. Sure, I don't go bungee jumping, but if my girlfriend said it was fun, I'd try it once to see what it's like. If I like it, I go again, and we're bonding. If I don't, I won't go, but we can talk about it, laugh about the experience, grow.

Common interests, on the other hand, need to have a little time apart. It can both get annoying having someone ALWAYS there, and a little time apart always does good.

Basically, don't go to the extremes, find a middle ground, and enjoy your time together.

EDIT: Almost forgot. Friendship is actually quite a good base to start a relationship. There's already a degree of companionship, intimacy, and trust.

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Every so often, I get some kind of strange insight. Thinking about something, rolling some idea in my head, I'll feel suddenly aware. Always only flashes, though. Gone as fast as they come.


I get that sometimes as well. Can't remember anything, so I'm begining to carry a notepad to catch a fluttler of the idea.
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Friendship is actually quite a good base to start a relationship. There's already a degree of companionship, intimacy, and trust.

True enough, but what if you have a very, very good friend.. someone you tell everything to and you can always depend on. Then you try to "take it to the next level" but things don't work out. Chances are good that you not only had a failed attempt at a relationship, but you lost your best friend as well. There aren't many that can salvage a friendship once they've tried to turn it into something else.

It's like a nice, warm spot of sandy beach that you like to go to, something that you can always depend on being there when you need to get away from it all and look out over the ocean. You can take that sand and attempt to turn it into an intricate and very beautiful glass sculpture by applying enough heat and know-how. But if you fail, you're left with a hunk of glass that is rather ugly and not something you want to be around. Or worse yet, it shatters and really hurts you in the process. Either way, your beach is gone in the end.
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That's why you need a couple of things. One being maturity (Not you specifically, just in general. >.>;). Both indivuduals need a certain level of maturity to be in said relationship, and with that same maturity, they can either agree to not let awkwardness ruin the friendship if a break-up happens, or work out it later on if it does happen. See, because they're best friends, there is a really high likelihood that, if it does end, it'll end on good terms. Even on bad terms things can get back to normal. All it takes is a little work from both parties and some optimism.

I'll add some stuff if I remember it. Too much stock advice, too late at night. *Yawn*
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Digging up an old post but hey I like it.

One of my biggest "Aha!" moments was when I figured out feelings, not like the song, but like hot, and cold, etc.

When I realized they were just messages to my brain, like if I was getting a shot it was a warning system saying there is something sticking in my arm, I realized I could get this message and interpret it how I wanted, I could realize what the pain was, that it wasent warning me of anything significant(like a broken arm), and take it as just another sense of touch. A feather rubbed on my skin or a needle in my arm were the same thing, we just think about them differently.

This made me alot less of a wuss, I became kickass at schoolyard games like bloody knuckles, firecracker, and mercy, I also lost my fear of needles and used it in my adult life to donate blood and plasma on a regular basis.

So to resimplify:

Its a message: If you get a letter in the mail saying that if you send $10 back to them they will send you $100, you know its bs and ignore it.

If you get a shot in the arm and you feel like your arms on fire, you can look down, see that your arm is in fact not on fire, and ignore it.


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My favorite/most depressing moment was when I realized how much bullshit people give in social situations. It makes me sick sometimes on how fake some people are when they are around "cool" people. I pretty much gave up on humanity after that.

Jerry, that helped me a lot when training for football. GPP's suck.
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