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Terrorist attack busted; Go Britian!
Topic Started: Aug 10 2006, 03:53 PM (686 Views)
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The British just arrested 21 people planning to attack planes heading for the US. Was this Al Quieda or another group? How big is this? Will this affect aviation for next couple months? Explain

Here is the story. Hopefully this gets rid of the "US plotted 9/11" bullshit.
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I guess the number of people caught was raised to twenty-four now and that 5 men are still missing. The British officials were aware of this plot against the U.S. for aroudn 2 weeks and had been monitoring those involved, and still there are suspects not cought yet.

I also found it slightly amusing how Bush said that we are still not safe, and it is foolish to think otherwise. Yet his officials are telling us that it is safe to fly and to just be patient with problems one might encounter at an airport. Ri-god-damn-diculous if you ask me.

I think that since now we're getting dragged into the fight in the Middle-East, this is perfect opportunity for a strike against us, while we are vulnerable. It doesn't matter how high they raise the terrorist level, we still are at risk.
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piercehawkeye45
Aug 10 2006, 03:53 PM
The British just arrested 21 people planning to attack planes heading for the US. Was this Al Quieda or another group? How big is this? Will this affect aviation for next couple months? Explain

Here is the story. Hopefully this gets rid of the "US plotted 9/11" bullshit.

Damn those terrorist bastards to hell.
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Here is the story. Hopefully this gets rid of the "US plotted 9/11" bullshit.



I find it amusing this happens when Brits are getting mighty testy with Blair. And no, it doesn't stop the 9/11 "bullshit" as you say.
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I always get that creepy feeling when a large government body busts a bunch of people for being terrorists. Especially seeing as everyone is entirely unable to find out if those people really were doing anything illigal.
I'm not saying they were framed or anything, I know nothing about the incident, but it's always fishy when that happens out of the blue. It wouldn't be the first giant system that arrested a bunch of people by calling them a witch. I mean Jew. I mean communist. I mean terrorist.
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Aug 11 2006, 01:22 AM
I find it amusing this happens when Brits are getting mighty testy with Blair. And no, it doesn't stop the 9/11 "bullshit" as you say.

We aren't at all patriotic towards our government in Britain like in the USA. I don't think I'm too grateful to Tony himself for these attacks being stopped, because it was the work of many different governement departments, along with the police, and Mr Blair has no direct control over any of these.
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Yeah, first thing I heard when that story broke is that I'm being lied to. Maybe it is just because in the cozy Midwest terrorism doesn't really apply to me. Maybe 1984 is just creeping me out.
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Who knows that it isn't just sensationalist journalism that is making this seem a lot bigger than it is.
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Aug 13 2006, 05:21 PM
Who knows that it isn't just sensationalist journalism that is making this seem a lot bigger than it is.

Yeah, that's a given, but do we discredit the catch then? Coming from the current US admin, (that's right, the one that brought us the capture of the potentially world-altering terrorsits plotting to talk about coming up with an idea to think about planning an attack on the Sears Tower a couple of months ago.), I wouldn't have taking this so seriously. But coming from Britain, I want to trust it a little more. Am I wrong?

Also, my girlfriend flew out of Heathrow on a United flight (Transatlantic partners with British Airways) bound for DC on Monday afternoon - no joke - missed all that mess by a few hours. Regardless of how legit this busted conspiracy is, having someone you love come that close to anything near that kind of danger will give you a different, more human perspective about terrorism. I don't think I can take the whole it can't happen to me" defense now.
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Why is it fishy when it comes out of the blue?
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The timing is very convenient for Blair and Bush. Both are embattled over an increasingly-obvious failed "War on Terror". (How the fucking Hell do you fight an emotion? What's next? A War on Ennui?) Both are facing major political problems (Bush with his mid-term elections and Blair with a cabinet revolt barely under control). Both need a credible threat to prop up their tired old line of "Terrorists! Blah blah terror blah blah blah give us money blah blah blah no more civil rights blah blah blah! Terrorists!"

So I'm very suspicious of this purported attack, personally, and will be watching the court proceedings with interest. Assuming there ever are any.
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When ever since 2003 the war on terror seems to be failing, Blair lurches from one crisis to crisis and Bush fucks up so often it was bound to land at some important time or some time that would bury the never ceasing flow of bad news- Never attribute maliciousness to what can be blamed on good old incompetence.
"The War on Terror" is just a catchy title like the "War on Crime" or the "War on Drugs" don't take it literally for gods sake, the war is against terrorists, thier sponsors and networks not against the emotion itself just like the "War on Drugs" isn't against the drugs themselves its against the dealers, the lines of supply etc
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And now the amount of time British law allows the police to hold a suspect without charging him or her is running out - and as of today they haven't charged them...hmm...
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I doubt very much if there was really a credible threat. Blair pulls these things out when it suits him and his cabinate. Remember a few elections ago when he said there were "credible threats" of people with rocket launchers loitering around Heathrow to shoot down planes? Next thing we know there were tanks on the streets of London and mass hysteria in the media.
I think this is all spin, something concocted to remind people that Blair is working for the greater good.
But hey, I might be wrong. Fair play to them if it's real.
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Right... I'm up for a War on Amusement tomorrow, then we can have a War On Righteous Indignation next week, and we'll finish off with a War On Nostalgia after that. Anyone with me?

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And now the amount of time British law allows the police to hold a suspect without charging him or her is running out - and as of today they haven't charged them...hmm...

The police can apply for an extention of seven days (and have done so), if they can prove to a District Judge that they need it to gather more evidence, or to prevent evidence being tampered with (e.g. by suspects colluding to lie). After 28 days, they have to charge or release the suspects, except in the case of Foreign Nationals detained under the Terrorism Act (which will affect 3 or 4 of the people), who can be held indefinitely without trial, if it can be proven to High Court Judges that they pose a serious threat.

They've already let one of the 24 go, and the Home Office indicated that it likely some others will be released soon, as they are no longer suspects.
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