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Me and this guy have a problem I guess.
Topic Started: May 30 2012, 04:35 PM (346 Views)
iCraftingMRN
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Hey guys,

Sorry in advance but I just have to bring this up.

For the past week me and whiteout have been argueing a lot.
Which usually wouldn't be a big deal but for some reason he got mad at me (I honestly don't know why).
Whiteout was 'living' in my base for the past 2/3 weeks or so (can't remember how long exactly),
and I told him aslong as you're being nice to me I'll let you stay in my base.
At first he did, everything went well and it was all good but then we started argueing a lot as stated above.
I told whiteout after he got mad that he could leave (I didn't ask him nice but not rude either).
After I kicked him out he started ignoring me which wasn't really a big deal to me but everytime when I was talking to someone else he would say something stupid,
that didn't have anything to do with the conversation I was having with the other person.
Mostly I wouldn't mind that and just look the other way but today when I was talking to TKO I asked: how'd you get rich? (I asked him that because he said: I am rich (minecraft wise?)).
TKO said: I sold stuff. I asked: What did you sell?
Whiteout just had to type this: Your mother
and after that a ''<3'' sign.

Now here is my problem with this; Whiteout already proved to me that he didn't want to talk to me, that he doesn't like me and certainly that we are not friends.
I could understand the ''joke'' (or whatever I should call this) coming from a friend. NOT from some guy that has been ignoring me for a few days.
So I told him that he shouldn't joke like that about someones family.
after a little while of argueing he said: ''You always let the most small and little things get on your nerves/get to you.
So at first I told him: Yes, because you always say stupid stuff when I am in a conversation with someone else, and it never has anything to to with you.
But then I realized that what he said wasn't just a ''small'' thing. He said after I asked what TKO sold that he sold my mom, which is simply saying that my mom is a whore, for obvious reasons I think he should apologize because he just doesn't seem to understand that saying something like that can be hurtfull.

Sorry for being such a bitch about this on the forums but this kid has been bugging me for days and days I just had to say something about it especially after this thanks.

And Whiteout; I don't think there is anything wrong with you but maybe chose someone else to joke around with, I don't have to and I will not take this shit.

Thanks guys, if you read it all much appreciated and again; sorry for being a bitch about it.



-Craft,
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I could post a huge thing about how I really respect mothers and all, but at this point the term "your mother" especially in the sense made by whiteout was in no way trying to cause harm to your mother or to disrespect her in any way and it is somewhat similar to some other racial comments often made over the internet that have been discussed before. But at this point Craft, it really just seems like you are trying to get whiteout in trouble over something so small. I'm sure at least once you have said your mother to someone else, even if you haven't the term has been used many times on the server before and no one went as far as to post a huge thread about it. If whiteout is bothering you, pm an admin/moderator or just try to work it out by yourselves, but bringing a huge thread like this to the forums will only cause more drama.

This is my point of view on this, but I'm not really a mother so I honestly don't know how it may affect those like sassy or such. But me personally if someone over the internet said your mom to me I would just let it go past me, because honestly I don't care what someone over the internet who doesn't actually know my mom thinks of her. On the other hand I cannot stand people that joke about the death of moms as that is not anything remotely funny, and if he did joke about something like that then I would have a totally different point of view.
Edited by Fantom, May 30 2012, 05:34 PM.
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I think it might have been wise to post this to a admin before making it public, hope this gets worked out between you two.
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May 30 2012, 04:54 PM
I could post a huge thing about how I really respect mothers and all, but at this point the term "your mother" especially in the sense made by whiteout was in no way trying to cause harm to your mother or to disrespect her in any way and it is somewhat similar to some other racial comments often made over the internet that have been discussed before. But at this point Craft, it really just seems like you are trying to get whiteout in trouble over something so small. I'm sure at least once you have said your mother to someone else, even if you haven't the term has been used many times on the server before and no one went as far as to post a huge thread about it. If whiteout is bothering you, pm an admin/moderator or just try to work it out by yourselves, but bringing a huge thread like this to the forums will only cause more drama. This is my point of view on this, but I'm not really a mother so I honestly don't know how it may affect those like sassy or such. But me personally if someone over the internet said your mom to me I would just let it go past me, because honestly I don't care what someone over the internet who doesn't actually know my mom thinks of her. On the other hand I cannot stand people that joke about the death of moms as that is not anything remotely funny, and if he did joke about something like that then I would have a totally different point of view.
I know what you mean and maybe a huge post was ''too much''.
I have to say; I don't want whiteout to get into trouble like banning him or what ever (and I know that will never happen), but since the beginning of him and me argueing it seems like he always needs to insult me and usually I would laugh at it because it's just someone from the internet like you said but in this case I see the server and the people that play on it as a big community and I always try to respect everyone that's on it equally, therefore I wouldn't joke about someones Family or insult them especially because I don't know them (atleast I try to)

In all honesty; I never joke to anyone about their mother so in this case NO. I have never said ''your mother'' to someone, I know that it is easy to say but in this case it's true. I don't like it when people talk about my family and especially not my mom or dad, I can go into some whiny detail about why but I don't find that to be nessecary on the internet.

It's easy to say that it is a 'small' thing but honestly it's not, not for everyone and especially not when that someone who said it to you wasn't nice to you in the first place, has been annoying and ignoring you for the past couple of days

Fixing it with him doesn't seem to work, I've tried I asked him why he was mad, he didn't respond or just said something stupid or even logged off

Whatever point of view you or anyone else have on it won't change my view on it, I didn't like it for personal reasons and I just wanted to share this because the Discussion forum is for anything, maybe I should've contacted an admin or mod first, maybe I shouldn't because this way he will really see that stuff like this can be annoying and most off all can hurt people their feelings.

anyway thanks for commenting, I appreciate seeing opinions of others on it, but I had to share it. My bad.

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iCraftingMRN
May 30 2012, 05:13 PM
Fantom
May 30 2012, 04:54 PM
I could post a huge thing about how I really respect mothers and all, but at this point the term "your mother" especially in the sense made by whiteout was in no way trying to cause harm to your mother or to disrespect her in any way and it is somewhat similar to some other racial comments often made over the internet that have been discussed before. But at this point Craft, it really just seems like you are trying to get whiteout in trouble over something so small. I'm sure at least once you have said your mother to someone else, even if you haven't the term has been used many times on the server before and no one went as far as to post a huge thread about it. If whiteout is bothering you, pm an admin/moderator or just try to work it out by yourselves, but bringing a huge thread like this to the forums will only cause more drama. This is my point of view on this, but I'm not really a mother so I honestly don't know how it may affect those like sassy or such. But me personally if someone over the internet said your mom to me I would just let it go past me, because honestly I don't care what someone over the internet who doesn't actually know my mom thinks of her. On the other hand I cannot stand people that joke about the death of moms as that is not anything remotely funny, and if he did joke about something like that then I would have a totally different point of view.
I know what you mean and maybe a huge post was ''too much''.
I have to say; I don't want whiteout to get into trouble like banning him or what ever (and I know that will never happen), but since the beginning of him and me argueing it seems like he always needs to insult me and usually I would laugh at it because it's just someone from the internet like you said but in this case I see the server and the people that play on it as a big community and I always try to respect everyone that's on it equally, therefore I wouldn't joke about someones Family or insult them especially because I don't know them (atleast I try to)

In all honesty; I never joke to anyone about their mother so in this case NO. I have never said ''your mother'' to someone, I know that it is easy to say but in this case it's true. I don't like it when people talk about my family and especially not my mom or dad, I can go into some whiny detail about why but I don't find that to be nessecary on the internet.

It's easy to say that it is a 'small' thing but honestly it's not, not for everyone and especially not when that someone who said it to you wasn't nice to you in the first place, has been annoying and ignoring you for the past couple of days

Fixing it with him doesn't seem to work, I've tried I asked him why he was mad, he didn't respond or just said something stupid or even logged off

Whatever point of view you or anyone else have on it won't change my view on it, I didn't like it for personal reasons and I just wanted to share this because the Discussion forum is for anything, maybe I should've contacted an admin or mod first, maybe I shouldn't because this way he will really see that stuff like this can be annoying and most off all can hurt people their feelings.

anyway thanks for commenting, I appreciate seeing opinions of others on it, but I had to share it. My bad.

You do make very good points, but much like you my opinion won't change either. Me personally, I was about to just delete this thread, but I didn't because maybe I was missing a point here and I don't want to just mute a situation that may really disturb you. But in reality my thoughts on this is that it breaks rule 3/4; if the only comment made was "your mom" then I honestly don't think its that big a deal and you should grow thick skin about it. (again I'd like to mention the great amount of respect for moms out there, and people that use "your mom" are either ignorant or not thinking, even though I admit to using it a few times and yea, I wasn't really thinking about it at the time.)

If you are really going to take offense to someone that you don't even know, saying "your mom" to you and doesn't even know your mom then maybe the internet isn't the right place for you; because much more hurtful things will be said over the internet, not necessarily in this community. But people are just like that and you will have to live with it :/.

I believe there is some sort of ignore option in the game to use, and I suggest using it. If I'm wrong then just ignore him the good ol' fashion way, or like you said after him seeing this he will realize the damage he has caused you and stop. Like I said previously if he was doing it because something was wrong with your mom, he was intentionally trying to point out something wrong with your family, or he was joking about dead family members that is a whole different story, but here it seems very harmless and just somebody not exactly thinking about what they say or just trying to be annoying.
Edited by Fantom, May 30 2012, 05:33 PM.
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''if the only comment made was "your mom" then I honestly don't think its that big a deal and you should grow thick skin about it'':

It was not the only thing he said, atleast not if you look at all the days that we have been argueing. I honestly don't remember all of it because like I said usually stuff like this doesn't offend me. But this stuck with me for personal reasons which I don't feel the need for the share with everyone here. ''you should grow thick skin about it''.... I don't really know what you try to say with this. I already said that I wouldn't normally care but some stuff should not be said not by anyone it's the same as joking with people about diseases maybe my brother had cancer and someone said something he thought was funny about cancer and involved my brother in it than for you it might not be 'that big of a deal' but to me it would be.


''If you are really going to take offense to someone that you don't even know, saying "your mom" to you and doesn't even know your mom then maybe the internet isn't the right place for you'':

I know, and as I stated above.. I usually don't care and I've seen a lot worse on the internet and I wouldn't care but in this case we are a community we don't have to like eachother but it would be good if everyone just had a little respect for eachother, I don't believe that whiteout is a bad guy, I still have respect for him because he once was a nice guy to me so don't get me wrong.

''I believe there is some sort of ignore option in the game to use, and I suggest using it'':

I will thanks for the suggestion! :)

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Bro, I wasn't trying to make fun of moms out there. It's a joke that most of the people I know, know it, and use it when they feel like it. I wasn't trying to offend you, hint why I said "<3". It was only a day that I didn't talk to you, same with TKO.

Sorry you had to make a big deal about this and get an admin involved.

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Also, I'd like to say that I have a sick wicked sense of humor.
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Did this incident take place, or have to do with the PvP server?
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It was in the real world.
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Isn't there a /ignore <playername> command on minecraft?
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May 30 2012, 07:39 PM
Isn't there a /ignore <playername> command on minecraft?
Yes, I will use that I guess.

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May 30 2012, 06:44 PM
Also, I'd like to say that I have a sick wicked sense of humor.
Then I'd like to say; keep your wicked sense of humor to you and your close friends, people might not appreciate the jokes like it clearly shows in this post.

saying: Sorry you had to make a big deal about this and get an admin involved.
doesn't make it any better eventhough I don't even think that you want it any better.
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I have 2 things to say:

Whiteout - Rule 1. Don't be a douche bag.

Craft - Rule 3. Stop being so fucking sensitive about shit.

Done and done.
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Sassy wins.. /end thread
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