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Death; What to do?
Topic Started: Mar 5 2007, 02:38 AM (975 Views)
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So, let's imagine your best friend just died. Imagine your most well known friend experiencing some type of accident, maybe a car accident. A sudden accident, with no warning of him (or her) going to die. Know, imagine you are on the Internet and some random guy you only know as some guy on that forum post a thread on how his best friend just died in a major car accident. Also, imagine some one you hate just died, how you respond. You hated them in every aspect, the person was rude, annoying, and just a pain in the at 2 money signs. How would you react in each scenario? What is better, to grieve and give death respect, or trying to forget it? If a horrible person died is it okay to start to treat them with fake respect.
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Through my experiences, I have found out that we feel death in two ways, how close you were to that person personally and how close we were to that person in status (age, sex, religion, school, etc).

Obviously when you are personally close and attached to a person, you will feel sad because you know you will never see this person again.

The second part is much more complex. Why do we feel more sorrow from the guy who died in the next town who is very similar to you yet you never met him than an old neighbor you would talk to every once in a while? You knew the neighbor better but you still felt more sorrow for the kid you didn't know. That is because you will put yourself in the person who just died shoes and depending on much you see yourself in that person, realize that it could happen to you or someone that you were close too.

About two weeks ago, I had a friend over and we were talking catching up since we haven't talked in about 7 months and he got a phone call telling him that one of his friends just died. Even though I never knew this person, I was still affected by it. This guy was around the same age, same social status, same friend, etc. He died doing something that I could die in (car accident). You will feel sorrow for that person because you see yourself in him and can see yourself dieing as well.


For your question TGOTF, it is natural to feel more sorrow for your friend than the guy you hate. You are personally closer to a good friend, so it will affect you more. Even though I'm sure you don't wish death on the person you hate, you just wish that you never see him again, which isn't much different from death.
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Death is the one thing that we cant escape, so it is something that tends to effect people a lot. I have come to know death as inevitable and not to be feared. This is not to say i welcome it either, but i don't dwell on it, and although i miss the person who dies i know they lived there life as they decided to. I feel bad for the people who don't have the chance to at the least become adults, because they didn't get much time to live at all. As for the enemy and friend part, regardless of who dies i respect them in death. Just because that person was annoying and/or cruel and/or even some evil/psycho crazy man anything you do at that point only effects the people who were close to him/her. You can spend an hour a week thinking about the possibility of death and waste 2085 hours of your life (assuming you don't think about it till you are 20 and you die at 60, meaning it would be much more for most people), so instead i will try my best to enjoy that time and respect and remember people for who they were in life.
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I agree with both of the above post, and when someone dies I know I could not avoid it or stop it in anyway. The thing is, it's easier to say then do. Even though right now I know not to dwell on death because you can't stop it, when someone very close to you dies you can't stop yourself for greiving for a long amount of time. However, when it is someone you didn't know or hated you still try to think about how their family most feel, but you wont be as damaged and you will never be able to truly show empathy for them.
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There is nothing wrong about thinking about death, it helps you grow as a person. You just have to realize their is limits and it shouldn't affect your performance in other areas of life.
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piercehawkeye45
Mar 5 2007, 05:32 PM
There is nothing wrong about thinking about death, it helps you grow as a person. You just have to realize their is limits and it shouldn't affect your performance in other areas of life.

True dat. Death is just a part of life. What hurts is when it's a loved one that dies, then it becomes a "missing" feeling. As far as an enemy dieing, it depends on how they died and how much hatred there was towards that person. If they died because you had to defend yourself, then tough shit. If they died because of circumstances out of their control then it's up to you to decide how to feel about their death.
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Mar 5 2007, 05:55 PM
piercehawkeye45
Mar 5 2007, 05:32 PM
There is nothing wrong about thinking about death, it helps you grow as a person. You just have to realize their is limits and it shouldn't affect your performance in other areas of life.

True dat. Death is just a part of life. What hurts is when it's a loved one that dies, then it becomes a "missing" feeling. As far as an enemy dieing, it depends on how they died and how much hatred there was towards that person. If they died because you had to defend yourself, then tough shit. If they died because of circumstances out of their control then it's up to you to decide how to feel about their death.

When I said enemy died I just ment he/she died, not that you killed them...
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I imagine that killing someone would turn ones feeling about life and death like the Wheel of Fortune. And I am all for thinking about death, but most people dont think about it, they fear and dwell on it. Coming to terms about death and losing that fear can be one of the most liberating things to happen to a human being (in my experience).
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About a year ago my girlfriend died, and I still think it was because of me. It wasn't exactly an accident either when someone killed her on the street. I don't think people really ever get over death, they just try to put it behind them. Don't let it affect you too much, but never forget that it's always there.
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The thing is, even when you know it wasn't anyones fault and that it couldn't have been stopped, you still feel that empty feeling.
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Mar 6 2007, 03:14 PM
The thing is, even when you know it wasn't anyones fault and that it couldn't have been stopped, you still feel that empty feeling.

Aye, tis life laddy. Ya start off with a full deck an' then lady luck takes one card away ata time. You may feel empty but at least you still have some of your deck still there. Always look on the Bright Side.
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There isnt anything wrong with thinking about it. Dwelling on someones death for too long could be problematic though. If someone im good friends with died, of course id be sad and grieve. The more you know a person the more you care about them. Not seeing someone you care about ever again is devestating. Someone you despise on every level, not so much. Personally I dont care about people I dont like. If one of my enemies died, I wouldnt care one bit. No empathy for him. It might be wrong on some level or another, but thats just the way I feel about it.
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If one of my enemies died, I wouldnt care one bit. No empathy for him. It might be wrong on some level or another, but thats just the way I feel about it.


Not wrong, more like realistic.
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"Who was the most beautiful Seraph in Heaven?"
And I reply, "Seraph Michael?"
"No."
And I reply, "Seraph Samael?"
"No."
And I reply in finality; "Then surely, Seraph Seraphiel."
"No.
The most beautiful Angel in Heaven was,
Seraph Lucifer
And as He fell, His feathers departed
Thusly, were the Souls of man and woman
Tis the reason why He wishes so desperately for
His Lost Feathers... His Wings...
To fly
Back Home."
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Apr 7 2007, 12:11 PM
Death is only the beginning.

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Depends on your perspective...... If you mean beginning of life, then it's not, it's the end. If you mean beginning of a legacy, then yes, I agree.
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