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Is there good and evil
No 9 (42.9%)
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Good vs Evil; The ultimete fight?
Topic Started: Jan 17 2007, 03:16 PM (1,946 Views)
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I don't really have time to type this, so I'll probable edit thsi later. But for now let me just ask if you guys believe there really is an imorraly wrong and right, or if it is all just an opinion. I personally don't belive in Good or Evil, but I think it is all just an idea. I'll explain in 6 hours, but for now I need to go to school. Sorry for the short post, just wanted to sya one last thing before I left.
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There are no universal ethics.

Give me 20 newborns, an isolated island with all needed living enviorments and I can raise them to believe anything is good. Society creates norms and morals so people can live together. If you look at history you can basically find a society that practiced at least one of the "evils" we have in the world
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piercehawkeye45
Jan 17 2007, 05:27 PM
There are no universal ethics.

Give me 20 newborns, an isolated island with all needed living enviorments and I can raise them to believe anything is good. Society creates norms and morals so people can live together. If you look at history you can basically find a society that practiced at least one of the "evils" we have in the world

Society today practices "evils" that we claim are evil. I gusse the only way to determine if something is good or bad is to look in the contex of the action itself. According to Hitler and the Nazi Party, slaughtering Jews was not only just good, but justifiable. Of course, society sees the slaughtering of anyone as an evil act and rightfully so. Society itself is what makes "good" or "evil" if an act is done in the favor of society then it's good if it's done to hurt society or an individual of society then it's evil. So we ourselfs are what makes up both good and evil.
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Seeing as good and evil are both subjective. You would have to discuss what is inherently good and inherently evil before you could analyze properly.
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Well, considering my post in my thread is short, let me say my point. I don't think there is wrong. Like most of the people here, I agree that there is no Good or Evil. Even killing people isn't wrong if the person is insane or grew up to belive killing is right. I myself won't kill (unless I need to) and I think it is not good to kill. But I don't think things can be wrong if our ideas of good and evil are just built up from our emotions. When you do something bad (or the idea of what is bad), you get a certain feeling. Some people may like this feeling, while others call it evil. So, it depends on what feelings you like or not, so saying something is evil is like saying the taste of Apple pie is evil, whne in reality the taste of Apple pie us a matter of opinion.
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You got it.
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Speak soft with a big stick do what I say or be killed
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piercehawkeye45
Jan 18 2007, 03:44 AM
You got it.

Ah, I thought some debat would come up. Me being right is way to boring...
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Politics and Religion forum is the one with the more heated debates right now.
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Jan 18 2007, 04:51 AM
Politics and Religion forum is the one with the more heated debates right now.

Right. If the topic had included God or the Bible or even Dubya's moralistic codes, there may have been a good debate which happened here. Seriously.
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Jan 18 2007, 06:57 PM
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Jan 18 2007, 04:51 AM
Politics and Religion forum is the one with the more heated debates right now.

Right. If the topic had included God or the Bible or even Dubya's moralistic codes, there may have been a good debate which happened here. Seriously.

i will try to help you... God is good and Bush is evil.
If I was serious that would have caused a huge reaction...
anyway, so do you believe in God and Bush or is this debatable?
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agafaba
Jan 18 2007, 08:51 PM
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Jan 18 2007, 06:57 PM
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Jan 18 2007, 04:51 AM
Politics and Religion forum is the one with the more heated debates right now.

Right. If the topic had included God or the Bible or even Dubya's moralistic codes, there may have been a good debate which happened here. Seriously.

i will try to help you... God is good and Bush is evil.
If I was serious that would have caused a huge reaction...
anyway, so do you believe in God and Bush or is this debatable?

Never said I didn't believe in God, just the Christian zealot's description of what he is and how he would act. No, I don't believe in Bush, I think he's a disgrace to everyone who is a citizen, or even an illeagle alien to the United States of America.
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The universe exists to serve man because man is the only force in the universe that wants to use it or cares, therefor there is nothing but the will of man. Because of this anything contrary to the will of man is evil. Because there are many people who make up man we must make sure that all parts of man are happy and any act contrary to the happiness of all man is evil.
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Jan 20 2007, 03:35 AM
The universe exists to serve man because man is the only force in the universe that wants to use it or cares, therefor there is nothing but the will of man. Because of this anything contrary to the will of man is evil. Because there are many people who make up man we must make sure that all parts of man are happy and any act contrary to the happiness of all man is evil.

no that's horribly flawed. Humans are merely a piece of the puzzle.

btw, why am I a Styx ferryman ? I don't even like styx that much, nor greek mythology .
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There are no aliens in the immediate area (one may assume), there are only lower lifeforms with less intelegence (thus making them inferior to us, we are the ultimate result of evolution) therefor the world and universe exist to serve us because WE ARE THE ONLY ONES WHO CARE ABOUT IT!!! If there is any other puzzle pieces lying around show them to me.
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