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Dr. Death (Kevorkian); ...right to die.
Topic Started: Apr 18 2007, 08:44 PM (868 Views)
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Should you be allowed to have someone terminate your life if you're facing a terminal disease such as Lou Gehrig's disease? Why or why not.



...discuss.
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While it seems that terminating the life of those who are in sound mind and have a legitimate reason to want to die (i.e. crippling illness) is right and humane, it would require incredibly strict and specific legislation I imagine. How's it working out where it's legal, anyway? Oh, and another thing, I'd hate to be the guy who does it.

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yes... death happens, why should people be forced to wait 20 years to die if they want to do it right now?
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Any time you want to shuffle yourself off this mortal coil is fine by me. Will I miss you? Sure, but not for long. There are so many ways a person can die and most of them aren't very...elegant for lack of a better term. There is no greater dignity than choosing your own way off.

It's like if you were on a roller coaster that was out of control and it was going to kill you, would'nt you rather have an alternative of jumping off to your death as opposed to riding the infernal thing until it finally jumped the tracks and hurled you into the ground?
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Yes, people would want to have choices. I myself though, in the above example, would ride the coaster all the way to the end. If I'm going to die I should have a little fun first. :P
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You would have to be very careful about how you went about it though. I know I've had periods in my life where I at least contemplated the thought of dying, and now, a year or two later, I'm fine. If I'd decided to end it there, the world would be denied me.

However, if they are going to spend their lives in a bed, in pain, or so doped up that they don't know what's going on, it's probably a good idea to pull the plug.
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If I can never take care of myself or I depend on machines to live, just kill me. That's the way I look at it. If I'm not able to function alone, then I don't want to at all. So unless I get into a major accident, I'm fine.
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I don't have any problems with it - actually I can only see advantadges to it. The one who gets his/her life ended doesn't have to live 10 years or so in pain, and the family of that person doesn't have to pay that much and take care for that person (since (s)he's dead).

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If I had a terminal disease I would not kill myself for two reasons:
1) I'm a deep believer in fate. I believe everything is destiny and that every event in your life is meant to happen for a reason and that we are given tests perodically throughout our life to see if we deserve it. I also believe everyone you meet in life is their for a purpose: whether to teach you, love you or hurt you. SO if I had a terminal disease and I had not died yet I would think i had something left to feel/see/discover.

2) The second reason, I'd rather fight to the end through the pain than just give up and die.

Now there is an exception. Alzheimer's Disease. I happen to have had a grandmother who died from this horrible disease. I would hate to forgot who I am or who my family was...
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You have to figure in "how much" pain and suffering someone is going through. I watched my grandmother die of brain cancer, and she literally screamed for mercy....I don't or can't even imagine the pain she went through. I don't think that wanting to die with dignity is being a "pussy", it means that you don't want to have to suffer. And no law should require a person to suffer.....that's my position on the topic.
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Apr 19 2007, 10:59 AM
You have to figure in "how much" pain and suffering someone is going through. I watched my grandmother die of brain cancer, and she literally screamed for mercy....I don't or can't even imagine the pain she went through. I don't think that wanting to die with dignity is being a "pussy", it means that you don't want to have to suffer. And no law should require a person to suffer.....that's my position on the topic.

I totally agree..
That sucks, man.




I agreed with EVERYTHING you said.
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Apr 19 2007, 01:52 PM
If I had a terminal disease I would not kill myself for two reasons:
1) I'm a deep believer in fate. I believe everything is destiny and that every event in your life is meant to happen for a reason and that we are given tests perodically throughout our life to see if we deserve it. I also believe everyone you meet in life is their for a purpose: whether to teach you, love you or hurt you. SO if I had a terminal disease and I had not died yet I would think i had something left to feel/see/discover.

2) The second reason I wouldn't is because if you did you're just a pussy. I'd rather fight to the end through the pain than just give up and die.

Now there is an exception. Alzheimer's Disease. I happen to have had a grandmother who died from this horrible disease. I would hate to forgot who I am or who my family was...

First of all this is a very noble opinion. It shows how much you value the gift of life that has been given you. It also shows you are concious of those around you and would attempt to improve the lives of others by living out your disease. I agree to a certain extent but in my mind the idea that I might be put here and given a horrible disease for the sole purpose of fighting for "Assisted Suicide" would be a possibility. And you are totally right about the second point. I would probably opt out for the sole reason of being fearful to face my own (painful and degrading, mind you) demise.

My grandmother just recently passed after dealing with Alzheimer's for several years. When her Husband died she thought her Father had passed away, it was incredibly hard to watch her waste away like that. But that is just it, it's only hard (most of the time) for those having to watch it happen and not so much for those that live through it. My sister works in the medical field and she swears up and down it's the only way to go. She refers to it as "pleasantly confused" or "blissfully uawares" because people (usually) in such a condition are not in pain, not abusive, not belligerant, and far from aggravated or inconvenienced. In other words they don't know enough to know they are close to death. Which is of course in stark contrast to say, liver cancer. So in the end it's all about perspective. If you feel you should live through a horrible illness that will kill you anyway, by all means it is your perogative and I'll let you do it. All I would ask is the same in return.
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Hmm...

Okay I take back the "pussy" comment. You've made your point Bee and I apoligize if I offended you. You must understand I'm a bit naive since I've never acuttally expierenced death so I admit I was wrong to say that. I guess I didn't take into consideration people who were acuttally suffering/suffered, rather I took the thought of people who haven't suffered yet. Sorry my bad. My condolences to your late grandmother.

Nevertheless I still would opt for not killing myself no matter the pain only because I'd rather fight to the end than give up. I think life is worth fighting for; in all forms.

Anyways Sinster, even though I would be blistfull, just the thought of not being able to use my brain, or think rationaly scares me.
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Okay I take back the "pussy" comment. You've made your point Bee and I apoligize if I offended you. You must understand I'm a bit naive since I've never acuttally expierenced death so I admit I was wrong to say that. I guess I didn't take into consideration people who were acuttally suffering/suffered, rather I took the thought of people who haven't suffered yet. Sorry my bad. My condolences to your late grandmother.


Oh, I'm not offended, Katastrof. I'm not saying to give up on life, you're right, it is too valuable to throw away. I just can't imagine the pain of slowly wasting away to nothing. The day I can't feed myself anymore, or can't go to the bathroom myself, I'd hope someone would blow my head off. That's just my opinion, though.
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IF the disease requires a miracle to be cured, or irreversible brain damage, death doesn't sound evil.
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