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Illegal Aliens; Is the U.S. the New New Mexico?
Topic Started: Jul 22 2006, 01:56 PM (244 Views)
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What are your views with illegal immigration? Do you think we should send them all back and build a fence across the border?
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But seriously, just take walmart to task for illegally hiring all those migrant workers, and you won't have a problem.
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We want immigration, and we want as much of it as possible. Just ask the statue of liberty, or 99% of the US population's grandparents.
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I'd prefer legal immigration, but let's make the process easier, eh?

1) Eliminate immigration limits. However many people want to move in, let them come. I'll risk the overcrowding (an exaggerated problem anyway, IMHO).

2) Require they either have a High School education or earn a GED if they're over 18.

3) Require an exhaustive background check

4) Require that they learn enough English to get by. (Hey, if I immigrated to Mexico, they'd expect me to speak Spanish, or if I even visit France they demand I speak French. Sounds fair to me that we require that they speak enough english to get by)

5) Require that they live in country for 1 year as a trial period. If they meet all other requirements and don't get in any real legal trouble, WELCOME TO THE UNITED STATES!

Sound fair?

Of course, we need to find some way to discourage illegal immigration. After all, I'd like to know that we know who's getting in the country. Better border protection on both borders would be a nice start. . .

Yes, I said both borders. No, this doesn't mean I have something against Canada. Yes, this means I believe someone seeking to, say, blow up a building, could slip across the Canadian border, and we should be watching for that.
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The big thing against illegal immigration is not the ovepopulation but the crime. Lets face it, if someone comes into America with nothing and they can't get a job and have to survive, what are they going to do? I used to have the statisics but a large percentage of crime comes from illegals.

Building a wall will do nothing but make us look even worse than we already look. Help Mexico and the Latin American countries to get off their feet intead of having American companies go over there, take their resources and pay the locals shit? American economic Imperialism is a big cause of this and unless we stop this it, illegal immigration will continue.
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Throw illegals into forced labor camps when they get caught. Just a month, escalating if they get caught again. At the very least get their fingerprints.

Build a wall like the great wall of China to keep those people out.

I don't care if they're nice when they're here. If I come home to find strangers cleaning my house and begging to stay because they're doing work I don't want to, I'm still kicking them the hell out. If they're not supposed to be here, then they shouldn't be here. Period.
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Once again pops up the fact that we have to treat them humanely which I think is bullshit.

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Build a wall like the great wall of China to keep those people out.

I just don't think that will work, building a wall of that size will cost so much money and make us look so bad. It would slow down illegal immigration but it will cause more and most likely bigger problems.

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I don't care if they're nice when they're here. If I come home to find strangers cleaning my house and begging to stay because they're doing work I don't want to, I'm still kicking them the hell out. If they're not supposed to be here, then they shouldn't be here. Period.

I agree with you here, I'm not going to feel sorry for them and that they should come here legally but you do have to remember where they came from and the amount of options they have. I won't make a big deal about it unless they come here to commit crimes or won't accept our culture (ex. speaking english). If illegals take the risk of coming here for a better life they better be ready to change to our lifestyle.


This is my rant, if we justify illegals by saying they take jobs that our "homeboys" won't take, WHY THE HELL ARE WE PAYING THE UNEMPLOYED TO DO NOTHING! Sorry, but that just bugs me. Our unemployment rate is just too high to justify a thing like that, it doesn't make sense.
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Jul 23 2006, 08:15 AM
Once again pops up the fact that we have to treat them humanely which I think is bullshit.

And then people have the nerve to dislike America and mistrust its calls for human rights! Fancy that....
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Sorry, I came off a lot harsher than I meant. Though forcing someone to do labor when they break a law is not inhumane and surely some people will argue it is inhumane.

A problem with illegal aliens is that if we catch them, we don't punish them at all. We do nothing to stop them. Putting them in jail doesn't help since we are paying to keep them there. If we make them do manual labor for a month like Kett suggested that could ease the problem. I don't think it would deter illegals from coming but we would at least get something out of it.

Like I said before I came off harsher than I wanted with that statement but I was getting at the point that if we don't punish them they will keep coming without any thought of consequence. I'm not against human rights, I'm all for it, I just think it is sometimes taken too far and doesn’t let us either punish someone who deserves it (I’m not talking just about illegals here) or slow down the illegal activity so people don't think they can get away with anything and not face consequences.
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Jul 22 2006, 04:35 PM
I'd prefer legal immigration, but let's make the process easier, eh?

1) Eliminate immigration limits. However many people want to move in, let them come. I'll risk the overcrowding (an exaggerated problem anyway, IMHO).

2) Require they either have a High School education or earn a GED if they're over 18.

3) Require an exhaustive background check

4) Require that they learn enough English to get by. (Hey, if I immigrated to Mexico, they'd expect me to speak Spanish, or if I even visit France they demand I speak French. Sounds fair to me that we require that they speak enough english to get by)

5) Require that they live in country for 1 year as a trial period. If they meet all other requirements and don't get in any real legal trouble, WELCOME TO THE UNITED STATES!

Sound fair?

Of course, we need to find some way to discourage illegal immigration. After all, I'd like to know that we know who's getting in the country. Better border protection on both borders would be a nice start. . .

Yes, I said both borders. No, this doesn't mean I have something against Canada. Yes, this means I believe someone seeking to, say, blow up a building, could slip across the Canadian border, and we should be watching for that.

I was going to say the same thing...EXACTLY the same thing.
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