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Is there a God?; How did we come to be?
Topic Started: Jan 19 2007, 03:20 PM (2,671 Views)
Khan
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You have zero knowledge of what he did for us.


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But how can you say kemal ataturk was not racist and did not base his new Turkish Republic on his anti-islamic views when one of his famous quotes was.....

"Islam, this theology of an immoral Arab, is a dead thing"

Not even any of the isreali prime ministers(even while waring with many muslim nations)  have went anywhere near saying that.



Ataturk saw Mohammed as an immoral person due to some of the more questionable things he made. Like marrying a 9 year old girl and plundering caravans to support his growing army.


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So how can you justify that blunt racism, and if you cant, dose that mean you support a racist man?


No. He wasn't racist. He "hated Arabs" the same way "the French hated the Germans" after WWII. Arabs were never integrated to the Ottoman Empire, and weren't accepted to military because they never did train hard, took longer breaks than everyone else, and hated us for overtaking the Caliphate, last but not least, fully rose against us by Lawrence's manipulation. We took the Caliphate by rightful Medieval power, and they whined about it until 20th Century. Should we keep our fingers off everything?

He was the only man supporting a fully secular and enlightened government, free from the claws of religion. And THAT justifies plenty of things.

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Also After he declared the existence of the Republic of Turkey with himself as president, it became a one party state (his party only) and that is definied as  dictatorship therefor, making him a dictator.

So if you supported him, that would mean you support dictatorships.

Just some food for thought


He was the sole general with the willpower to defy the Sultan and rally everyone else to his side during the collapse of the empire.

You should go read the Sevrés Treaty terms, makes Versailles Treaty look like a German decisive victory pact. I'd go to hell for any man with the power to rally a country out of zero and gather enough men to beat French, Italian,British and Greeks combined. If he will become a dictator, so be it. An enlightened dictator can sometimes be better than a corrupt, bickering Senate, provided the dictator makes preparations for a stable government after he will pass away.

However, a BIG however that is, the man allowed a multi party rulership, until the other party was infested by Islamists.

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And here is a beautiful letter and i have only one comment, WOW


Touching... but trivial. Looks like you get subverted easily by one emotional rain of pleading and weeping.

This letter starts with a quote of a Greek noble lady. Written by a Kurd. Greeks and Kurds, one of these two people did a great deal of damage during WW1, one did afterwards.

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If I say neither land nor ocean has produced another diabolical creature like you, please do not take it personally.  Good and evil are a part of the human condition.


Ah, Smurf! him. Seriously. Winston Churchill who wanted to gas the Kurds himself, the imperialist Europeans who raped Africa couldn't outdo the eeevil Atatürk?

This letter is actually over after this sentence for me, for I cannot trust the judgement of the writer. I'll keep quoting for fun.

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Why on earth did God allow such a travesty to take its course for as long as it did?


The thing is my Kurdish friend, there is no God. Never has been. If there was, WW1,WW2, the massive sacrificial rituals of Aztecs , the destruction of Canaan tribes by bloody Israelite hands, and millions of other atrocities wouldn't happen. Your blight is a byproduct of rising Turkish Nationalism due to torments inflicted by Entente forces, it is called tough luck.

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It is a pity that you were under the influence of the latter for most of your adult life.


Try to grow up in Thessalonica, your dad dead before you were born, be poor as hell, and try joining the military, do wonders at Gallipoli and still lose the war, uh-huh. It was evil for sure.

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Never has the world seen a record so atrocious or a glorification so abject in the history of the Middle East.


*cough*Abrahamic Religions*cough*

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In Turkey, the country that owes its existence to you


That is pretty much the point. No Atatürk, no Turkey, no us Turks living freely. We'd be begging from British release and be squeezed between an Armenia, a Greek Colony of Aegea and Kurdistan even when we were independent. So they had to go. Again, tough shit. After all, people kill people since aeons. So stop bitching Kurd.

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Don’t worry; I am not aiming to kill.


It's lucky for all your bloodline and friends in Turkey you didn't try. :rolleyes:

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An awakened and enlightened Turkish population will stop, and may even apologize for the crimes of molesting the Kurds.


I'm heartily sorry for what is done in southeast, but Sheikh Said rebelled and when he was caught, there was British gold on him. So the government believed you were in league with the British and suppressed you the most brutal wat they could.

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The more I think of their adoration, the more I feel we are doomed as the human species.


People adore imaginary Gods, Jewish carpenters and idols. Go figure.

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“The White race is the cancer of humanity.”

Which f.uckwit said that? Racism is the cancer of Humanity. We owe every industrial gadget to Whiteys during the industrial Revolution. While I do not say Africans are less able, I render unto Caesar. Morons.

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The same happened to you, Mr. Atatürk.  After hanging the Kurdish leader Shaikh Said in 1925, and murdering some 40,000 Kurds in Dersim in 1937 and 1938, your drinking got the better of you


Sheikh Said suffered the same fate as every rebel. Should he give flowers FOR Smurf!'S SAKE? I'm losing patience with every sentence of this moron. Ad hominem eh, he was a drunk, eh? He deserved to drink, for he made modern Turkey into what it is. A clever move though. He suppressed people and he was a drunkard. Perfect bait for idiots who have zero knowledge of everything else in the Middle East.


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Unlike the White race, they use something called “remote control” and have pitted the Kurds against the Kurds with incredible good luck.  Abdullah Ocalan, a one-time Kurdish rebel, has now become your unabashed defender and calls, for example, the possible emergence of a federal Kurdish state in Iraq, “a Zionist plot.”


Abdullah Ocalan, the ruler of PKK, has murdered teachers sent to educate Kurdish children so that he could exploit their ignorance, sabotaged infrastructure to benefit the Kurdish population, and is innocent? Should I laugh or should I cry?

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Someone needs to whisper in his ears that not Hamas or Osama bin Laden, but Godless Turks masquerading as defenders of Palestinians while sleeping with the Israelis are running the show in Ankara.


Better than Muslim Kurds masquerading as defenders of all Anatolians sleeping with British running the show in Diyarbakir for me.

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I bet you a hundred dollars, okay if you are up to it I can even do a thousand on credit, their report will be titled something like, “the Turkish Contributions to Western Civilization!”  What do you think?  Your work complete, you could then go to sleep forever.


Kurds hating whitey, aren't they kissing European asses for protection? Hating whitey? I love double standards.


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When you started your war of liberation, you donned turbans, pleaded with the Kurds for help, and invoked Allah to grant you success for a place under the sun where Muslim Turks and Kurds could live unmolested.  When it was over, you banned turbans, took Islam out of government, and the part I don’t understand, declared all Kurds nonexistent!


1) it is called Politics.
2) the last declaration was after the rebellion.

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Lord Kinross, in his book, “Atatürk,” writes, for example, that you had your mom kiss your hand in the immediate aftermath of the event.  Did you really do that to your mother?  Did you also ask her to kiss your feet as well while she was at it?  Did you not feel any shame afterward?  I have never heard shallowness so corrosive and pompousness so rank in my entire life.


I demand immediate proof for such a brazen accusation. Lord Kinross is lying.

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It is incredible that not only Turks, but also foreigners, including the Brits, are now lining up to emulate you as a role model.


It is because they know far better than you do.

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On a clear day, to paraphrase Arundhati Roy, I can almost see the fall of humanity from grace,


Next asshole saying stuff like "humanity falling from grace" gets one on the face. Ignore the rest, blame Atatürk. It is called "losers whining".

More coming, I'll return shortly.


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Today, you would not have been able to do anything like it.  For one thing, you would have been afraid of Osama bin Laden.  For another, Islam has proven to be far more resilient than your shallow alternative, the Western civilization, in Turkey.


If you say WOW to such a letter you are a retarded , fucked up inbred gimp.


End of discussion. I win.
Wine in hand, in the other, Quran,
Both halal I do and haram,
In this incomplete world of a sham,
Neither Pagan I am, nor Musselman!


Omar Khayyam

Come, come, whoever you are,
Wanderer, idolater, worshipper of fire,
Come even though you have broken your vows a thousand times,
Come, and come yet again.
Ours is not a caravan of despair


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Solanum
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I was sitting in the park one day and wondered why frisbees look bigger as they get closer to you. And then it hit me.

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Khan
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Solanum
Mar 25 2007, 01:17 AM
In the words of Jesus "I ain't touching that subject with a 60 foot pole." *cough* South Park *cough*

Ignorant morons who never have an idea of what Ataturk had to go through to build a country from the rotten hulk of an empire infested with ethnic conflicts make me throw a tantrum. And then they put up imaginary letters with filthiest lies put in them.

In southeast, Kurds aren't made to kill each other. A lot of Turkish soldiers died during conflicts. But nooo, they were assimilated Kurds, weren't they?

Um, let's also ignore hundreds of Teachers killed by the Kurdish terrorists, they were there to brainw...err educate Kurdish children the State doesn't want to give a rat's ass about.

Let us also ignore the fact that Ataturk taught the world a lesson in civilisation in Gallipolli with his speech:

"Those heroes that shed their blood and lost their lives… you are now lying in the soil of a friendly country. Therefore rest in peace. There is no difference between the Johnnies and the Mehmets where they lie side by side here in this country of ours… You the mothers who sent their sons from far away countries, wipe away your tears. Your sons are now lying in our bosom and are in peace. Having lost their lives on this land they have become our sons as well."

When he spared the life of Nikolaos Trikoupis , the Greek General even when his soldiers razed entire Turkish villages to the ground during their retreat, and made the first landing at Izmir with a body count of 5000 Turks.

But no, they were merely avenging what the Turks did to them for centuries. Weren't they?

I hate double standards. When Serbs kill, it isn't the fault of Serbian government and Milosevic. When Armenian brigand gangs like Hýnçak and Taþnaksutyan kill, it is silently ignored. When we hit back: "OMFG! Armenian Genocide!" When Greeks kill, and Turkish journalists want to write articles in Europe, they are ignored and suddenly, articles depicting the "plight" of Black Sea Greeks exist in newspapers.

F.uck you. F.uck your double standards,your pompous European courts who ignore every atrocity committed by Western hands, and f.uck every last asshole who hides in comforting shadows of Western ignorance and dreams of insulting Ataturk's legacy. Filth.
Wine in hand, in the other, Quran,
Both halal I do and haram,
In this incomplete world of a sham,
Neither Pagan I am, nor Musselman!


Omar Khayyam

Come, come, whoever you are,
Wanderer, idolater, worshipper of fire,
Come even though you have broken your vows a thousand times,
Come, and come yet again.
Ours is not a caravan of despair


Mevlana Jalaladdin Rumi
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Okkaayyy wanna keep the swearing down mate? I'm Catholic so I beleive in God and most of his teachings. Yet wether or not he exists is irrevlevant to me, I just like the idea of someone watching over me.
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Atataturk once fit a whole two litre coke bottle up his asshole. It was an acomplishment to be proud of.
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sadly, the bottle opened and his shit reacted with the coke, causing his entire small intestine to disintegrate.
Love and trust in one another,
never fear that we might fall.
Because God gave us friends,
not a mountain after all.

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His legacy lives on however, in the hearts of brave retards world-wide. His death brought to light a formerly underground social epidemic. More and more cases of coke-bottle-in-asshole related deaths were reported every day. Eventually, there was a huge crackdown on coke-bottle-in-ass offenders throughout Turkey. Offenders were sent immediatly to prison, sometimes for life. Over a thousand Coke bottle dealers were executed in what some coke-bottle-in-ass enthusiasts call "a giant fucking mass execuction". Coke-bottle-in-ass supporters were forced to live in the sewers, able to survive only eating undigested peices of corn from the toilets above. Mr. Ataturk, we salute you.
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That's it. That's the usual way you little retards should talk. No logic but the babbling of the weak gimps. Keep it that way so that the world can isolate the likes of you.
Wine in hand, in the other, Quran,
Both halal I do and haram,
In this incomplete world of a sham,
Neither Pagan I am, nor Musselman!


Omar Khayyam

Come, come, whoever you are,
Wanderer, idolater, worshipper of fire,
Come even though you have broken your vows a thousand times,
Come, and come yet again.
Ours is not a caravan of despair


Mevlana Jalaladdin Rumi
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Come on guys......let's get back on topic.
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To answer the question of the thread title:

http://www.400monkeys.com/God/
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Khan
Mar 28 2007, 11:20 AM
That's it. That's the usual way you little retards should talk. No logic but the babbling of the weak gimps. Keep it that way so that the world can isolate the likes of you.

Hey, it isn’t our fault that Ataturk was a little icky piece of amphibious shit that’s was stuck to the shoe of humanity. Thankfully, humanity has learned never to walk that alley again being it littered with amphibious shit and the stricken people of the social epidemic coke-bottle-in-asshole. That is the only place above my toilet that they feel safe to congregate at, because they believe they can over power there social rivals in that territory, which is of course, the amphibious shit. These retarded people have yet to learn that amphibious shit isn’t living and do not reply, therefore confronting it with insults and sometimes in rare cases, when they build up enough confidence, physical aggression every time they see one.
Love and trust in one another,
never fear that we might fall.
Because God gave us friends,
not a mountain after all.

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I don't expect a flame war to break out here.


Let's keep up that expectation.
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Mar 28 2007, 10:39 PM
Khan
Mar 28 2007, 11:20 AM
That's it. That's the usual way you little retards should talk. No logic but the babbling of the weak gimps. Keep it that way so that the world can isolate the likes of you.

Hey, it isn’t our fault that Ataturk was a little icky piece of amphibious shit that’s was stuck to the shoe of humanity. Thankfully, humanity has learned never to walk that alley again being it littered with amphibious shit and the stricken people of the social epidemic coke-bottle-in-asshole. That is the only place above my toilet that they feel safe to congregate at, because they believe they can over power there social rivals in that territory, which is of course, the amphibious shit. These retarded people have yet to learn that amphibious shit isn’t living and do not reply, therefore confronting it with insults and sometimes in rare cases, when they build up enough confidence, physical aggression every time they see one.

Te he he :lol:
Burn!
This godless fellow appreciates your Islamic wit.
Can we stop with the political bickering?
God is dead.
And we have killed him.
And are now raping his corpse.
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Mar 28 2007, 10:39 PM
Khan
Mar 28 2007, 11:20 AM
That's it. That's the usual way you little retards should talk. No logic but the babbling of the weak gimps. Keep it that way so that the world can isolate the likes of you.

Hey, it isn’t our fault that Ataturk was a little icky piece of amphibious shit that’s was stuck to the shoe of humanity. Thankfully, humanity has learned never to walk that alley again being it littered with amphibious shit and the stricken people of the social epidemic coke-bottle-in-asshole. That is the only place above my toilet that they feel safe to congregate at, because they believe they can over power there social rivals in that territory, which is of course, the amphibious shit. These retarded people have yet to learn that amphibious shit isn’t living and do not reply, therefore confronting it with insults and sometimes in rare cases, when they build up enough confidence,

*sigh* How old are you? I never saw such a clear example of brainwashing. Or trolling.

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physical aggression every time they see one.


Do try. Please. And say your Armenian friend or relatives my regards. Tell them they succeeded in washing the thing you have in your cranium.


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God is dead.
And we have killed him.
And are now raping his corpse.


Meh. We merely realized that we should not:

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As our little dipshit sabertooth filled several criteria of trollishness,

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Wine in hand, in the other, Quran,
Both halal I do and haram,
In this incomplete world of a sham,
Neither Pagan I am, nor Musselman!


Omar Khayyam

Come, come, whoever you are,
Wanderer, idolater, worshipper of fire,
Come even though you have broken your vows a thousand times,
Come, and come yet again.
Ours is not a caravan of despair


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