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Fascism in America; In 10 easy steps...
Topic Started: Apr 24 2007, 09:09 PM (2,509 Views)
piercehawkeye45
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Apr 30 2007, 12:22 PM
to be honest i think a absoloute monarchy is the best way to run a country.

Nah, monarchies are usually passed down in the same family line which is destined to failure after a few generations.

A dictatorship where the best person would be voted in by a small group of people would be a lot better in my opinion.
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what do you think about an elected monarch like scotland used to have?
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A dictatorship where the best person would be voted in by a small group of people would be a lot better in my opinion.

And who would elect the small group of people that would elect a good leader?
Democracy isn't perfect, in some countries it isn't even particularly good but it's the best of all the forms of government tried in world history.
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no its not,

Democracy is a flawwed system of running a country that is currently in its golden years (most countries being democracies at the moment) but its reverting back

saudi Arabia is an absoloute monarchy, meaning it has a king who can do whatever he damnwell pleases even if that means the slaughter of millions, but he doesn't, he is more interested in making his country powerful and his people happy, taught and fed.

dictatorship is a fine and acceptable way of running a country, you just have to find the right guy to be dictator.

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And who would elect the small group of people that would elect a good leader?


scotland had a system were a few elected one leader as dictator for almost one thousand years without any problems.
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Democracy works until the people realize they can vote for the government to take care of them. They don't realize that its their own tax dollars and those of their neighbors being used. They assume its the rich, but the rich got rich because they know the loopholes not to pay taxes.

After the government takes care of its people, the people see the government like a parent and believe anything it says.

Then the government takes over.
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piercehawkeye45
Apr 30 2007, 07:01 PM
A dictatorship where the best person would be voted in by a small group of people would be a lot better in my opinion.

It all depends on who the "small group" of people doing the voting are. Could you imagine if a small group of tycoons or corporate execs were the ones voting in 2008 to elect the next U.S. president? We think it's bad now with Dubya, but it could always be worse.......
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Apr 30 2007, 11:01 AM
A dictatorship where the best person would be voted in by a small group of people would be a lot better in my opinion.

you mean like the soviet union?
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A democracy is the best form of government. Period. Unforntunatly it doesn't exist. A true democracy would have no polititions, it would have no central government structure (There would be of course some structure but it would not be centralized nor would it have any power to impose its own laws but only what the majority decided). Democracy would work if we cut the middle man (aka the corupt government). If we all voted for what we wanted at the start of an election year and voted on desicions democracy could work. Unfourtunatly that too is unreasonable considering voting on every single decision would be annoying, and half of the people would be too lazy to go vote, so a minority could rule...SO just like comunism, democracy sucks in the real world too!
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Apr 30 2007, 08:32 PM
saudi Arabia is an absoloute monarchy, meaning it has a king who can do whatever he damnwell pleases even if that means the slaughter of millions, but he doesn't, he is more interested in making his country powerful and his people happy, taught and fed.

You're still kidding, right?
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Apr 30 2007, 02:32 PM
saudi Arabia is an absoloute monarchy, meaning it has a king who can do whatever he damnwell pleases even if that means the slaughter of millions, but he doesn't, he is more interested in making his country powerful and his people happy, taught and fed.

dictatorship is a fine and acceptable way of running a country, you just have to find the right guy to be dictator.

Now apply that formula to an overpopulated third world country...the resulting monarch then more closely resembles Idi Amin. Actually a number of people believe that the Saudi contribution to world terror would disqualify them from the term 'benevolent"...but for the sake of arguement... When you have a rich country (and I mean gold spilling over into the streets) and a modest population for the amount of wealth, then the ruling monarch won't need to go around murdering. Take away their wealth and they would be slitting throats (inside their own borders as opposed to outside them, which is what they do now) left and right to enjoy what they enjoy now.

Also, there is no such person as the "right guy" for a dictatorship. They all become the same person. That person is varied shades of Stalin. See: Orwell.
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A democracy is the best form of government. Period. Unforntunatly it doesn't exist. A true democracy would have no polititions, it would have no central government structure (There would be of course some structure but it would not be centralized nor would it have any power to impose its own laws but only what the majority decided). Democracy would work if we cut the middle man (aka the corupt government). If we all voted for what we wanted at the start of an election year and voted on desicions democracy could work. Unfourtunatly that too is unreasonable considering voting on every single decision would be annoying, and half of the people would be too lazy to go vote, so a minority could rule...SO just like comunism, democracy sucks in the real world too!

I think you are basically talking about anarchy. I really like anarchy but I think it is too utopian.



To clear up what I said. My example is to make the most efficient government. To get a fair government, I really don't think there is a fair system. A republic is flawed and is shown by the racism and corruption in America now. A democracy is just the majority vote, so the minority always gets screwed. My utopian society would be an anarchical state but I still think it is impossible to maintain.
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US just rejected an offer from Russia to jointly explore the moon.

I can understand why, seeing as "Russia" is one of the "bad guys".


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America refused because they want the claim to fame of being the first and alot of americans still see Russia as a evil country so their would be alot of controversy if they colaborated.

Russia is not an evil or bad country, its like an incredibly corrupt and unstable version of america, their is nothing more the russians want than to become a westernised MEDC, completely forget the soviet union and do not compare it to russia.
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Apr 30 2007, 03:11 PM
A democracy is the best form of government. Period. Unforntunatly it doesn't exist. A true democracy would have no polititions, it would have no central government structure (There would be of course some structure but it would not be centralized nor would it have any power to impose its own laws but only what the majority decided). Democracy would work if we cut the middle man (aka the corupt government). If we all voted for what we wanted at the start of an election year and voted on desicions democracy could work. Unfourtunatly that too is unreasonable considering voting on every single decision would be annoying, and half of the people would be too lazy to go vote, so a minority could rule...SO just like comunism, democracy sucks in the real world too!

I think you are basically talking about anarchy. I really like anarchy but I think it is too utopian.



To clear up what I said. My example is to make the most efficient government. To get a fair government, I really don't think there is a fair system. A republic is flawed and is shown by the racism and corruption in America now. A democracy is just the majority vote, so the minority always gets screwed. My utopian society would be an anarchical state but I still think it is impossible to maintain.

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