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Pics of Autograph proof I found unexpectedly!
Topic Started: Apr 24 2013, 03:38 PM (1,194 Views)
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Was browsing though some articles online and unexpectedly stumbled upon this picture of RVP with a guy behind holding the stack of RVP Futera autos which I believe he asked RVP to sign just before. Considering that 2013 has already been released, I wonder which collection these autos will be a part of :shrug
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Hahahaha thats unbelievable! Great find, so Futera dealers go out at 5.30! Thats dedication!
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I thought that Futera said they do not have dealers ? Is that a way they get items signed, wow , really professional ,stalking players instead of organizing signing session.
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Looks like the cards are already signed and they have just left the signing session. Never read anywhere that Futera have said they have dealers to get autographs.
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Sorry but there is NO way Futera could arrange signing sessions with all those players? They must have dealers. Everyone just think. A hour signing session would be £1000's. A dealer would cost £300 a week to get around 300 cards signed..
The Americans arrange signing sessions BECAUSE the market for cards is huge!

I know what i'd rather do. Futera want to make money, not blow it all on flash footballers wanting a grand for 5 minutes.
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We couldnt be sure,maybe it is just an ordinary Man Utd fan asking Robin Van persie wether it is his real signature or not on the card or maybe he is collecting manchester united player auto cards and giving them to the players.
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Sorry Cjchelsea, ref clown was not for you.
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haha thats fine. I just think Futera will have to have dealers to get all the cards signed.
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Apr 24 2013, 04:24 PM
Sorry but there is NO way Futera could arrange signing sessions with all those players? They must have dealers. Everyone just think. A hour signing session would be £1000's. A dealer would cost £300 a week to get around 300 cards signed..
The Americans arrange signing sessions BECAUSE the market for cards is huge!

I know what i'd rather do. Futera want to make money, not blow it all on flash footballers wanting a grand for 5 minutes.
Then their cards must not have and will NEVER have value like any AUTHENTIC card. Simple as that. EVERYONE can get signed cards, or clubcards in person, why should Futera card be valuable more then any other signed Match Attax card ? It is limited to only 1 card ? What is limited to only 1 ,DESIGN, signature is not.
They charge like they organize signing sessions. I am not going to bother myself anymore with this, everyone has their own opinion. So you can not change my,and I can´t change yours.
But one thing I know for sure, they way things work in cards business is something that most of you do not understand. Time will show who was right. I truly hope I am wrong.

I am not against their cards, BASE CARDS are nice ,but others just not good enough.

One more thing, nicolasharris you are complete ..... you really do not understand anything, and you just mock up people without any real proof, so admin can feel free to ban me for saying this, but you are one big idiot.

Again you even do not read what people write, just read again what you wrote.

"Looks like the cards are already signed and they have just left the signing session. Never read anywhere that Futera have said they have dealers to get autographs.
Our clowns are back twisting everything." SIGNING SESSION AT 5;30 what are you insane ????
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Futera do not use dealers they employ staff to get the autos.

As for card value I think on the auto's obviously the card has an autograph but I think the value is in the rarity of the card not the autograph itself. For instance a 1 of 1 is more valuable than a 1 of 60 despite having exactly the same autograph.

I suppose that's why regular autograph values are very different to trading card autographs, well at least for me anyway!
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Apr 24 2013, 04:24 PM
Sorry but there is NO way Futera could arrange signing sessions with all those players? They must have dealers. Everyone just think. A hour signing session would be £1000's. A dealer would cost £300 a week to get around 300 cards signed..
The Americans arrange signing sessions BECAUSE the market for cards is huge!

I know what i'd rather do. Futera want to make money, not blow it all on flash footballers wanting a grand for 5 minutes.
Then their cards must not have and will NEVER have value like any AUTHENTIC card. Simple as that. EVERYONE can get signed cards, or clubcards in person, why should Futera card be valuable more then any other signed Match Attax card ? It is limited to only 1 card ? What is limited to only 1 ,DESIGN, signature is not.
They charge like they organize signing sessions. I am not going to bother myself anymore with this, everyone has their own opinion. So you can not change my,and I can´t change yours.
But one thing I know for sure, they way things work in cards business is something that most of you do not understand. Time will show who was right. I truly hope I am wrong.

I am not against their cards, BASE CARDS are nice ,but others just not good enough.

One more thing, nicolasharris you are complete ..... you really do not understand anything, and you just mock up people without any real proof, so admin can feel free to ban me for saying this, but you are one big idiot.

Again you even do not read what people write, just read again what you wrote.

"Looks like the cards are already signed and they have just left the signing session. Never read anywhere that Futera have said they have dealers to get autographs.
Our clowns are back twisting everything." SIGNING SESSION AT 5;30 what are you insane ????
A good argument ruined by a pointless insult.
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I apologize for said above, and I will keep opinion for myself. Lawrence you can remove it ,or do whatever you feel is appropriate.

But post of nicolasharis are really pointless, and I do not know if calling a person who has different point a "clown" is different than calling a person who writes posts before reading facts an "idiot".

"Futera do not use dealers they employ staff to get the autos." that means a dealer ,an autograph chaser, a fanboy, whats the difference ? It has no sense , I will say again.
1) They must say on back of the card that card is authentic and that FUTERA, AND ONLY FUTERA guarantees for it. And not a dealer aka "the person who WORKS for them".
2) They must have sessions , this way it insults collectors intelligence. By collector I mean experienced collector ,not the newbie who things he/she/it knows everything and never completed anything besides Match Attax or Pokemon.

Also you say that card itself has value ?
Okay, then if design matters, that is other thing, but piece of cardboard can not be valued nowhere near that.
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In my opinion I don't really care how the cards are signed, as long as they are signed by the players themselves. I can understand how those from a signing session will be more "authentic" as the players are not flustered or busy at that time. However, as someone who doesn't live in the UK, my chances of actually meeting a player to get an autograph is zero, unless I travel over to watch a match or something. So, this product is the only way I will ever get an auto unfortunately...I don't think there are other companies who come up with football memo, auto cards which makes Futera the only option, unlike the US where they have companies like Topps churning out great American Football, Baseball products regularly and which are much more affordable I believe.
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In my opinion I don't really care how the cards are signed, as long as they are signed by the players themselves. I can understand how those from a signing session will be more "authentic" as the players are not flustered or busy at that time. However, as someone who doesn't live in the UK, my chances of actually meeting a player to get an autograph is zero, unless I travel over to watch a match or something. So, this product is the only way I will ever get an auto unfortunately...I don't think there are other companies who come up with football memo, auto cards which makes Futera the only option, unlike the US where they have companies like Topps churning out great American Football, Baseball products regularly and which are much more affordable I believe.
You can always get signed cards in trades on this forum or just write ttm to a club/celebrity, and it is the same, but you will have around 300 GBP in your pocket!
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Ah right so they are staff not dealers.. Same sort of thing apart from they all belong to Futera and are paid 24/7 by Futera.
So they do not organise signing sessions, which is understandable.

People who say these cards are worthless, you try and do Futera's job, getting 5,000+ autographs a series!
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"!People who say these cards are worthless, you try and do Futera's job, getting 5,000+ autographs a series!"

From your posts I see you are autograph collector, so I really do not understand how can you say this. Its not hard at all. You just need time.
I know a few people from UK and around world that get signatures of celebrities each day ttm, in person mostly. I know a person who gets at least 15 autographs a day. And by this I mean from different celebrities ,and not like 60 autographs from one.

Most of you probably thing I am against Futera, I am not. I just think they need to improve themselves. And like I said time will show who was right.
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Why don't you try? I get 10 different ones a day in the right place, or anything from 0-5 in the wrong place. 10 a day for a week - 70.. a month - 280.. Just from England.

Then travel to china, italy, spain, germany... It would take a good few months and a lot of hard work to see who is where and when the player is there.

My auto's are worth £3-4 at max, but if i was the director of Futera i'd do the exact same thing.
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Looks like the cards are already signed and they have just left the signing session. Never read anywhere that Futera have said they have dealers to get autographs.
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"Why don't you try? I get 10 different ones a day in the right place, or anything from 0-5 in the wrong place. 10 a day for a week - 70.. a month - 280.. Just from England."

Because I do not care, and I am not from UK, autos I need I already have. I was just saying that your post that it is hard ,is just not correct.

"My auto's are worth £3-4 at max, but if i was the director of Futera i'd do the exact same thing."
Typical capitalistic sentence, business and nothing more then a profit! I really do not understand people who can say something like this, and I am economist. It is okay to pay for something that is worth it, but this way its simply not. So you are aware you are getting robbed ,good then
Sometimes I wonder myself do you people realize what you type or just press "fast reply" ASAP. .

And yes , VALUE is something that will always be relative term. But at least make they need to improve and make it worth the money, my point here is - They must improve a lot.

The reason you guys are "in love with Futera" is simple ,you just did not see anything besides standard MASS PRODUCTION, so I understand your words. There are plenty of collections that are worth the money weather it is 0.30 0.50 or 100000 GBP for a pack, but this one ,at least for now is not.
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I've never brought ANY packs of Futera worth over £24.99.

You obviously just buy your autographs off eBay etc.. as you have no idea how hard it is. I don't care about profit, i don't sell mine, i keep them thats why i don't care that they are only worth peanuts.. If you actually WENT to get auto's you'd understand.
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I do not buy ,and I never bought any autograph, and I NEVER will especially not off Ebay.
Again you are missing the point, I am not telling its easy, read my posts carefully. I know its not perfect English ,but you will get it.
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Was browsing though some articles online and unexpectedly stumbled upon this picture of RVP with a guy behind holding the stack of RVP Futera autos which I believe he asked RVP to sign just before. Considering that 2013 has already been released, I wonder which collection these autos will be a part of :shrug
The same, why the Guy got signed his card even tought the série is released.. :huh:
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I've never brought ANY packs of Futera worth over £24.99.

You obviously just buy your autographs off eBay etc.. as you have no idea how hard it is. I don't care about profit, i don't sell mine, i keep them thats why i don't care that they are only worth peanuts.. If you actually WENT to get auto's you'd understand.
I go and get autographs....it's really not that hard. I've had days where I've got over 50 Premiership autographs and estimate I'm already into the 400-500 bracket for this season alone.

I guess you find it hard if you don't know what you're doing though.
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50 Different autographs a day? How can you do that then? Funny how their isn't 500 Premiership footballers? So your claiming you have EVERY single players autograph in the Premier League?

I can get 90% of a team in 3-4 hours.. Thats the best.. Im pretty sure i go to the right places, if you'd like to share where you get your autographs please go ahead.
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50 Different autographs a day? How can you do that then? Funny how their isn't 500 Premiership footballers? So your claiming you have EVERY single players autograph in the Premier League?

I can get 90% of a team in 3-4 hours.. Thats the best.. Im pretty sure i go to the right places, if you'd like to share where you get your autographs please go ahead.
50 is pretty easy when you get 2 or 3 off each player and clear pretty much the whole team. I didn't say 500 different players (for instance, a few players signed 6 or 7 for me last weekend) but I have certainly met the majority of Premier League including pretty much the whole of the Arsenal, Tottenham, Everton and Chelsea teams.
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Yes 50 is easy, but i mean different players
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I got just over 40 different ones that day. 24 from one team and nearing 20 from another
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This card was already released in 2013, which means it had to be signed months in advance.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/2013-Futera-Unique-ROBIN-VAN-PERSIE-12-55-Auto-Autograph-card-code-unused-/140953332207?pt=US_Soccer_Trading_Cards&hash=item20d17929ef

The real question is why would this fan be carrying around a stack of his autograph cards that he already signed? Something doesn't add up.

Could it be that picture was taken on a different day? Thoughts?
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May 12 2013, 03:20 AM
This card was already released in 2013, which means it had to be signed months in advance. <br /><br />http://www.ebay.com/itm/2013-Futera-Unique-ROBIN-VAN-PERSIE-12-55-Auto-Autograph-card-code-unused-/140953332207?pt=US_Soccer_Trading_Cards&hash=item20d17929ef<br /><br />The real question is why would this fan be carrying around a stack of his autograph cards that he already signed? Something doesn't add up.<br /><br />Could it be that picture was taken on a different day? Thoughts?
He has a good point^
Seems weird to me too...
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The picture is of Robin Van Persie the day Manchester united won the premier league title (published in 'The Sun' newspaper) months after Futera 2013 was released.

Agree with the guys who think it's weird.
Edited by placeforpeas, Aug 2 2013, 12:34 PM.
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