Welcome Guest [Log In] [Register]
Welcome to Exit Mundi Forums. We hope you enjoy your visit.


You're currently viewing our forum as a guest. This means you are limited to certain areas of the board and there are some features you can't use. If you join our community, you'll be able to access member-only sections, and use many member-only features such as customizing your profile, sending personal messages, and voting in polls. Registration is simple, fast, and completely free.


Join our community!


If you're already a member please log in to your account to access all of our features:

Username:   Password:
Add Reply
Cloning; Right or Wrong?
Topic Started: Aug 8 2006, 11:45 PM (1,723 Views)
miller
Member Avatar
Planning World Domination
[ *  *  *  * ]
Yeah, that's true, Tom. I think I'm just thinking too much like Star Wars lol.
Offline Profile Quote Post Goto Top
 
NeoAegis
Member Avatar
Israel thug life
Admin
Muller
Aug 18 2006, 08:06 AM
When a clone assisinates the leader of the opposition do we praise the clone or the guy we made the clone of? Are the clones considered individual people even though they all have the same fingerprints and DNA?

That's the thing about making a clone army. It's basically making people to throw into meat grinders.
Posted Image Posted Image
Posted Image
Exit Mundi Post of the Year
Offline Profile Quote Post Goto Top
 
piercehawkeye45
Member Avatar
Franklin Pierce
[ *  *  *  *  *  *  *  *  *  *  *  * ]
Just like WWI.
Dropped the atomic bomb let them know that it's real
Speak soft with a big stick do what I say or be killed
I'm America!

I have found the enemy and he is us.
Offline Profile Quote Post Goto Top
 
justinianthelast
Disgraced Dictator
[ *  *  * ]
miller
Aug 18 2006, 02:17 PM
Yeah, that's true, Tom. I think I'm just thinking too much like Star Wars lol.

Well normal people haveschool non controlled interactions. Clones wouldn't. If you lived ina box and was taught how to fire a gun and obay orders maybe teachgod very seriously and if you refalt. Man is above ape because we use our mind,and tools.

So if we don't use it it is almost like a primitive mind.
conformist faciest racest nazi cheerleader
Offline Profile Quote Post Goto Top
 
Tom Joad
Member Avatar
Gap tooth so my dick's got to fit.
[ *  *  *  *  *  *  *  *  *  *  *  * ]
justinianthelast
Aug 20 2006, 10:10 AM
miller
Aug 18 2006, 02:17 PM
Yeah, that's true, Tom. I think I'm just thinking too much like Star Wars lol.

Well normal people haveschool non controlled interactions. Clones wouldn't. If you lived ina box and was taught how to fire a gun and obay orders maybe teachgod very seriously and if you refalt. Man is above ape because we use our mind,and tools.

So if we don't use it it is almost like a primitive mind.

We are put in boxes and taught to obey! That is what I'm trying to say. All your life you've been socialized to be a shoe salesman or restaurant manager or whatever. Clones would be just like people, no different.
Posted Image
Offline Profile Quote Post Goto Top
 
piercehawkeye45
Member Avatar
Franklin Pierce
[ *  *  *  *  *  *  *  *  *  *  *  * ]
No Joad, Justinian is right. Have you ever heard about the Spartans? If we had clone armies they would be trained just like the Spartans were, military is life and nothing else. If the Spartan soldiers were sent to another country where they had a normal society, some would go insane because that society was so much different and went against everything they were taught. Yes, High School can be compared to being in a box but everyone is in the box so everyone has the same experiences. A clone would not be able to function in normal society.
Dropped the atomic bomb let them know that it's real
Speak soft with a big stick do what I say or be killed
I'm America!

I have found the enemy and he is us.
Offline Profile Quote Post Goto Top
 
Kleptonis
Member Avatar
Disgraced Dictator
[ *  *  * ]
Problems with Clone Armies:
1. Is it ethical to breed humans for the sole purpose of being shot at?
2. What happens when we make too many? Imagine the devastation when 10 million clones march to do war with another 10 million. Whatever continent they'd be on would be worth considerably less after it's torn up from war.
3. How do we feed them all when we're having trouble keeping the planet fed?
4. Who needs large armies when you can place a nuke on a spider's eye?
5. Robot armies are so much cooler, and don't usually revolt.

As far as cloning in general goes, I'm fine with it, but I don't see many uses for it. We can grow organs on our own, we're already overpopulated, and clones don't retain the memories of their DNA donor. There goes the plans for organ harvesting, repopulation, and reviving dead relatives. I suppose you could clone yourself many times and continually reteach each clone to act like you, but that has two problems. First, why bother when you can just write down your thoughts and sell them in books. Second, there's no guarantee that they'll be like you (in fact, it's almost certain that they'll be different, since they don't necessarily think the way you do). Sure Clone 176 was almost finished with the novel you've always dreamed of. What if 177 decides it's trash and throws it out?

So in conclusion, cloning isn't worth much for us, unless we want to waste time and resources training them to kill other clones, and in that case, why bother when we can be dealing with robots?
Offline Profile Quote Post Goto Top
 
Tom Joad
Member Avatar
Gap tooth so my dick's got to fit.
[ *  *  *  *  *  *  *  *  *  *  *  * ]
Yeah robots ARE way cooler.
Posted Image
Offline Profile Quote Post Goto Top
 
miller
Member Avatar
Planning World Domination
[ *  *  *  * ]
Agreed.
Offline Profile Quote Post Goto Top
 
Flamingo
Member Avatar
Penis goes in here
[ *  *  *  *  *  *  *  *  *  *  *  * ]
Robots rock, until they go all "Terminator" on us.
Posted Image
Offline Profile Quote Post Goto Top
 
miller
Member Avatar
Planning World Domination
[ *  *  *  * ]
Yeah, I can only handle so much Arnold.
Offline Profile Quote Post Goto Top
 
Magical Gelatin
Member Avatar
El Presidente
Admin
And what happens when Arnold's down? We have to defend ourselves! :o
Posted Image

Flamingo
 
Go ahead and the tell about the mutilation of your pinky. We have until the end of the world to hear it.
Offline Profile Quote Post Goto Top
 
Powdereddonut
Crazy Doctor's Apprentice
[ *  * ]
if they r able to make bodies (like bodies no head/brain/whatever) So we can take whatever we need from them without worring about hurting or killing a living human being. Because without a head/brain, you rnt living.
Offline Profile Quote Post Goto Top
 
Kleptonis
Member Avatar
Disgraced Dictator
[ *  *  * ]
They're already onto cloning individual organs, which seems more efficient than cloning the whole body.

And they're making artificial body parts. Yet another facet of science where clones and robots are duking it out.
Offline Profile Quote Post Goto Top
 
Muller
Member Avatar
Planning World Domination
[ *  *  *  * ]
With all the technology on the battlefield today aren't we already using robot armies?
Religion is regarded by the common people as true, by the wise as false, and by the rulers as useful.
-Seneca the Younger
Offline Profile Quote Post Goto Top
 
1 user reading this topic (1 Guest and 0 Anonymous)
ZetaBoards - Free Forum Hosting
Create a free forum in seconds.
Go to Next Page
« Previous Topic · Technology · Next Topic »
Add Reply

Theme Made by Sionthede of the IFSZ.