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Things not looking too good for Iranian president
Topic Started: Jan 18 2007, 05:31 AM (3,696 Views)
Mister Sinister
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piercehawkeye45
Feb 22 2007, 04:45 PM
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Feb 22 2007, 04:22 PM
Mister Sinister
Feb 22 2007, 06:36 PM
Now, combine the housing bubble collapse with OPEC trading in PetroEuros and see what happens to the US.  All we'll have left is Corn, Barley, Wheat, and tobacco, and none will want to buy it.  We will trade it away for things like..electricity from Canada.  That is..until the CFR's outline of the NAU is fulfilled, then it won't matter much will it?

If what we're discussing here should happen, the NAU might be a good thing for America.

Of course the NAU is good. Bush just wants it for reasons that will hurt us and help him.

If you want to make the NAU, we need to start working with Mexico to bring up their living standards or all the labor will go there and kill the American and Canadian middle and working class.

It's not about Bush...he is only a puppet. Those who control the money are controlling him and their agenda has nothing to do with helping the middle class.

The NAU is not good for any reason. It spells the end of the US, period. It spells the end of the constitution and the bill of rights. It spells disasterous consequences to the middle class. It spells an onslaught of third world diseases form the Mexicans pouring across the border with no vaccination. The NAU is where the US ceases to have a constitution that protects you from authoritarian jackbooted blue hat thugs.
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Feb 22 2007, 09:59 PM
piercehawkeye45
Feb 22 2007, 04:45 PM
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Feb 22 2007, 04:22 PM
Mister Sinister
Feb 22 2007, 06:36 PM
Now, combine the housing bubble collapse with OPEC trading in PetroEuros and see what happens to the US.  All we'll have left is Corn, Barley, Wheat, and tobacco, and none will want to buy it.  We will trade it away for things like..electricity from Canada.  That is..until the CFR's outline of the NAU is fulfilled, then it won't matter much will it?

If what we're discussing here should happen, the NAU might be a good thing for America.

Of course the NAU is good. Bush just wants it for reasons that will hurt us and help him.

If you want to make the NAU, we need to start working with Mexico to bring up their living standards or all the labor will go there and kill the American and Canadian middle and working class.

It's not about Bush...he is only a puppet. Those who control the money are controlling him and their agenda has nothing to do with helping the middle class.

The NAU is not good for any reason. It spells the end of the US, period. It spells the end of the constitution and the bill of rights. It spells disasterous consequences to the middle class. It spells an onslaught of third world diseases form the Mexicans pouring across the border with no vaccination. The NAU is where the US ceases to have a constitution that protects you from authoritarian jackbooted blue hat thugs.


It also fulfills that "Manifest Destiny" that you Yanks have been trying to achieve for the past 3 centuries...
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Mister Sinister
Feb 22 2007, 09:59 PM
piercehawkeye45
Feb 22 2007, 04:45 PM
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Feb 22 2007, 04:22 PM
Mister Sinister
Feb 22 2007, 06:36 PM
Now, combine the housing bubble collapse with OPEC trading in PetroEuros and see what happens to the US.  All we'll have left is Corn, Barley, Wheat, and tobacco, and none will want to buy it.  We will trade it away for things like..electricity from Canada.  That is..until the CFR's outline of the NAU is fulfilled, then it won't matter much will it?

If what we're discussing here should happen, the NAU might be a good thing for America.

Of course the NAU is good. Bush just wants it for reasons that will hurt us and help him.

If you want to make the NAU, we need to start working with Mexico to bring up their living standards or all the labor will go there and kill the American and Canadian middle and working class.

It's not about Bush...he is only a puppet. Those who control the money are controlling him and their agenda has nothing to do with helping the middle class.

The NAU is not good for any reason. It spells the end of the US, period. It spells the end of the constitution and the bill of rights. It spells disasterous consequences to the middle class. It spells an onslaught of third world diseases form the Mexicans pouring across the border with no vaccination. The NAU is where the US ceases to have a constitution that protects you from authoritarian jackbooted blue hat thugs.


It also fulfills that "Manifest Destiny" that you Yanks have been trying to achieve for the past 3 centuries...

Your Canadian, Right?

The Canadian Middle class will go down in flames as well, once the CFR"s blueprint for the NAU is fulfilled.
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Mister Sinister
Feb 22 2007, 11:23 PM
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Feb 22 2007, 06:01 PM
Mister Sinister
Feb 22 2007, 09:59 PM
piercehawkeye45
Feb 22 2007, 04:45 PM
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Feb 22 2007, 04:22 PM
Mister Sinister
Feb 22 2007, 06:36 PM
Now, combine the housing bubble collapse with OPEC trading in PetroEuros and see what happens to the US.  All we'll have left is Corn, Barley, Wheat, and tobacco, and none will want to buy it.  We will trade it away for things like..electricity from Canada.  That is..until the CFR's outline of the NAU is fulfilled, then it won't matter much will it?

If what we're discussing here should happen, the NAU might be a good thing for America.

Of course the NAU is good. Bush just wants it for reasons that will hurt us and help him.

If you want to make the NAU, we need to start working with Mexico to bring up their living standards or all the labor will go there and kill the American and Canadian middle and working class.

It's not about Bush...he is only a puppet. Those who control the money are controlling him and their agenda has nothing to do with helping the middle class.

The NAU is not good for any reason. It spells the end of the US, period. It spells the end of the constitution and the bill of rights. It spells disasterous consequences to the middle class. It spells an onslaught of third world diseases form the Mexicans pouring across the border with no vaccination. The NAU is where the US ceases to have a constitution that protects you from authoritarian jackbooted blue hat thugs.


It also fulfills that "Manifest Destiny" that you Yanks have been trying to achieve for the past 3 centuries...

Your Canadian, Right?

The Canadian Middle class will go down in flames as well, once the CFR"s blueprint for the NAU is fulfilled.

Eh?

Us Canucks have known for years that you Americans have wanted to take over our country. (lol in my history class this is usaully what the textbook says when ever America pops into the book.) You stopped after the first World War, but you never got the damned idea out of your (not you personally) head.
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I know, I feel terrible personally. Just know it's not the will of the American people, but the will of a few powerful elite rich from around the globe. We are but the patsy in the great assasination of sovereign nations.

There are what...190 countries in the world...

The US has bases in 130 of them.

In order to defend the New World Order...US soldiers will have to kill and die. Arthur Schlesinger

"The Trilateral Commission is intended to be the vehicle for multinational consolidation of the commercial and banking interests by seizing control of the political government of the United States. The Trilateral Commission represents a skillful, coordinated effort to seize control and consolidate the four centers of power--Political, Monetary, Intellectual, and Ecclesiastical."

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Why does the NAU have to be the end of the constitution? I will strongly agree that the neocon NAU will not be good at all but if we decide to unite at the right time (stress right time) under the right people, it could work to our benefit.
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Problem is alot of average Americans don't care much about helping others in the country. Atleast, that's what it's like around here. Higher officials and the one's with money will always control us if things remain this way.
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Feb 23 2007, 12:39 AM
Why does the NAU have to be the end of the constitution? I will strongly agree that the neocon NAU will not be good at all but if we decide to unite at the right time (stress right time) under the right people, it could work to our benefit.

Look at the EU...Despite being voted down in several countries, the EU constitution continues to thrive. People don't want to lose their sovereign nation. Yet the agenda being pushed. Eventually, the laws that govern our country will need to be changed (considering we are now the US, Mexico and Canada) the laws will now have to reflect the populous of the other countries, which are now part of our own. After all the freedoms we have lost in the past 12 years, how could you think that once the bill of rights is up for review, we'd get to keep any of it? New country means new constitution. New constitution means old constitution go bye-bye. Why would you believe it was a good thing? Do you not enjoy anonymity in a way never before realized in the history of mankind? Do you really want that to change? The government will intrude on everything you do, including putting a stop to those pesky vitamin and mineral sales that take away from Pfizer's bottom line. It's part of CAFTA to stop the sale of all vitamins and minerals. Why?

I don't believe it has to do with the right or left of it. It has nothing to do with that, if the Democrats were so concerned about helping the people, they would not fall in line when the President says so.... Non-binding resolution bullshit. How on Earth could it be a good thing? Nothing that any government does (absent a revolution) will be good for people like you and me. Neocon or Independent, it matters not. Besides all this conglomeration across the globe just reeks of NWO.

How could you see this as anything but disasterous for the US/Canadian middle class? Sure, maybe if Mexico was a more economically developed country, and we had airthight assurance that we were going to be governed under the US constitution. But that is a fart in the wind.
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I told you before, I know the neocon NAU would be disastrous. I am just saying a theoretical NAU has the potential to be just as good
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Feb 23 2007, 12:24 PM
I told you before, I know the neocon NAU would be disastrous. I am just saying a theoretical NAU has the potential to be just as good

I am speaking about the NAU period..controlled from the left or the right regardless is detrimental to the working middle class of the US and Canada. Regardless of who holds the reigns.

I'm asking you for perceived "good" qualities you have of the NAU, regardless of the political affiliations.

I see no good in it except for the government being able to keep track of everyone in NA. That's good for the government. There is nothing good for the middle class involved (in any of the three countries) regardless of who brings it to fruition, because it spells the end of the middle class, just like open borders are hurting the middle class now. If the open borders are streamlined, the poor huddled masses flood across the border and it's only a matter of time before you and I are out of work...The housing market is through the roof, and the interest on your mortgage is so astronomically high your children will be paying off your starter home.
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And that all for the corporations... just thinking about it makes me sick.

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Eh, the more I think about it the more I see it from your view Sinister.

The one I was thinking of wouldn't be realistic for another 100 years anyways, or at least until Mexico closes the gap economically, if that ever happens.
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Feb 23 2007, 02:13 PM
Eh, the more I think about it the more I see it from your view Sinister.

The one I was thinking of wouldn't be realistic for another 100 years anyways, or at least until Mexico closes the gap economically, if that ever happens.

Granted...Mexico being more economically developed it wouldn't hurt the hard working people of this nation...aside from any government changes or changes in laws or rights...I would accept the NAU, but I would still call it Oceania. Unfortunately this has to be faced now...check the track record of the CFR, you'll see that the CFR lays out a policy, then that policy is followed to a tee. Since it's inception, it has been that way. This is the CFR's policy, read the report, read the plans, read between the lines. Then, tell your local elected official you want this stopped.

"All things being equal...keep your world government on ice until we bring everybody up to par socially/economically." -- Me to my local elected official last week. Prompt reply was a click followed by a dial tone. I'll have a better attitude when I call this week. Lesson learned, no beligerancy.

Please, if you inform yourself enough and if you see this to be harmful to the people of the US then I strongly urge you to contact your local elected officials and firmly (not beligerantly) inform them to put an end to this merger. While you're there give a shout out for Net Neutrality (you know you wanna). This is where the fight starts and it can also end here if enough people are informed and take a stand, as in Washington and Oregon, where house officials have entered anti-NAU legislation. The power is still with us, but only barely.

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And that all for the corporations... just thinking about it makes me sick.


Not just "the corporations", but "THE Corporations to end all Corporations" The international organizations (such as the WTO for example), who are working diligently to tear down borders and up free trade treaties such as GATT, NAFTA and CAFTA all to centralize and consolidate wealth. Free trade does not make ordinary people's lives more prosperous but only results in the rich (both people and countries) becoming richer. WTO treaties also show partial and unfair bias toward multinational corporations and wealthy nations. So you see, it's global problem. These organizations helped by central banks multinational corps, and complicit or corrupt govt, have infiltrated nearly every country on the map in order to consolidate wealth and power.
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I am planning to look into it this weekend. I should be able to get back to you with my research by Monday (the next time you will be on right?).
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Please, if you inform yourself enough and if you see this to be harmful to the people of the US then I strongly urge you to contact your local elected officials and firmly (not beligerantly) inform them to put an end to this merger.  While you're there give a shout out for Net Neutrality (you know you wanna).  This is where the fight starts and it can also end here if enough people are informed and take a stand, as in Washington and Oregon, where house officials have entered anti-NAU legislation.  The power is still with us, but only barely.


Not to use an overplayed cliche, but, "Together We Stand, Divided We Fall". We need, now more than ever, remember this. Politicians are mostly cold, uncompassionate, self preserving assholes, but, if enough people are pushing they'll budge and eventually fall.
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