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Eliminate Taxes for Middle/Lower Class
Topic Started: Jun 29 2006, 05:00 AM (1,030 Views)
Kett
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piercehawkeye45
Jul 2 2006, 07:43 PM
I think we should have the tax that graduatlly increases with income level, I forget what it is called. For example lower class gets taxed 23%, middle class 25%, and upper 27%. This will allow for the lower class to get some more spending money but not totally screw over the upper class.

I think we should have like a hollywood tax or something like that because those people make way to much money and spend it on the most pointless things. I'm almost positive they didn't work as hard for it as an entrupenuer who built an empire from the bottom up too.

if you buys music, watch movies, watch TV, or listen to the radio, you're helping fund them.
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Krispy
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You should be less worried with who is getting taxed how and more worried about where that money is going to.
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Krispy
Jul 3 2006, 01:58 AM
You should be less worried with who is getting taxed how and more worried about where that money is going to.

If you pay taxes, you're funding terrorism!

Wait...you kinda are o.0

depending on how you look at the Iraq war.

I wonder if I'd get arrested for writing that on all the money I get ~_~
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a law like that is what starts revolutions. All men must poay taxes, the SAME taxes. Richer people do pay more taxes than us anyway. The more money you make the more you pay.
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The rich should pay more. They make money at the expense of the labor class. What's the accepted CEO to laborer ratio? The laborer earns one dollar for ever four hundred something the CEO earns. I heard on NPR the other day that the ratio is one to over one thousand at Wal-Mart. And about Starbucks: The vast majority of independant/local coffee houses buy and sell only certified fair trade and organic coffee. And they do it without Starbucks' buisness plan of setting up shops virtually across the street of local coffee shops, selling their coffee cheaper and faster, thereby attracting coustomers away from the local shop and driving it out of buisness. After this happens over and over again in a particualr area, Starbucks has a corner on the market (pun) and can charge whatever they want.

Support local buisness and the working class. Sweat and blood hurt more than papercuts.
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If you don't like businesses that have "unfair" business policies don't trade with them. But don't punish successful people for being better than the average worker. If you don't like your pay, etc. go start your own business and try to be the next CEO of a Wal-mart.
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Irockwayhard
Jul 3 2006, 06:15 PM
The rich should pay more. They make money at the expense of the labor class. What's the accepted CEO to laborer ratio? The laborer earns one dollar for ever four hundred something the CEO earns. I heard on NPR the other day that the ratio is one to over one thousand at Wal-Mart. And about Starbucks: The vast majority of independant/local coffee houses buy and sell only certified fair trade and organic coffee. And they do it without Starbucks' buisness plan of setting up shops virtually across the street of local coffee shops, selling their coffee cheaper and faster, thereby attracting coustomers away from the local shop and driving it out of buisness. After this happens over and over again in a particualr area, Starbucks has a corner on the market (pun) and can charge whatever they want.

Support local buisness and the working class. Sweat and blood hurt more than papercuts.

Aside from different state taxes, I have never visited a Starbucks that charged different prices from another one.

The prices are actually controlled over an online cash register system.

Trust me, I work in one.
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I'd bet the online register system recognizes different regions and charges accordingly - that's how regional supply and demand works. I'd also bet that Starbucks costs less in the southwest and the west coast - nearer to Latin American and Pacific coffee fields. It's just like how you pay less for fish on the coast and more for anything on an island for example.

And hey, what ever happene to "liberty, egality, fraternity"?

Oh wait, that was the French Revolution.
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If you say so. All I ever see happen is people from Cali come in surprised we charge tax.
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On the CEO to Unskilled Laborer dollar ratio, this is a simple equation:

How many laborers are there per CEO? Given the low supply for CEOs and the high demand when such a position opens, it makes sence to pay them more, especially given that they require quite a bit of experience and education going in, whereas any dropout can do unskilled labor.

More importantly, how much does any given laborer contribute to the company? People keep talking about them as an agregate before pointing to low individual salaries. Each individual laborer controbutes very little to the company's profit margin. A CEO contributes greatly. What's the CEO of Wal-Mart's Salary in comparison to the combined salaries of all of the non-supervisor labor employed by that corporation?

To anyone that wants to punish the wealthy simply because they're wealthy, take an Econ class, and pay really close attention. Oh, and for your own good, put the Marx down. The dude was a loon. The only thing he really contributed to the field of Economics was the idea that there is an Economic interpretation of history.

To those that think it's unfair: Life isn't fair. I had to quit my last job (unskilled labor: Data Entry) because my boss was such a poor manager he couldn't balance his funds, meaning that his employees went for weeks without pay while he paid off former employees so they wouldn't bring the Dept. of Labor down on him (as he did the same to them). Is that fair that I and numerous others went without pay because he was a moron? And is that unfairness gonna stop me from trying to get into a management position, doing my darndest to work my way up to CEO of the Walt Disney Company? No.

For those willing to work their asses off and better themselves, it's still possible to climb that socio-economic ladder. That's what I'm doing. Give it a try.
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TJ, it's easier to whine about "unfairness" than it is to work to improve your lot in life. That's why the popular "solution" to this is the old Rush line: "The trees are now kept equal by hatchet, axe and saw."
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Jul 4 2006, 07:07 AM
TJ, it's easier to whine about "unfairness" than it is to work to improve your lot in life. That's why the popular "solution" to this is the old Rush line: "The trees are now kept equal by hatchet, axe and saw."

I've never heard of that saying before, where does it come from?
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Krispy
Jul 4 2006, 05:08 PM
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Jul 4 2006, 07:07 AM
TJ, it's easier to whine about "unfairness" than it is to work to improve your lot in life.  That's why the popular "solution" to this is the old Rush line: "The trees are now kept equal by hatchet, axe and saw."

I've never heard of that saying before, where does it come from?

Rush: The Trees

There is unrest in the forest,
There is trouble with the trees,
For the maples want more sunlight
And the oaks ignore their pleas.

The trouble with the maples,
(And they're quite convinced they're right)
They say the oaks are just too lofty
And they grab up all the light.
But the oaks can't help their feelings
If they like the way they're made.
And they wonder why the maples
Can't be happy in their shade.

There is trouble in the forest,
And the creatures all have fled,
As the maples scream "Oppression!"
And the oaks just shake their heads

So the maples formed a union
And demanded equal rights.
"The oaks are just too greedy;
We will make them give us light."
Now there's no more oak oppression,
For they passed a noble law,
And the trees are all kept equal
By hatchet, axe, and saw.
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Hopefully when the human race is nuked back to the stone age, everyone left will go back to bartering and theft.
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Jul 4 2006, 05:05 PM
Hopefully when the human race is nuked back to the stone age, everyone left will go back to bartering and theft.

that would suck. I like my long life-expectancy.
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