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Australian drought solution from 1966 Thunderbirds; Water and energy to the public
Topic Started: May 1 2007, 09:10 AM (966 Views)
Supervolcano10
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Ok, i'll update then. A new version that is Thermodynamic compatible [ hopefully ]

At the edge of the Australian continent around Sydney, in the 5 mile high continental cliff, sea-water enters a 500 m wide pipe with a filter so it doesn't suck in anything larger than a light-bulb. This pipe goes at an angle of 10 degrees. When the pipe passes under Sydney purified waste water will enter, and the water travels through an array of turbines. In the last 5 kilometers of the journey there will be air vents to collect any evaporation. At the end of the journey, under the Snowy Mountains, it will drop to 100 m above a collection of magma and evaporate, dumping the salt and hence being a very basic desalination plant. This evaporation will split into 5 pipelines set up with more turbines, and join any premature evaporation. If any water does not evaporate, and is boiling water, it will surge up with the steam. into 5 roofed condensation containers. The roof is in an M shape, doming upwards then dipping into an upside down precipice to contain evaporation and boiling water, so it doesn't go back down. In the side of the containers are pipes traveling downhill. These pipes combine into one on the way down. This pipeline leads to ten nuclear power stations lined up next to each other. These nuclear power stations will have ten reactors each. This massive power plant will get it's uranium and plutonium from uranium mines around the world and burn [if possible] it's radioactive waste to produce power. If it can't be burned it will be sent down a massive hole leading to the same magma pact that the evaporation desalination plant will be right above, or re-used. That would be easier. After the water has been purified and treated [i.e, if it turns into a freak water molecule the freak atom will be replaced with hydrogen atom, or it's poisoned by the radiation if something goes slightly wrong, the radiation is somehow forced out of it] it will go towards Australia's cities and deserts. There will also be a small water output along the coast to prevent severe coastal drought.

PROBLEMS NOT COVERED - SOLUTION
1.Ordinary turbines might not work -1. Steam turbines are used, and the pipeline is downhill.

2.H2O not advised reactor coolant -2.Advised cooland will be used. This may not be a problem.

3.Animals and people can die -3. Only in meltdown. Ordinary radiation will be contained.

4.Friction might destroy the pipes -4.The pipes will be very secure, water is a fantastic lubricant
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Kip1
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One word:Chernobyl

Nuclear Power just isnt a feasible technology to apply its to dangerous desalination plants have to be NEAR the sea as well to get the water{duh!}
Second:Why Smurf! up the land that makes our country one of the most travelled in the world? meltdown or not radioactive waste is -MORE LETHAL- than radiactive particles them seles and wear could we stash it? the radioactive waste produced takes tens of thousands of years just so anyone can go near it let alone touch it

And erm..ever though about the cost of ten nuclear power plants? the technology is more expensive than its worth and really,one stuff up and thats our water suply screwed ten times over

Sorry mate but to me its a bad idea{but its a fairly origional one i'll give ya that}
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You're right.. There could be a massive nuclear meltdown contaminating our water supply. But the chances of an all out meltdown would probably the chance of a supervolcanic eruption. It is possible, still, chances are probably 1 hundred thousand, or 2 million to one. It probably won't be built until at least 22nd century, if at all. And even if there was a meltdown, there would be sensors all over the plant and outside it that would cut the water supply at both ends and shut the power plant down at the instant of an emergency, or it could be cut off by radio broadcast. If nothing happens, it's turned back on. If the cloud of radiation was too big we would evacuate all cities in New South Wales, Victoria, South Australia and Queensland, since the radiation cloud could be detected. With the waste: incinerate it in the earth's core.
Also, you're not really listening. The water is travelling downhill from a grill gated, 500 m wide pipe full of turbines, and evaporating at the end. This dumps the salt and other impurities. The water travels into the plant as water vapour up a shaft which splits into five. After it goes through the ten power plants and goes to the rest of Australia it could possibily produce 30 terawatts a month. 1 reactor in the 21st century [i.e. now] can produce 300 gigawatts per month. There's 100 reactors in this thing - and it's built in the 22n century, 2100-2200. That adds up to 30,000 gigawatts - 30 terawatts - of power per month, probably enough to power Australia by itself. And the spare power could be sold to other countries in power shortages. Same with the water. If it blows up - we'll still be using the original power and water sources in the non contaminated areas. So there'll be water restrictions again, the middle of Australia will be desert again, and basically Australia wil be mostly back to normal. There probably won't be a very big radiation cloud anyway, and only Sydney would have the deadly possibility of contamination. It was bound to be burnt to a crisp by a firestorm anyway, and only 10 million people have to move. Not a very big biggie. You know what? You call what I call a half full glass a half empty glass. Look for the positives and don't just burrow in here for the negatives.


P.S What's Smurf?
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Yes some great positives
And no sensors in the world can prevent our water suply from being screwed over by some idiot stuffing up the reactor.No matter how good the technology is i just dont trust it with the shit we drink

and Smurf! is the forum censor for the f-word {f*ck*}

Oh and INCINERATE IT IN THE EARTHS CORE?? HAVE YOU ANY SMURFING! IDEA HOW FUCKING FAR WE'D HAVE TO DRILL?!!!!!
ONLY TEN MILLION DEAD IN A HUGE FECKING FIRESTORM? sweet jesus man you ARE stupider than i thought
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Now i know you really are fuc- oh *ahem* smurfing, my idea. I'm sorry if you are an anti-nuclear guy, just if so you don't need to be posting in this thread, I understand how you're feeling. Also, This place wil have as heavy security as Alcatraz. An electric wire fence with an electronic gate which can only be opened by a certain key, and mechanical permission from inside. Then, after walking 100 meters you'd have to have a special hand-print. No one would want - or could - destroy the nuclear power station.
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No not fucking the thread merely admiring your incredible brain power
I mean the core we are going to incinerate said waste in is ONLY two hundred thousand miles deeper than the worlds deepest mine shaft
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thanks. I just thought you were trying to stuff my thread. Sorry. Well, I meant dump it in the nearest-to-the-surface lacolith of magma, or in the mantle. The world's biggest mine shaft went down a decent 7 miles- just a lil bit more and they could have hit the mantle. Yeah, ur right... 200,000 km from the surface to the goddamn core. Lol , more like 6378.
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Not to mention our drills would be smurfed before they even get anywere near the magma
Nice idea but needs a lot more research better tech and a truckload of gold bars to cover the cost
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Cost can be covered by sale. Truckloads of golden energy... We could power Australia and $ell the exess power and water. Cost: $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ Income [roughly]: $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ And we can store the waste. Build a huge building somewhere unknown and secret [say, 5 km unerground sounds good] And when the building fills up with it, we take it out [safely mind you]
and launch it all into space [course, that would cost millions]. We can pay for it with our $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ . lol. It would be more developed technologywise in the 22nd century, better than that 1960s too-basic crap. I might develop a model in a few years. I'm [sort of] planning to do an eperiment in my backyard with my friends which involves the classic Mint Mentos and Diet Coke trick ten times over, Ammonium Nitrate and Dichromate, carbon dioxide liquid foam, fire explosions, supervolcano experiments and a mighty big hole in a burning backyard. BOOM. Amonnium Dichromate meteors raining from the sky, ash cloud going 2 km high... Wtf? I'm going off topic here... Well, i just hope the leakage can be contained... And, if it's made by the next solar maximum [not the one in 2011, the one after that] and Perfect Disaster's Solar Storm happens, than we shut off the nuclear plant for the duration of the Coronal Mass Ejection's Electro Magnetic Pulse, then start up power again and sell the excess power to everywhere else on the planet if we joined power lines to them. We'd be rich off a disaster by saving the world. Cool eh?
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Earhquakes,water and radioactive leakage
and the energy generated would probably overload the national electricity grid
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Out to everyone: Please tell me about anything that could go wrong and a solution [if you can find it] I don't want it to be a trash idea. But keep in mind that I want to stick to the original idea "Use water with nuclear power and pump it into the earth's deserts"
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