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Topic Started: Aug 26 2010, 11:42 PM (1,673 Views)
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Sep 5 2010, 09:18 PM
Heskey an international player was ridiculus totally agree with you Gary along with the whole nation apart from Capello!!!
Bit harsh on Walcott though playing for england as his potential is there for all to see. Hes about one of the few players along with Rodwell who could be the real deal in the future. I would more worry about donkeys like Gareth Barry, Jagielka etc who are not up to the task of playing for the country.

Spain have done well recently as they have a good crop of players who all play for Barca as you say although as you mention Giggs (wales), scholes (international retired) and Valencia (columbia) are all not english/not available unfortunately for England. English clubs cannot rely on english players at the moment as there is not enough good enough to play champions league level which is why Man utd buy foreigners with all there vast wealth. That being said Rooney's goalscoring record at international level is still superb so I cant really understand your point on that one?
I think England are just missing a truly world class player ever since Gazza retired. We have no problem beating the patsies in qualifiers but when it comes to the main tournament thats a totally different story...

Glen Johnson isnt that bad either is her? who would you play right back instead of him?
Micah Richards?
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JuveFC
Sep 5 2010, 09:18 PM
Heskey an international player was ridiculus totally agree with you Gary along with the whole nation apart from Capello!!!
Bit harsh on Walcott though playing for england as his potential is there for all to see. Hes about one of the few players along with Rodwell who could be the real deal in the future. I would more worry about donkeys like Gareth Barry, Jagielka etc who are not up to the task of playing for the country.

Spain have done well recently as they have a good crop of players who all play for Barca as you say although as you mention Giggs (wales), scholes (international retired) and Valencia (columbia) are all not english/not available unfortunately for England. English clubs cannot rely on english players at the moment as there is not enough good enough to play champions league level which is why Man utd buy foreigners with all there vast wealth. That being said Rooney's goalscoring record at international level is still superb so I cant really understand your point on that one?
I think England are just missing a truly world class player ever since Gazza retired. We have no problem beating the patsies in qualifiers but when it comes to the main tournament thats a totally different story...

Glen Johnson isnt that bad either is her? who would you play right back instead of him?
Micah Richards?
crikey the form hes been in this season and last, really?? probably is the only viable option though.
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Hello, guys!

Well, I think Julio Baptista is not qualifyied for the national team. But in Europa they seams to love him. He is allways playing in good teams, I don't really understand that...about Lucas, in my opinion is a little bit different story. Lucas is a young player and in 2008 was chosen the best player in Brasil, including forwards, ofensive midfielders, etc...and I think he was 19 years old. I think with Mano Menezes in charge he will be back in his best moments.
About Julio Cesar, thats funny. When he played here, we never thought he could be our main goalkeeper. But he really convinced us, made excelent matches (except against Holand...).
I think we have a point here. Today the national teams arrives to World Cup like a set of good players...not like a team. In my opinion, that hapens since WC 90, on Italy. Before that, the national leagues finished before and there was more time for the national teams train their players. And so a team was formed. But today, unfortunatelly, the world cup is not a nice competition to watch. 90% of the matches is terrible...Football is a team sport, not individual and you need training. Our best players now arrives injured, or don't even go to the WC...I think the business is disturbing the game. Today is all about money.
And you said something curious: about the england team. Every WC, England is allways considered one of the favourites here in Brasil. We allways created a great expectation to see playing together Lampard, Gerrard, Beckham, Cole, Rooney, Scholes...and we never saw a good match. How can be posible if they are all good players? I think the fact they play out of their positions is important, but more importantly is the lack of training.
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JuveFC, Glen Johnson is alright but he's not a right back. He does alright going forward but he is rubbish defending. We may as well play a right winger at right back, they would be about as effective. The problem is we don't really have anybody to replace him which is a big problem.

The thing with England Jose is we aren't as good as we think we are. There is no doubt that Rooney, Gerrard, Lampard etc are very good football players but they are a rubbish team. There is no balance and no tactics. We play a 4-4-2 whether we are playing Brazil or Benidorm and if things don't work we play the long ball to Crouch. Our idea of possession football is passing the ball around defence. I've never seen matches where the central defenders touch the ball so much! Since Beckham stopped getting into the team regularly we've not had a good free kick or corner taker and we have lost our aerial threat because 9/10 of the crosses go along the floor or over everyones head. That is a big goal threat gone right there. You may be able to pass the ball through the silly teams like Andorra and Estonia in qualifying but when you play a team that knows what they are doing like Germany we get beaten 4-0. I would play a 4-3-3 type of position with the team of Hart, G Johnson(even though I don't like him), Ferdinand, Terry, A Cole, Milner, Carrick, Gerrard, J Cole, A Johnson, Rooney. Rooney plays as a lone striker with Gerrard just off him, J Cole and A Johnson as wingers with Milner and Carrick in the middle. If things go badly, Lampard and Defoe can come on to change things. If Gerrard and Lampard have to work to get into the team they might play well, at the moment they know that they will both be in the team even if they play rubbish.

Of course it doesn't help England that every time an England match comes up the press decide to release a story about their private lives.
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Hello, Gary
yes, that's right...the press just loves stories about players private lifes. Tha case between Terry and Bridge certainly was strong in England, because the repercussion was big here too. When Beckham was playing the stories about him or his wife was in the midia everytime.
But is not a brittish privilege: the french midia also loves that. After world cup many stories about players and women was published.
I think the press is very irresponsable. But people likes to read that trash, so...imposible to make them stop.
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Hey Jose,

Now we'e got questions over Wayne Rooney's private life


Have any of the brazil players been questioned in the papers over their private life

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Hello, Arsenal2000 and Laccy, thank you!!!

MasterCoreyOfMatchAttax: It's very difficult that kind of subject here. Recently we have 2 cases, but that was serious charges: Adriano (now in AC ROMA) and his friends drug dealers and the worst of all, Bruno, goalkeeper of Flamengo, in now in prision, accused of killing his mistress who was pregnant by him.
But something about wifes/lovers or something else is not usual here.
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Hey Jose,

Did they get banned by the national team, I bet you was disappointed how Brazil did in the world cup! I cant talk Because England Did Rubbish To!

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Hello, mastergladiatus and footymadwill, thanks!! Yes, it's my second week joined.
MasterCoreyOfMatchAttax: certainly, nobody here (including me) liked the way Brasil had played on WC. We know we have better players not present in Africa who could have done better. But now is in the past, We expected our new coach Mano Menezes could be more inteligent and select the right players for 2014...
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José Otávio
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Hello, Arsenal2000 and Laccy, thank you!!!

MasterCoreyOfMatchAttax: It's very difficult that kind of subject here. Recently we have 2 cases, but that was serious charges: Adriano (now in AC ROMA) and his friends drug dealers and the worst of all, Bruno, goalkeeper of Flamengo, in now in prision, accused of killing his mistress who was pregnant by him.
But something about wifes/lovers or something else is not usual here.
Wow!!! I never knew footballers did these things!!!! The Story about Bruno wasn't publicised in England that well!!!! If Rooney killed his wife, that would be the biggest story of the year!!!!!!
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yeah, that story is terrible. Bruno is in prision; Hes wife help him in the crime. The girl who died is his mistress...and he also has a girlfriend...his life is very very very complicarted. For real, the dead girl is missing. Many hypotheses emerged, but the police is convinced he and 2 friends killed her and gave the body to the dogs eat (He also criate pittbuls); Then they took the bones and cemented in a wall. The problem is: nobody found a bone for now and there is no conclusive evidences. So, it won't be surprise if He got free in one year (because here the justice is slow; otherwise, he probably already would be free...)
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