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| Dizzarth Stumpy | May 1 2007, 02:03 AM Post #16 |
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a thorough explanation if i ever saw one.... |
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STUMPY WAS RIGHT. HIS TOUCHING SOLILOQUY HAS MOVED ME, TRULY A MANIPULATOR OF THE ENGLISH LANGUAGE. I HAVE ALLOWED HIM USAGE OF HIS PREVIOUS ACCOUNT. EHRHRHRHRNGGHH LC is the best and brought back my embarassing sex tapes. | |
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| Katastrof | May 1 2007, 02:04 AM Post #17 |
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One Of The Four Horseman
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I mean if it touches the ground, or is soiled (like dirty and unfit for flying) is it not burned in a cermony? By Commonweath I mean how Canada and Austrialia are both Commonweath nations...not British subjects... |
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| Kip1 | May 1 2007, 02:04 AM Post #18 |
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Apocalyptic Usher
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| piercehawkeye45 | May 1 2007, 02:11 AM Post #19 |
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Franklin Pierce
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I won't get too much into this because I can on forever about this but Israel does not deserve this land just like no other culture or religion deserves any land. The Palestinians were living there for over 1,000 years and to kick them out is more than a war crime. The only solution over there is the one-state solution.
The Israelites weren't the first ones there; they kicked people out 3,000 years ago just like they are doing now. |
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Dropped the atomic bomb let them know that it's real Speak soft with a big stick do what I say or be killed I'm America! I have found the enemy and he is us. | |
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| Dizzarth Stumpy | May 1 2007, 04:13 AM Post #20 |
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aye, "first" wasn't the correct word at all, but they were there before the current arabic types who they're currently displacing... |
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STUMPY WAS RIGHT. HIS TOUCHING SOLILOQUY HAS MOVED ME, TRULY A MANIPULATOR OF THE ENGLISH LANGUAGE. I HAVE ALLOWED HIM USAGE OF HIS PREVIOUS ACCOUNT. EHRHRHRHRNGGHH LC is the best and brought back my embarassing sex tapes. | |
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| Faust | May 1 2007, 07:38 AM Post #21 |
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Crazy Doctor's Apprentice
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Does it even matter who was first? The important thing is who manages to keep the land for himself. |
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I am the surcease of every pain I am the end of the mortal scope I am the trial of every soul I am the tomb of every hope | |
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| Brutus | May 1 2007, 07:05 PM Post #22 |
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Planning World Domination
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*points to self* half jewish!! anyway, the only people who have a decent claim at all are the muslims and the jews (also christians but we don't want it) and the jewish claim is much better, the creation of Israel was somthing amazing, nothing like that had ever been done, a people who had been forced to be nomadic and have no country of their own were given the land that they beleive god promised them, imagine how happy that would make those people, half the world is islamic, i am sure they can live without that tiny little slice. |
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| Khan | May 1 2007, 07:45 PM Post #23 |
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HAVE YOU HEARD OF THIS SWEET WEBSITE CALLED FOUR CHAN DOT ORG?
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My opinion. As an atheist, I see the word "Promised Land" insane as hell. We see Prince of Egypt movies, of hard working jews happy of the exodus, singing that "laylalaylay lirilaylay" stuff, but not movies of the actions later on, like annihilating cities in a row, making forced brides of virgin captives, despoiling everything, cattle and boys and men alike, making a GENOCIDE on every Gentile on the Promised land, then making the remaining ones slaves. As ordered by "Gawd"... If God exists, he must be worse than Adolf Hitler himself to allow these just because these Jews were rubbing him the true way, as opposed to others. ![]() Let the website speak for me. Many people believe that God loves all his children equally. Unfortunately the Bible tells us a different story about God's infinite love and justice. God picks and chooses who he will love and who he will hate not based on their merits or efforts but "just because" (Romans 9:13-18). God is a bigoted racist, sexist who administers unjust punishment to the handicapped, the young and the innocent. The time has come to openly protest the barbaric methods of this God and his followers. Break free of the shackles of fear and step into the light of reason. An AntiChrist Production from the Luciferian Liberation Front, People's Temple, Free Urantia. "Liberating the oppressed, one mind at a time." Re-railing... Now. If Jews have a right to Israel, (which is a dispersed Kingdom millenia ago), We must lay claim to northern China, Arabs must lay claim to Persia, Persians must lay claim to their colonies of Mediterranean, Greeks must lay claim to my own neighborhood, this goes on on on on and on. The only reason Israel is given to them is might. Political might. Jews nomads? They are a resourceful people, and since the idiot Catholic Church forbade banking a long long time ago, Jews had a grasp on the banking in Europe. They had power. Monetary power. In time, some of that power slipped to Turkey (Ottomans welcoming Sephardim), later, to America, thus controlling the U.S Media and government. Did you know that quite a few Americans openly liked Hitler and his ideas before Roosevelt managed to get the wheels of war and propaganda turning against Germany? Later, Christian Zionists (not used as derogatory, so says Wikipedia) tried to help Israel's founding, as to propel their silly little apocalyptic bullshit in motion. Not to mention Israel is against Talmud, as their Messiah isn't arrived according to their book of fairy tales. I do not deny the Holocaust, I want to see two states around Jerusalem, with the city as an autonomous government, apart from any Abrahamic religion's superior influence, but I see many horrific tales in Jewish history, making Hitler look like an amateur. Maybe they can be justified according to their times, but the media, and its continuous wave of Holocaust movies(I heard a new one is underway, with Tom Hanks) have begun to irritate, since I feel they wish to show any Jew as a golden winged angel, which is misunderstood, and/or a humble religious man who only needs a bit of tolerance. No, my dear Pro-Israel media. We are all greedy, primate-evolved, chemical ridden assholes. Including myself. |
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Wine in hand, in the other, Quran, Both halal I do and haram, In this incomplete world of a sham, Neither Pagan I am, nor Musselman! Omar Khayyam Come, come, whoever you are, Wanderer, idolater, worshipper of fire, Come even though you have broken your vows a thousand times, Come, and come yet again. Ours is not a caravan of despair Mevlana Jalaladdin Rumi | |
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| Brutus | May 1 2007, 08:08 PM Post #24 |
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Planning World Domination
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most of the stuff you said is incorrect and makes many assumptions. Nomad does not eqaul poor. god gave us freewill and the right to excersise it, so if one people enslave another then god cannot interfere because to interfere would be to remove our ability to excersise freewill and in effect remove our freewill. but lets imagine if god fixed all these problems anyway, one country plans to invade another so god comes down and patches things up, a man tries to kill his wife so god pops down and gives a little marriage counceling, a man is about to starve so god turns some rocks to bread for him. after a short time, people would become utterly and completely dependant on god for everything. you are mssing the whole point of why god made us how we are. as for your insults that god is a bigoted racist and sexist person who is completely unjust, you are making a hell of alot of assumptions, maybe he is trying but he cant do too much for reasons i stated above, maybe he isn't all powerful like you assume, maybe their is another more evil power influencing us aswell. we don't know, why don't express these views in a philosophy class and watch everyone laugh at you for being so closed minded. if all your assumptions are correct and all that stuff that the jews claim and that cartoon are also correct, would not god simply smite us all down like the cities of sodom and gemora? would he not create the perfect world for the jews rather than making them try and create it? i think the jews deserve israel because of a few reasons i beleive their claim is better (for reasons i stated in an earlier post) they are the most persecuted people in all of history, every single country in the old world has killed its share of jewish people, the Roman empire, France, England, Russia, Spain, portugal, scotland, Egypt and Germany (thats a can of worms) and countless others have all killed thousands (if not millions) of jews EACH. over the time they have been imprisoned, enslaved, massacred and someone has attempted genocide against them several times, i think they deserve a tiny , cornwall sized scrap of desert to themselves for gods sake. the muslims do have all the middle east and northern africa for themselves anyway, isn't that enough. |
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| Katastrof | May 1 2007, 08:30 PM Post #25 |
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Okay first off: The Bible: We've been through this before I think but again I'll state the case: The Bible was written by people. It was not written all at once by one author nor was it all written at the same time. Furthur more, gospels were cut from the original Bible to show a more "paganish" Christ. The Bible has alot of good things in it but also it reflects the times, opinions and prejudices of the people that wrote it. If anything you should say the people who wrote the Bible are rasist, sexist but not God. (If he exists that is, I believe he does but as we already know your opinion differs...) So F LICK off with your stupid Bible rants. *Oh note: Your picture is inaccurate, Jesus is the incorrect figure to represent that point. It'd be better if it was Moses or a God hand.... Isreal issue: No the jewish people don't deserve it, since 1) history has passed since it was their homeland and even before it was their homeland it was the Palestines anyways... 2) who cares if "Islam" has half the world? What is this a game of f'ing Risk? It doesn't matter who has what part of land. The Jewish people lost it in history long ago. That's like saying the Natives should have North America, the Italians should have all of Europe and that Mongolia should own half the world! The Arabs who kicked the Jewish people out of Canaan (or Palistine, or Isreal or whatever you call it) have long since died, so we shouldn't be punishing their children for the mistake they did. |
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| Mister Sinister | May 1 2007, 08:31 PM Post #26 |
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Delusional Granduerist
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Well, he certainly helped Moses' ass get out of Egypt. Effectively destroying the Egyptians "free-will" to enslave the Jews. I know, it's of questionable historical accuracy, but it's in the Bible. Also, when the *ahem* good people of Sodom, Gomorrah, Admah and Zeboim "free-willed" it they wound up with hot brimstone so far up their collective asses as to cause blisters on their tongues. |
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| Khan | May 1 2007, 08:48 PM Post #27 |
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HAVE YOU HEARD OF THIS SWEET WEBSITE CALLED FOUR CHAN DOT ORG?
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Not su much free will for slaves, eh? God cannot interfere? Why call him Almighty then? He is a local myth exaggarated by successful Jewish Kings like David and Solomon, get over it.
Then why even bother to create? If that Gawd was perfect, he may sit all by himself, content in his... perfectness. Even that idea is stupid by itself.
You are being enlightened step by step I see. Yes. For such evil and misery and sexism and slavery to exist, there must be at least a deity as powerful as your "Adonai". Imagine you are a small kid kidnapped and sold to underground sex industry. Your life is gone, yet that "free will of all men" is being preached everywhere. Yet your god boasts about his unlimited abilities in every holy text of his. Then he must be a liar,for there must be a dark shadow of his in the universe. I'm not assuming. It is basic logic.
What? People laughing at me for using logic? Such people are assholes worse than "closed minded" individuals. Philisophy must go on and on in asking "why" continously. Not deriding people for inferior and/or false knowledge.
Don't know. Ask him when millions of people were annihilated in countless wars, and he not guiding anybody else than his precious Jews, not Aztecs, not the Inuit, (how many of them are in Hell now because they were born so- which removes all thought in God in me). Chosen People my ass. You are not vermin like Hitler claims, but neither chosen people.
No one argues that. You must keep it, yet it seems a bit unfair to me, as we left Asia when the Chinese united and became too powerful. Should we ask them to give some land too?
Derailing the subject in this matter is rather foul. No one argues how the Catholics killed you simply for excuses as "bad harvest" and "omg u killed our lord!!11!" just to plunder your wealth. It is a fact. Proven. I say I'm enraged by the mainstream media bending over to you folks. Neither do I like Iran or the Ahmaqinedjad (pun intended). You may have Israel. As may the Palestinians have Palestine, but let Jerusalem stay alone. Christians, Jews and Muslims have an equal share to it in history. The Muslim world doesn't despise you because you are there, because you have taken Jerusalem as well. Their holy site, where "Mohammad ascended to heaven" is there. True, your temple of Solomon is there too, but you must also respect their sites, unless you are fully for "Might makes right". In this case, it's a whole other story, and far less pleasant.
Yet the words are correct. Ranting over accuracy of picture seems a bit childish. |
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Wine in hand, in the other, Quran, Both halal I do and haram, In this incomplete world of a sham, Neither Pagan I am, nor Musselman! Omar Khayyam Come, come, whoever you are, Wanderer, idolater, worshipper of fire, Come even though you have broken your vows a thousand times, Come, and come yet again. Ours is not a caravan of despair Mevlana Jalaladdin Rumi | |
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| Dizzarth Stumpy | May 1 2007, 09:40 PM Post #28 |
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that's complete and utter bullshit... you're acting like the muslim world is some sort of cohesive people and the creation of the state of isreal is just like carving off a tiny piece of their empire to give to the jews... we're talking about fucking human beings here, and no one deserves to be artificially displaced to right wrongs that happened thousands of years ago... |
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STUMPY WAS RIGHT. HIS TOUCHING SOLILOQUY HAS MOVED ME, TRULY A MANIPULATOR OF THE ENGLISH LANGUAGE. I HAVE ALLOWED HIM USAGE OF HIS PREVIOUS ACCOUNT. EHRHRHRHRNGGHH LC is the best and brought back my embarassing sex tapes. | |
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| Khan | May 1 2007, 09:53 PM Post #29 |
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HAVE YOU HEARD OF THIS SWEET WEBSITE CALLED FOUR CHAN DOT ORG?
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Unfortunately, might makes right, as Jewish influence made the Brits and Americans try to "right a wrong". Heck the people of Canaan were ruined when Moses came out of Egypt first. Moses's army literally raped the "pagan" kingdoms. Can this be Godly? What kind of horrible God is this? Could any Palestinian claim vengeance for that past horror? Not likely. Admit it. Israel exists because of the global powers are in favor of the rich, and Jews are very wealthy, and a politically powerful people. And wanted Israel. |
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Wine in hand, in the other, Quran, Both halal I do and haram, In this incomplete world of a sham, Neither Pagan I am, nor Musselman! Omar Khayyam Come, come, whoever you are, Wanderer, idolater, worshipper of fire, Come even though you have broken your vows a thousand times, Come, and come yet again. Ours is not a caravan of despair Mevlana Jalaladdin Rumi | |
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| Rhas BloodBear | May 1 2007, 09:59 PM Post #30 |
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I FUCKING SUCK AT EVERYTHING GOD DAMN
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Stumpy saying something not hateful!!? |
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