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Time Paradox; What if we created ourselves?
Topic Started: Nov 2 2007, 05:08 PM (4,547 Views)
justin
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the only thing I can think of is each time you travel through time, it "refreshes itself" and since you're the one going through time you're the only one that notices it. so if you tell yourself to go back in time two days to that point when you tell him to go back in time, you wouldn't see him come unless you travel in time again. then if you do, there's going to be like four duplicates there and would definatly cause a problem.

for some reason that doesn't really cut it for me that the "timeline" magically knows to do that [refresh] but it's the easiest theory to explain. plus it doesn't contradict anything.

edit: I thought this was interesting: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UAWB4IUc844

edit:

Apparently what i've described is a relative resolution for a time paradox:

"It could be that the universe does not have an absolute timeline that is permanently written after events happen (or, in the deterministic view, at the start of time). Instead, each particle has its own timeline and therefore, humans have their own timeline. This might be considered similar to the theory of relativity, except that it deals with a particle's history, rather than its velocity.

Physical forces affect physical particles. If your body's physical particles go back in time, you will be able to kill your grandfather (no physical forces will mystically stop you), and nothing will physically happen to you as a result, because there are no physical forces that can "figure out" what happened and this new timeline develops, because the universe simply has no mechanism for unmaking it. Your younger self does not need to be born in order to fulfill a destiny of going back in time, because there is no written-in-stone absolute timeline that needs to be followed. If you were able to find and observe the younger versions of the particles that make you up, they too would follow physical laws and hence wouldn't form into a younger version of you (because one of your parents wouldn't be there to form you).

This theory is similar to the parallel universes theory, except that it happens within one universe. If parallel universes cannot interact again after time travel occurs, then essentially the parallel universe resolution and the relative timelines resolution are the same as there is no way of proving a parallel universe still exists or ever did exist.
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taken from Wikipedia.
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seanbo646
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Simski
Nov 2 2007, 05:08 PM
Since I'm not to keen on the idea of the big bang, since there is no telling what created it.
This is my own hypothesis of how we might have done something terribly wrong/right in the future.

As you may be aware time travel have been on the minds of people for a long time, and in a near future just this might be possible.
My theory on this is simply what if something went terribly wrong when mankind attempted to create a device to travel through time ending up sending the whole universe back in time colliding with the universe existing back then to later on create us all over.
Well something like that, you see what I mean right?
My theory is most likely flawed so I will stay with calling it a hypothesis.

But I simply don't like the idea of how there was a time when nothing existed, and to me it would all make more sense it created itself later in it's own existence.

See examples such as
SPOILER WARNING: Harry Potter and the prisoner of Askaban when Harry thought he had been saved from the dementors by his father, but later on when he traveled back in to the same spot that he had been rescued he found that it wasn't his father that saved his life.
It was Harry's future self who had cast the spell to banish the dementors.
SPOILER END.

Or in the episode of Spongebob where the octopus character (I don't watch it often so I'm unaware of his name) where annoyed by Spongebob and Patrick running around trying to catch jellyfish and commented on that the creator of jelly hunting must have been the dumbest person that ever existed.
When he later on travels back in time to where Spongebob's and Patrick's ancestors where cavement, he is annoyed by them just actingstupid and gives them a hove and tells them to go catch jellies.

Note that I'm no way a fan of neither Harry Potter nor Spongebob, but I do have 3 younger half relatives... or whatever I shall call them.
And one younger sister.

. . .

SNAPE KILLS DUMBLEDORE >:3
It Cant Be Possible Its Like Terminater How They Are Trying To Kill Him As A Baby You Know it Had to start from somewhere humanity actually had to have been created by something else other wise we never could have existed to create our selves you know?
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justin
Jan 26 2008, 07:30 PM
the only thing I can think of is each time you travel through time, it "refreshes itself" and since you're the one going through time you're the only one that notices it. so if you tell yourself to go back in time two days to that point when you tell him to go back in time, you wouldn't see him come unless you travel in time again. then if you do, there's going to be like four duplicates there and would definatly cause a problem.

for some reason that doesn't really cut it for me that the "timeline" magically knows to do that [refresh] but it's the easiest theory to explain. plus it doesn't contradict anything.

edit: I thought this was interesting: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UAWB4IUc844

edit:

Apparently what i've described is a relative resolution for a time paradox:

"It could be that the universe does not have an absolute timeline that is permanently written after events happen (or, in the deterministic view, at the start of time). Instead, each particle has its own timeline and therefore, humans have their own timeline. This might be considered similar to the theory of relativity, except that it deals with a particle's history, rather than its velocity.

Physical forces affect physical particles. If your body's physical particles go back in time, you will be able to kill your grandfather (no physical forces will mystically stop you), and nothing will physically happen to you as a result, because there are no physical forces that can "figure out" what happened and this new timeline develops, because the universe simply has no mechanism for unmaking it. Your younger self does not need to be born in order to fulfill a destiny of going back in time, because there is no written-in-stone absolute timeline that needs to be followed. If you were able to find and observe the younger versions of the particles that make you up, they too would follow physical laws and hence wouldn't form into a younger version of you (because one of your parents wouldn't be there to form you).

This theory is similar to the parallel universes theory, except that it happens within one universe. If parallel universes cannot interact again after time travel occurs, then essentially the parallel universe resolution and the relative timelines resolution are the same as there is no way of proving a parallel universe still exists or ever did exist.
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taken from Wikipedia.
But You Never no paradoxes Might Actually not exist and every past event we change could have always have been there in the first place :D
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