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Animal Rights
Topic Started: Oct 30 2006, 03:19 AM (2,849 Views)
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Animal rights are a thorny subject with me. While, generally speaking, I'm of the opinion 'live and let live', I do make note of the fact that I require meat in my diet, I do not wish to catch various infections, and I would rather not share my food with insects.

Recent debate where I'm staying was over the mice. They wanted them exterminated along with any insects that may be in the area. I opposed this openly, and still do. They own the house, I simply pay rent for this room in it, so naturally they called an exterminator.

They're still cleaning glue off the floor from when one of their dogs got onto a glue trap. I mourn for the needlessly exterminated rodents. The dog simply got what was coming to it for messing with sticky things. (Yes, the dog is perfectly fine)
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While animal rights should not be above that of humans, animals should not be needlessly killed for sport or sadism.

Though I'm not sure how redundant that is.
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Oct 30 2006, 12:28 PM
There is a line though, from killing for necessity and killing for fun AKA 'sport'. You wanna kill for food or if you're in danger? Sure. But just for the hell of it? Absolutly not. You also have to consider the way it's done.

Here ya go: http://www.strasbourgcurieux.com/fourrure/ Watch the whole thing

I wasn't able to watch it all the way hrough, was anyone?
People hunt but only enough to thin out the population (and because it is enjoyable to certain people to kill animals, at least it is painless). We raise cattle but only to eat (again painless). When we get to killing animals so you can posess a coat made out of their skin, that is needless (with leather being the exception because we eat the cows anyway). Even if it is a painless death it is a waste of life. Though we are the dominate species on earth is it right to say we have more right to, if I am not mistaken a verry furry dog's, skin just because we want it?
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But as said, killing Humans for meats and skins is kind of taboo.
However I for one could really go for some Chinese right about now.

Solent Green anyone?

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Though we are the dominate species on earth is it right to say we have more right to, if I am not mistaken a verry furry dog's, skin just because we want it?

I would wear a dog coat if the dogs were put down for other reasons, I'm pretty sure I wouldn't be popular after that though.
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Oct 31 2006, 01:58 AM
I wasn't able to watch it all the way hrough, was anyone?

I did, up until they started skinning another. Also I'm not sure if anyone else watched it.

As for thinning out the population: Theres always relocation of a certain number of a certain species.
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You cannot survive on a diet of Human flesh for a long period of time. While you can certainly indulge every now and then, and you can survive for a week or two lost out at sea, you cannot make it a regualr part of your diet.
You actually cannot make pork a very regular part of your diet for the same reason:

The protien structure is too similar to our own (in the case of pork, identical in the case of ourselves), and so after time the body begins to reject those protiens and will not use them to create energy.
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So cannibalism should only be used for special occasions? Got ya. ;)
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Oct 31 2006, 01:12 AM
Animal rights are a thorny subject with me. While, generally speaking, I'm of the opinion 'live and let live', I do make note of the fact that I require meat in my diet, I do not wish to catch various infections, and I would rather not share my food with insects.

Recent debate where I'm staying was over the mice. They wanted them exterminated along with any insects that may be in the area. I opposed this openly, and still do. They own the house, I simply pay rent for this room in it, so naturally they called an exterminator.

They're still cleaning glue off the floor from when one of their dogs got onto a glue trap. I mourn for the needlessly exterminated rodents. The dog simply got what was coming to it for messing with sticky things. (Yes, the dog is perfectly fine)

Rescue Rangers anyone?

I am OK with hunting for sport because I do it, I generally eat said animal, and hurt in a humane way.
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My school has an animal rights club, and they have signs everywhere with a cartoon frog that says "Don't cut me up, cut out dissection!". Dissection is essential to any biology class.
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Go ahead and the tell about the mutilation of your pinky. We have until the end of the world to hear it.
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Oct 31 2006, 11:03 PM
Dissection is essential to any biology class.

Essential? Certainly not. If anything it distracts students. And we have papers with labels and drawings of the insides; so whats the point, really?

And yes, no one watched the fourrure thing. Ah well. *shall no longer mention it*
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Oct 31 2006, 06:30 PM
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Oct 31 2006, 11:03 PM
Dissection is essential to any biology class.

Essential? Certainly not. If anything it distracts students. And we have papers with labels and drawings of the insides; so whats the point, really?

And yes, no one watched the fourrure thing. Ah well. *shall no longer mention it*

Disecting a rat was one of the coolest things I did in middle school.
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Oct 31 2006, 11:30 PM
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Dissection is essential to any biology class.

Essential? Certainly not. If anything it distracts students. And we have papers with labels and drawings of the insides; so whats the point, really?

And yes, no one watched the fourrure thing. Ah well. *shall no longer mention it*

Essential if you want to learn anyway. What is better than first hand experience?
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Nov 1 2006, 01:29 AM
Essential if you want to learn anyway. What is better than first hand experience?

The only career paths where opening up a frog even MIGHT be essential is vetenary, andthere are special schools for that.
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Oct 31 2006, 06:43 PM
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Oct 31 2006, 06:30 PM
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Oct 31 2006, 11:03 PM
Dissection is essential to any biology class.

Essential? Certainly not. If anything it distracts students. And we have papers with labels and drawings of the insides; so whats the point, really?

And yes, no one watched the fourrure thing. Ah well. *shall no longer mention it*

Disecting a rat was one of the coolest things I did in middle school.

You got to do that? I'm in 8th grade, and so far I disected nothing. I heard in high school you get to disect squids though.
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I got ripped off. All I got was a crayfish and a frog. However, I hear you dissect cats in Anatomy class, something I'm not crazy about.
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