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Fascism in America; In 10 easy steps...
Topic Started: Apr 24 2007, 09:09 PM (2,507 Views)
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Everything that I hear from real anarchists suggest that anarchy can survive in large areas. I don't much about it now and don't have the time to thoroughly research it now but I believe Spain did survive a good amount of years as basically an anarchical state.
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Anarchy is where their is no government at all, its that simple.

No police force, No Real Army, No Taxes, No nothing, you just let the people be.
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Anarchy has rules, the have militias, they many other things that you probably wouldn't think they have. Do you even know what real anarchy is? And don't say a country without a government.
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I just learned that before the white's invasion and genocide of 10 million, the Congo had many tribes that had no historical memory of war.

Their only weapons were knives, which had never been used against humans.

I don't know if this was an anarchal society, but perhaps the reason large-scale anarchy doesn't work is because the mindset needed to maintain it is the most easily conqured. And it's hard to breed and spread the genes of a dead race.
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May 3 2007, 08:57 PM
one of my friends said he voted a for a local politician because she had very large breasts.

I was under the impression this was the way American culture worked...
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May 3 2007, 11:54 PM
Brutus
May 3 2007, 08:57 PM
one of my friends said he voted a for a local politician because she had very large breasts.

I was under the impression this was the way American culture worked...

Yeah but Brutus is British (as am I actually)...still, our cultures are increasingly close.
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May 3 2007, 09:41 PM
Anarchy has rules, the have militias, they many other things that you probably wouldn't think they have. Do you even know what real anarchy is? And don't say a country without a government.

Seems to me we understand different things by the name "anarchist society". Could you please explain your concept of it ?



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Spain did survive a good amount of years as basically an anarchical state

It did, but look at it now. It's no longer anarchist which means, to me at least, that in the end it failed.
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Anarchism is a large and complicated field. I'd suggest starting at the Wikipedia and going on from there to things like the Anarchism FAQ if you're really interested in what it is and how it's supposed to work.
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piercehawkeye45
May 3 2007, 09:41 PM
Anarchy has rules, the have militias, they many other things that you probably wouldn't think they have. Do you even know what real anarchy is? And don't say a country without a government.

Seems to me we understand different things by the name "anarchist society". Could you please explain your concept of it ?



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Spain did survive a good amount of years as basically an anarchical state

It did, but look at it now. It's no longer anarchist which means, to me at least, that in the end it failed.

Take [][][] advice because I won't be able to describe it that well and there are many variations.

All I know is that I am NOT talking about the "every man for himself' stereotype of anarchism.
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piercehawkeye45
May 4 2007, 07:10 PM
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May 4 2007, 04:03 AM
piercehawkeye45
May 3 2007, 09:41 PM
Anarchy has rules, the have militias, they many other things that you probably wouldn't think they have. Do you even know what real anarchy is? And don't say a country without a government.

Seems to me we understand different things by the name "anarchist society". Could you please explain your concept of it ?



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Spain did survive a good amount of years as basically an anarchical state

It did, but look at it now. It's no longer anarchist which means, to me at least, that in the end it failed.

Take [][][] advice because I won't be able to describe it that well and there are many variations.

All I know is that I am NOT talking about the "every man for himself' stereotype of anarchism.

Anarchism doesn't mean every man for himself. In anarchism, there will still be groups (these are neccesary for human surival), but these won't have any hierarchy.

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May 4 2007, 05:24 PM
Anarchism doesn't mean every man for himself. In anarchism, there will still be groups (these are neccesary for human surival), but these won't have any hierarchy.

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I agree Dirk. Along with this, these "groups" will undoubtedly grow, and the larger they get, the more powerful they become. Wouldn't this lead to a very primative form of law or government? Example, if someone were to wrong someone else like stealing, if one of these groups were to hunt down and take action against the thief, it would be a form of policing. I don't think "true" anarchism could exist. Just like true democracy or communism never has and never will exist.
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May 4 2007, 08:08 PM
Along with this, these "groups" will undoubtedly grow, and the larger they get, the more powerful they become. Wouldn't this lead to a very primative form of law or government? Example, if someone were to wrong someone else like stealing, if one of these groups were to hunt down and take action against the thief, it would be a form of policing.

No good sir that would be raiding.
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I've got a question and it isn't a rhetorical one:
group A and B have a conflict with each. The nature of the conflict does not allow compromise or it to be ignored.(such conflicts happen often unfortunately) Usually in this case the decision how to resolve the problem would be left to judicial impartial power C ( C having a higher standing in the hierarchy of the society than either of the groups). As anarchist societies aren't supposed to have a hierarchy(?) how would A and B resolve the conflict between them without resorting to violence ? Does a battle follow and the deciding factor, who was right or wrong, be who is left standing?

And before someone starts flaming i wish to remind once more that i am ASKING.
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I've got a question and it isn't a rhetorical one:
group A and B have a conflict with each. The nature of the conflict does not allow compromise or it to be ignored.(such conflicts happen often unfortunately) Usually in this case the decision how to resolve the problem would be left to judicial impartial power C ( C having a higher standing in the hierarchy of the society than either of the groups). As anarchist societies aren't supposed to have a hierarchy(?) how would A and B resolve the conflict between them without resorting to violence ? Does a battle follow and the deciding factor, who was right or wrong, be who is left standing?

And before someone starts flaming i wish to remind once more that i am ASKING.

How they resolve the conflict? Simple. It's called discussion . That's one of those things that we differ in from most animals.

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May 5 2007, 03:13 PM
How they resolve the conflict? Simple. It's called discussion . That's one of those things that we differ in from most animals.

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You'd think so but, alas, it's all too often not true...

Sorry, I'm being overly cynical. You're right really.
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