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Things not looking too good for Iranian president
Topic Started: Jan 18 2007, 05:31 AM (3,698 Views)
Katastrof
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Feb 10 2007, 05:16 PM
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Feb 10 2007, 06:11 PM
Remember when this thread was about the Iranian President? Heh.

It's the usual stuff. Make a thread, wait till it's about 5 pages long and it will be totally derailed and consisting of at least one agrument (usually against Falcon).

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if i were him i wouldn't worry, his country is the most poweful of the middle east and he could beat back any invasion that people could throw at him, the only countries that could beat him are countries with strong and readily available armies and the only one that suits that criteria is saudi arabia, they could beat him but they have no reason to.

America and all the other members of nato have armies that are being used elsewhere, Germany has most of its troops in eastern europe, france, britain and America have their armies spread out all over the world and italy could never get its people to support such a war, nor could it get justification.

i think he will be o.k , he will lose a few troops and maybe he might get a little trouble but her shoudn't worry,

(what i just said only applies if he is a good li'l president and he increases the size and funding of his army.)
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Brutus
Feb 13 2007, 08:07 PM
if i were him i wouldn't worry, his country is the most poweful of the middle east and he could beat back any invasion that people could throw at him, the only countries that could beat him are countries with strong and readily available armies and the only one that suits that criteria is saudi arabia, they could beat him but they have no reason to.

America and all the other members of nato have armies that are being used elsewhere, Germany has most of its troops in eastern europe, france, britain and America have their armies spread out all over the world and italy could never get its people to support such a war, nor could it get justification.

i think he will be o.k , he will lose a few troops and maybe he might get a little trouble but her shoudn't worry,

(what i just said only applies if he is a good li'l president and he increases the size and funding of his army.)

Not to mention the many cabals militia groups that control large parts of some Middle Eastern countries that would support him to the end...Hezbollah for one.
Also, if that were to happen, he could make it way worse for the U.S in Iraq.
Saudi Arabia wont risk having mass movements that could very quickly get violent within there country like they did when they supported the war against Saddam. Also if Saudi Arabia doesn’t get logical support from other major powers and most likely some military support, they will most likely be over run. Saddam could have over run Saudi Arabia, that’s why they brought U.S troops in, so that if Saddam attacked, it would be he is also attacking America by proxy and they would have a case to attack him. But as we all know America, they did so anyways but for that, they are losing an average of 2 troops every day.

So all in all, Saudi Arabia dose not have the military power to win in an assault on Iran. Also one more thing to consider is that, the grand Ayatollah who is based in Iran (supreme religious leader) Supports Iran’s prim Minster and the Iranian people (mostly Shia) and almost all Shia people are deeply loyal to him (because they see him as the highest spiritual guider of shia Islam) will take to the streets to support there leader. Therefore, it will not be a situation like Iraq where it's most of the people and the U.S/U.K against the Saddam government and his personal army but a situation where it' would be the U.S against the Iranian government, the army the militias and the PEOPLE(not to mention millions of shia followers powering into Iran to attack the U.S and then eventually, will come some of the major Sunni organizations because they see this as a chance to attack the U.S and would make a alliance of convenience with the shia therefore uniting shia and Sunni and once this is, it could start a whole lot more collaborations between the 2 instead of competition to attack U.S targets and that would furthermore somewhat unit the shia and Sunni people of the middle east and that would most likely start a whole new era of collaborating between the 2 instead of them competing while U.S interests would always stay on top) and that could set off a whole world of political problems for the U.S

Example: If Iran and Saudi Arabia worked tougher even without Venezuela, they could drive up the price of oil to the point where the western countries would nearly crash and there economies would reach record highs, and with Venezuela, they could basically create the apocalypse for the west.
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Iran would not let American troops occupy their territory. It would be suicidal to go in there. Operation Ajax, Islamic revolution, not handing over the Shah in the US embassy kidnapping, support of Iraq in the Iraqi-Iranian war, and putting Iran in the Axis Of Evil, I wouldn't be too happy with America either.
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i think iran is just going to be bullyed a bit then all will be well.
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Iran just needs time for reform and liberalise, it'll be more like Turkey soon.
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Feb 20 2007, 12:10 AM
Iran just needs time for reform and liberalise, it'll be more like Turkey soon.

Now that is a nasty indictment!
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i have been to Turkey and through an unfortunate series of events, i will be arrested if i go back , now lemme tell ya, being sued isn't very fun.
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Well Turkeys the most "Westen" major Muslim nation, at least they are more free and aren't run by nutters building nukes.
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Feb 2 2007, 08:02 PM
You think we invaded Iraq because of oil being sold in Euro's?  Sorry to burst your bubble, but our president could give a half rats ass less about "euros" period.

you do undertsnad that Americas entire superpowerhood relies on oil being sold in dollars dont you?


and yeah comrade jim, they are very western, they joined Nato and now they will join the EU.

their is a warrent for my arrest in turkey though and i am a bit worried that that warrent will apply in britain also when they join the EU. when i was their i destroyed a £3000 jet ski and the guy said he would have me arrested if i didn't pay him by thursday and i left on the plane home on the wednesday.
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Brutus
Feb 20 2007, 07:05 PM
their is a warrent for my arrest in turkey though and i am a bit worried that that warrent will apply in britain also when they join the EU. when i was their i destroyed a £3000 jet ski and the guy said he would have me arrested if i didn't pay him by thursday and i left on the plane home on the wednesday.

And because of that we aren't good guys?

Ok. Let me destroy someon's property and run like hell, see if they are suddenly a bad country.

Tsk, tsk. Iran MUST be like us. At least little girls wouldn't be hanged for even an accusement of adultery. Her family would kill her and get away with it.

Wait. This isn't good either. :ph43r: * ninja style runs away *

At least we have more freedom than them.
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America faces a better chance being destroyed economicaly by China than by the EU....
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Feb 20 2007, 08:49 PM
America faces a better chance being destroyed economicaly by China than by the EU....

That's what everyone said about Japan 20 years ago.

Economic success by someone else doesn't mean economic harm for us, but the opposite most likely.
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Feb 21 2007, 01:35 AM
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Feb 20 2007, 08:49 PM
America faces a better chance being destroyed economicaly by China than by the EU....

That's what everyone said about Japan 20 years ago.

Economic success by someone else doesn't mean economic harm for us, but the opposite most likely.

But when your people work for 20cents an hour, and all componies outsourcing jobs to those low cost labour countries (and yes china is one of them). The western world is dommed but most likely Amarica would go frist due to the fact that there involved in to many things that they dont need to be involed in therefor wasting billions a year. They are also (im pretty sure) the country with teh most debat, somewhere around 3 trillion dollers.

And for all you who want to deny it, just accept reality and wait for Chinas inevitable out blooming of the U.S.

And Mike is right, not every country, espeshally Muslim countries, want to become like Turkey.
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Why should more developed parts of the world collapse because less developed parts perform basic labor at cheap rates? Most of the production in America is driven by large scale capital development not manual labor. Much of it is also dependant on educated workers. Wages in China will eventually rise too; the US used to have lots of cheap labor like China does now, but that didn't last forever.
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