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Humanitarian Takeover
Topic Started: May 7 2007, 04:09 AM (1,042 Views)
Kett
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Could someone manage to take over a country through humanitarian efforts?

I mean, could someone help people so much that no one notices that their critics keep...dying

Would it be possible?
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If you own the people then you own the nation.
It would be very possible, but their government would be trying there best to keep control over the citizens too. Fear seems to be a popular choice for governments so if you can find a way around that then sure.
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maybe you could feed, clothe and help the people, be their savior, make them love you and then found a political party and run for president/prime minister or whatever they have.

they would definatly vote for you if you claim youi can bring even more aid if you're the leader of their country.

would that work?
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May 7 2007, 02:00 PM
maybe you could feed, clothe and help the people, be their savior, make them love you and then found a political party and run for president/prime minister or whatever they have.

they would definatly vote for you if you claim youi can bring even more aid if you're the leader of their country.

would that work?

It would work until they discover that you don't have the resources to back up a bunch of promises you made on the campaign trail. Then, it would be just like every other "sweet talking" politician, buried in their own shit.
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it might work if you were incredibly rich (like. . . Multi-billionair rich) but that means that only a select few could ever use that plan.
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Depends on how efficient that particular country's media is.
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it would have to be very poor, quite big, with a small population spread over a large Area

what about The Central African Republic? quite big, has vurtually no media or news and it has a GDP of only 4 billion, meaning any multi billionair could easily double or even triple it, making everyone in the country several times richer, everyone would vote for someone who did that and if you have a massive majority vote in a african country it is quite easy to make yourself dictator.

or if your seriously rich (as in tens of billions) you could try the republic of Chad, much bigger, much larger population, much bigger GDP, but same per capita wealth and vurtually no news or media and its a country which sounds very insignificant meaning that the majority of people around the world won't be too bothered about a new dictator in town.
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Well I was thinking about Hitler. He started doing this before his racism was revealed.

So, what if Hitler had not been racist and had instead after taking France had helped build it even better. Instead of trying to take out Stalin.

I also remember "Bread and circus"

Keep people well fed and entertained and you can get away with almost anything.
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So, what if Hitler had not been racist and had instead after taking France had helped build it even better. Instead of trying to take out Stalin.


If Hitler would have taken that route, then Germany could have, over a period of time, became one of the biggest empires.....ever. Just think of a peaceful, unified Germany around that time. It is an interesting thought, but unfortunatley for Europe, history created a more turbulant set of events.

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Very true, as long as it stays that way.
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to be Honest, if hitler wasn't racist then eastern europe would have been quite happy under his heel.
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It seems insane that he went after Stalin but in reality, everyone knew he had no choice. It would have been a simple matter of time before Stalin steamed in there to squeeze the life out of the already entrenched Nazis.
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The United States 'controlled' (in a more insidious way) certain European countries following the Second World War after bailing them out with humanitarian aid. Still, you might think that that was only fair...

As for the Hitler thang (again...what is it with this forum ;)), yes, I imagine he would have had to confront Stalin at some point. And I'm still not convinced that he (Hitler) was all that.
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Could? It is happening as we speak.

Look how Hezbollah and other resistance forces got support. Besides fighting against the Israelis, Hezbollah funds hundreds of millions of dollars in social services to help southern Lebanon when the state can’t provide assistance. They provide food, clothing, health services, and education to the poor so they have the support of the people since no one else is looking out for them.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hezbollah#Social_services

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According to CNN: "Hezbollah did everything that a government should do, from collecting the garbage to running hospitals and repairing schools." In July 2006, during the war with Israel, when there was no running water in Beirut, Hezbollah was arranging supplies around the city. "People here [in South Beirut] see Hezbollah as a political movement and a social service provider as much as it is a militia, in this traditionally poor and dispossessed Shiite community." Also after the war it competes with the Lebanon government to reconstruct destroyed area. According to analysts like American University Professor Judith Swain Harik, Jihad al-Binaa has won the initial battle of hearts and minds in large part because they are the most experienced in the reconstruction field in Lebanon.

That is why Hezbollah is so popular in southern Lebanon.
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May 8 2007, 02:50 AM
Well I was thinking about Hitler. He started doing this before his racism was revealed.

Eh? Point to me a single time in Hitler's demagogy when he wasn't openly anti-Jewish. (Hint: this is not possible.)
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May 7 2007, 10:46 PM
Kett
May 8 2007, 02:50 AM
Well I was thinking about Hitler. He started doing this before his racism was revealed.

Eh? Point to me a single time in Hitler's demagogy when he wasn't openly anti-Jewish. (Hint: this is not possible.)

The Nazis tried running as anti-semetics but didn't win any seats this way. So they went the humanitarian route. Invented super highways, the olympic torch, and plenty of over stuff.

Once he became chancellor of Germany (Thankyou Hindenburg...) he arranged for the Reichstag building (their parliment) to be partially burned. He blamed the commies and was granted emergency dictorial powers for 4 years. He used the powers to pull Germany out of the depression without BS commities and endless paperwork. This was when he began to reveal his racism. Because of how well he pulled the country out of depression, no one cared what he was doing to the Jews.

And once he had the Jews under control, he went after the Slavs.

get lurned history
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