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| Animal cruelty; Help me bears!.......... im dying! | |
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| Tweet Topic Started: Mar 9 2007, 07:39 PM (940 Views) | |
| Hunter | Mar 9 2007, 07:39 PM Post #1 |
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Do you think its right for animals such as bears to be killed if their blood or anything like that could save somebodies life? Or if somebody had to have a dancing bear so they wouldnt starve to death? and what is your overall view on animals and how we treat them? |
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| Rhas BloodBear | Mar 9 2007, 07:49 PM Post #2 |
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I FUCKING SUCK AT EVERYTHING GOD DAMN
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Thank GOD this was not a "Anamals (FURRIEZ) hayve feeligze!! lolo" thread. Because I would have talked about how I eat animals that are many times still kicking. But anyways, I think it is the right thing to go. |
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| piercehawkeye45 | Mar 9 2007, 08:01 PM Post #3 |
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Franklin Pierce
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Yes, but make sure they don't go extinct.
What?
This topic is similar to this. |
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Dropped the atomic bomb let them know that it's real Speak soft with a big stick do what I say or be killed I'm America! I have found the enemy and he is us. | |
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| Killer Bee | Mar 9 2007, 08:11 PM Post #4 |
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As long as we're killing animals for our own survival(such as food, clothing....ect) then it's alright. If we're poaching them until the brink of extinction, that's where the problem is. Ivory tusks for piano keys? If someone could explain how this can be justified........ |
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| Magical Gelatin | Mar 9 2007, 10:50 PM Post #5 |
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I definetely do not believe in animal cruelty, it's wrong, we are "animals" too. Moved to Philsophy and Ethics because it doesn't fit in with Science, History, or Nature, and it's more of Ethics and a Philopsophy
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| Hunter | Mar 10 2007, 11:11 AM Post #6 |
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Styx Ferryman
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Okay, i just saw nature so i put it under that
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| Duncan | Mar 10 2007, 01:22 PM Post #7 |
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Inflicting pain to sate sadistic urges is one thing, but humans are still the superior species. Our survival trumps that of the animals around us, even if that means pushing them to extinction (assuming their extinction won't do more harm in the long run). However, many practices are wasteful, or serve only our vanity/greed. I think that's a fair spot to draw the line on killing animals. |
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| MGauntz | Mar 12 2007, 04:41 PM Post #8 |
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There is a difference between killing animals, and being cruel to animals. If you are killing tem out of need, sure, be my guest. We didnt work our way to the top to eat grass. We shouldn't go around shooting random animals and watching them die and hunting them to extinction, that;s just wrong. |
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| Falcon | Mar 12 2007, 05:38 PM Post #9 |
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Apocalyptic Usher
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My view is that animals are property and their owners can do whatever they want with them... |
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| Killer Bee | Mar 13 2007, 01:03 PM Post #10 |
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Which animals are property? If you mean live stock and personal pets, then I guess they are property and as long as it's not considered cruelty, you're right. If it's wildlife you're meaning, then those animals aren't property and there should be laws in place to protect them from cruelty and poaching. |
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| Falcon | Mar 13 2007, 01:14 PM Post #11 |
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Apocalyptic Usher
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They're the property of the landowner upon which they are found just like trees or minerals. |
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| Killer Bee | Mar 13 2007, 01:18 PM Post #12 |
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But, they probably don't stay on the landowner's property like minerals or trees. Animals have a tendancy not to stay on land because of property lines. |
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| Falcon | Mar 13 2007, 02:06 PM Post #13 |
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Let me clarify: Those who have rightful occupancy of the beasts (acutal possession) have first claim to all beasts ferae naturae. The reason why I said landowners is because landowners can prohibit all other persons from taking occupancy in their beasts at any given time because they can exclude others from their land with trespass laws. |
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| Killer Bee | Mar 13 2007, 05:03 PM Post #14 |
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Thanks for the clarification, and you are correct. |
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| Khan | Mar 13 2007, 09:38 PM Post #15 |
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HAVE YOU HEARD OF THIS SWEET WEBSITE CALLED FOUR CHAN DOT ORG?
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We are above them. We shape world to our liking, and that's proof for me. No religion involved.
I disagree. Animals aren't property because they don't philosophize or build a civilisation. We can kill and displace as much as we need, but no further, we can't own them entirely. They love, they care for children, cats and dogs in our campus have distinct characteristics, the old dog defends kittens from newcomer puppies which want to actually play with kittens and he loves when there's paper kebab cooking (yes yes you will laugh but the actual kebab is inside the fireproof paper box) especially and waits before the mess hall for the remains. They think just like us, but have less constructive intelligence. But I believe we are above them. |
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Wine in hand, in the other, Quran, Both halal I do and haram, In this incomplete world of a sham, Neither Pagan I am, nor Musselman! Omar Khayyam Come, come, whoever you are, Wanderer, idolater, worshipper of fire, Come even though you have broken your vows a thousand times, Come, and come yet again. Ours is not a caravan of despair Mevlana Jalaladdin Rumi | |
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