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| Personallity; Are we really alive? | |
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| Tweet Topic Started: Jan 13 2007, 09:31 PM (1,442 Views) | |
| That guy on the forum | Jan 15 2007, 05:11 PM Post #31 |
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But it's the events in your life that makes your personallity, and it's your personallity that makes your choices. |
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| DirkNL | Jan 15 2007, 05:15 PM Post #32 |
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Not really. It's more like rolling a dice, actually. For example, a twin leading completely the same life could easily have different personalities. And vice versa - two unrelated people having two completely different lives can still have roughly the same personality. -Dirk |
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| That guy on the forum | Jan 15 2007, 05:34 PM Post #33 |
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But that's because of genes and the nature of twins. Twins strive to be different self consciously, so they might have completly different personallities. Plus, if life was like a rolling dice, why are so many people like their parents? Or like their friends, or act the same when givin the same events. |
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| DirkNL | Jan 15 2007, 06:56 PM Post #34 |
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I admit, I was a bit unclear at that. Of course, things are also influenced by external impulses. -Dirk |
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| That guy on the forum | Jan 15 2007, 07:09 PM Post #35 |
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Good point, some impulses are "random". But then again, even impulses are from personallity and genes (mostly genes). |
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| Katastrof | Jan 15 2007, 08:19 PM Post #36 |
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If you want to argue that, then all genes are made up of atoms. Those genes are made up of protiens, those of molecules, those of atoms, those of electrons,protons,neutrons, those are made up of up and down (and strange but they're really rare) quarks. Quarks are if you don't know, are explained by Quantum Mechanics. (which if you read earlier, it is a theory based on randomness). So the genes that you use to explain determinism really aren't pre determined themselves... Another thing personality is not a product of just nature. Sure we can get some basic traits of our personality from our genes, but it is nurture that shapes our personaility. Also an impulses have nothing to do with your personality (since personality is what we expect a person to do in a situation). |
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| That guy on the forum | Jan 15 2007, 11:20 PM Post #37 |
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I said that in my first post. And most of the other ones in this thread. I belive in QM, but once the quarks turn into complete matter, they are less random. If our personallities were random, we would act differently every day. |
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| piercehawkeye45 | Jan 15 2007, 11:34 PM Post #38 |
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We don't know if QM is random or not. Until we understand them more, we may never fully understand them, then we will never know. |
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Dropped the atomic bomb let them know that it's real Speak soft with a big stick do what I say or be killed I'm America! I have found the enemy and he is us. | |
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| Zer0 | Jan 16 2007, 12:13 AM Post #39 |
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LOEV 2 KONSOLE
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Essentially every human strives to have a Testarossa. |
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| 严加华 | Jan 16 2007, 12:28 AM Post #40 |
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Magister Ludicrous
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This is gibberish, philisophically speaking. The technical term is "begging the question". The issue is not "free will vs. determinism" the issue is "free will as a concept just doesn't make any sense whatsoever". |
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| DirkNL | Jan 16 2007, 03:33 PM Post #41 |
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I don't strive to have a Testosterossa... -Dirk |
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| Dr. Jim | Jan 16 2007, 04:58 PM Post #42 |
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Nihil estis, Omnes sum
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You've realized at the age of twelve that nearly all people never manage to understand. You're entirely right. We are nothing more than the product of our minds, which are nothing more than the product of protiens and chemicals, which are nothing more than the product of chemical and physical reactions, which are nothing more than the product of chemistry and physics, both of which follow simple rules and can be predicted. In reality, us, the planet, everything, is just one long chemical reaction taking place on a universal scale. |
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...Matt was no exception to this. When he stood in the street and noticed his chest started to really hurt again, he made the decision to look down. He screamed like a grown man would scream when that grown man sees a laser burning his chest, and that is like a little girl... -From Super Naked Moose Man | |
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| Katastrof | Jan 16 2007, 08:54 PM Post #43 |
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You're just saying that because he agreed with you... I understand your point I just don't agree with it... |
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| Mister Sinister | Jan 16 2007, 11:23 PM Post #44 |
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Delusional Granduerist
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Me either, but mainly because I'm not Eurotrash...I want a McLaren F1, mainly because I'm white trash. |
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| That guy on the forum | Jan 16 2007, 11:33 PM Post #45 |
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Holy friggen crap this place is awesome. So many people here actually understand what I'm saying! My friends never do.... |
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