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Animal cruelty; Help me bears!.......... im dying!
Topic Started: Mar 9 2007, 07:39 PM (940 Views)
Hunter
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Do you think its right for animals such as bears to be killed if their blood or anything like that could save somebodies life? Or if somebody had to have a dancing bear so they wouldnt starve to death? and what is your overall view on animals and how we treat them?
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Thank GOD this was not a "Anamals (FURRIEZ) hayve feeligze!! lolo"
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Because I would have talked about how I eat animals that are
many times still kicking.


But anyways, I think it is the right thing to go.
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Do you think its right for animals such as bears to be killed if their blood or anything like that could save somebodies life?

Yes, but make sure they don't go extinct.

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Or if somebody had to have a dancing bear so they wouldnt starve to death?

What?

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and what is your overall view on animals and how we treat them?

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As long as we're killing animals for our own survival(such as food, clothing....ect) then it's alright. If we're poaching them until the brink of extinction, that's where the problem is. Ivory tusks for piano keys? If someone could explain how this can be justified........
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I definetely do not believe in animal cruelty, it's wrong, we are "animals" too.

Moved to Philsophy and Ethics because it doesn't fit in with Science, History, or Nature, and it's more of Ethics and a Philopsophy :P
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Go ahead and the tell about the mutilation of your pinky. We have until the end of the world to hear it.
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Okay, i just saw nature so i put it under that :blink:
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Inflicting pain to sate sadistic urges is one thing, but humans are still the superior species. Our survival trumps that of the animals around us, even if that means pushing them to extinction (assuming their extinction won't do more harm in the long run). However, many practices are wasteful, or serve only our vanity/greed. I think that's a fair spot to draw the line on killing animals.
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There is a difference between killing animals, and being cruel to animals. If you are killing tem out of need, sure, be my guest. We didnt work our way to the top to eat grass. We shouldn't go around shooting random animals and watching them die and hunting them to extinction, that;s just wrong.
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My view is that animals are property and their owners can do whatever they want with them...
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Falcon
Mar 12 2007, 05:38 PM
My view is that animals are property and their owners can do whatever they want with them...

Which animals are property? If you mean live stock and personal pets, then I guess they are property and as long as it's not considered cruelty, you're right. If it's wildlife you're meaning, then those animals aren't property and there should be laws in place to protect them from cruelty and poaching.
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Mar 13 2007, 01:03 PM
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Mar 12 2007, 05:38 PM
My view is that animals are property and their owners can do whatever they want with them...

Which animals are property? If you mean live stock and personal pets, then I guess they are property and as long as it's not considered cruelty, you're right. If it's wildlife you're meaning, then those animals aren't property and there should be laws in place to protect them from cruelty and poaching.

They're the property of the landowner upon which they are found just like trees or minerals.
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Falcon
Mar 13 2007, 01:14 PM
They're the property of the landowner upon which they are found just like trees or minerals.

But, they probably don't stay on the landowner's property like minerals or trees. Animals have a tendancy not to stay on land because of property lines.
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Mar 13 2007, 01:18 PM
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Mar 13 2007, 01:14 PM
They're the property of the landowner upon which they are found just like trees or minerals.

But, they probably don't stay on the landowner's property like minerals or trees. Animals have a tendancy not to stay on land because of property lines.

Let me clarify:

Those who have rightful occupancy of the beasts (acutal possession) have first claim to all beasts ferae naturae. The reason why I said landowners is because landowners can prohibit all other persons from taking occupancy in their beasts at any given time because they can exclude others from their land with trespass laws.
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Falcon
Mar 13 2007, 02:06 PM
Killer Bee
Mar 13 2007, 01:18 PM
Falcon
Mar 13 2007, 01:14 PM
They're the property of the landowner upon which they are found just like trees or minerals.

But, they probably don't stay on the landowner's property like minerals or trees. Animals have a tendancy not to stay on land because of property lines.

Let me clarify:

Those who have rightful occupancy of the beasts (acutal possession) have first claim to all beasts ferae naturae. The reason why I said landowners is because landowners can prohibit all other persons from taking occupancy in their beasts at any given time because they can exclude others from their land with trespass laws.

Thanks for the clarification, and you are correct.
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Magical Gelatin
Mar 9 2007, 10:50 PM
I definetely do not believe in animal cruelty, it's wrong, we are "animals" too.

Moved to Philsophy and Ethics because it doesn't fit in with Science, History, or Nature, and it's more of Ethics and a Philopsophy :P

We are above them. We shape world to our liking, and that's proof for me. No religion involved.

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My view is that animals are property and their owners can do whatever they want with them...


I disagree. Animals aren't property because they don't philosophize or build a civilisation. We can kill and displace as much as we need, but no further, we can't own them entirely. They love, they care for children, cats and dogs in our campus have distinct characteristics, the old dog defends kittens from newcomer puppies which want to actually play with kittens and he loves when there's paper kebab cooking (yes yes you will laugh but the actual kebab is inside the fireproof paper box) especially and waits before the mess hall for the remains.

They think just like us, but have less constructive intelligence. But I believe we are above them.
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Both halal I do and haram,
In this incomplete world of a sham,
Neither Pagan I am, nor Musselman!


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Wanderer, idolater, worshipper of fire,
Come even though you have broken your vows a thousand times,
Come, and come yet again.
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