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Topps Announce Premier League Premium Set; New set to launch in December 2013
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Couldn't see if this had been posted. Can't create a new main topic - so here it goes.

http://www.beckett.com/news/2013/08/first-look-2013-14-topps-premier-gold-english-premier-league-soccer-cards/

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I'm just testing the waters here to see if anyone would be interested in a case break of this stuff with each person getting picking a team therefore they would be 20 spots.

How it works is we divide the whole cost of the case by 20 so each spot will be a fair share. When the case arrives I video the case break so everybody can see the break as it happens and I will send whoever had Arsenal all the arsenal cards that were pulled out of the break etc. With there being 10 hits per box that means 60 per case so if the correlation was perfect between teams you get 3 big hits from you're team and all the extra hits of your team like base and inserts.

They are attempting one on blowout however it will struggle to work as they are no fans of the lower teams as this will only work with all 20 teams being picked.

Now to the cost:

Case price: $1235 + $105 (shipping from the states to here) = $1340 + ($3 x 20 to ship your teams cards from here) $60= $1400 (now the 105 shipping I have there is from when I bought a case of big bang theory cards from blowout and was hit with an 80 euro custom charge which is approx $100 and without paypal fees but we wont worry about them just yet as there not much)

So each spot costs: $1400 divided by 20 = $70 approx.

I'll be taking Aston Villa. So if anybody is interested in a team let me know but just to be fair no one can come in and take for example the top 5 teams, each person is limited to one spot for now and if we are struggling to fill all the spots then people can take a second if they wish.

Just throwing this out there to see if people are interested :)
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They will be available in UK and I guess around Europe so be very careful before buying from the States as the customs fees will add a lot of money to the costs

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They will be available in UK and I guess around Europe so be very careful before buying from the States as the customs fees will add a lot of money to the costs
It'll only be and extra $5 each as I got hit with customs of around $100 before and if we wait till they come out the price will be higher than pre sale now so we'll be lucky to get it at $75 a spot. The only reason I don't have it at $75 a spot up there is custom charges are the luck of the draw
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Looks like a promising and exciting collection.

@Portlaw: If you're to organise a box break, don't you think it would be wise to have 2 or 3 price bands for the spots, as United cards are likely to be more valuable than, say, Hull or Sunderland (and 'investors', as opposed to fans, would sign for the bigger names)? Obviously, it depends a lot of the checklist, and it's still early days, so just my 2 pence.
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I'm just testing the waters here to see if anyone would be interested in a case break of this stuff with each person getting picking a team therefore they would be 20 spots.

How it works is we divide the whole cost of the case by 20 so each spot will be a fair share. When the case arrives I video the case break so everybody can see the break as it happens and I will send whoever had Arsenal all the arsenal cards that were pulled out of the break etc. With there being 10 hits per box that means 60 per case so if the correlation was perfect between teams you get 3 big hits from you're team and all the extra hits of your team like base and inserts.

They are attempting one on blowout however it will struggle to work as they are no fans of the lower teams as this will only work with all 20 teams being picked.

Now to the cost:

Case price: $1235 + $105 (shipping from the states to here) = $1340 + ($3 x 20 to ship your teams cards from here) $60= $1400 (now the 105 shipping I have there is from when I bought a case of big bang theory cards from blowout and was hit with an 80 euro custom charge which is approx $100 and without paypal fees but we wont worry about them just yet as there not much)

So each spot costs: $1400 divided by 20 = $70 approx.

I'll be taking Aston Villa. So if anybody is interested in a team let me know but just to be fair no one can come in and take for example the top 5 teams, each person is limited to one spot for now and if we are struggling to fill all the spots then people can take a second if they wish.

Just throwing this out there to see if people are interested :)


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Looks like a promising and exciting collection.

@Portlaw: If you're to organise a box break, don't you think it would be wise to have 2 or 3 price bands for the spots, as United cards are likely to be more valuable than, say, Hull or Sunderland (and 'investors', as opposed to fans, would sign for the bigger names)? Obviously, it depends a lot of the checklist, and it's still early days, so just my 2 pence.
I do understand what your saying but what if the manchester united cards are rarer than hull? And there was one united hit in a case and 5 hull yet the united spot is charged 150 yet the hull only 30. Then its unfair that way too. The easiest thing to do is just to do them at an even price and try and get true fans in instead of investors
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I will have Manchester United please Sean.
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Looks like a promising and exciting collection.

@Portlaw: If you're to organise a box break, don't you think it would be wise to have 2 or 3 price bands for the spots, as United cards are likely to be more valuable than, say, Hull or Sunderland (and 'investors', as opposed to fans, would sign for the bigger names)? Obviously, it depends a lot of the checklist, and it's still early days, so just my 2 pence.
I do understand what your saying but what if the manchester united cards are rarer than hull? And there was one united hit in a case and 5 hull yet the united spot is charged 150 yet the hull only 30. Then its unfair that way too. The easiest thing to do is just to do them at an even price and try and get true fans in instead of investors
Fair enough, but even for that, there should be more demand for clubs like United, City or Chelsea.

Mind you, I would go for Palace anyway. :D
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I'll go for Crystal Palace dependent on how the set actually turns out.
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I'll go for Crystal Palace dependent on how the set actually turns out.


What does that mean?

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And what happens if 3-4 members wants MU ? Will there be bidding or first come first served ?

It is good idea, but there must be a good plan, and I am not sure if all teams will be chosen.
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And what happens if 3-4 members wants MU ? Will there be bidding or first come first served ?

It is good idea, but there must be a good plan, and I am not sure if all teams will be chosen.
The only way to do it is first come first serve, so first person to put their name in for a team gets that team. There wont be any bidding I'm not doing this to make money I'm just doing this so that people who want a case worths of their favourite team can get them this way at the price of a third of a box instead of buying a box and hoping for a hit of somebody from their team
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By bidding I meant this :

Member 1 ,Member 2 and Member 3 want MU. Price for 1 team is around 70$. So if MU bid reaches lets say 100$, teams that are not picked will have 30$ less in value, and may attract more people so that all teams are in
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Give it a few days or even weeks and I'm sure all 20 spots will be taken up... Well before the December release date.
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By bidding I meant this :

Member 1 ,Member 2 and Member 3 want MU. Price for 1 team is around 70$. So if MU bid reaches lets say 100$, teams that are not picked will have 30$ less in value, and may attract more people so that all teams are in
I do understand what you mean by that but I'm doing this as a purely collector viewpoint and for instance it would not be fair on bibster who has manchester united to have to go through a bidding war whereas others won't.

All it'll take is one fan from each team who is extremely excited about these for their team and this will be a great dealso hopefully we'll get it filled
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First piece of info on the checklist

Pele And Ronaldo Join English Premier League Stars To Power Upcoming Topps Premier Gold

On the heels of unveiling a peek into its highly-anticipated Topps Premier Gold, which guarantees 5 Autographs and 5 Memorabilia cardsin every box, Topps is pleased to announce the product will feature autograph and memorabilia cards of the following Barclays Premier League stars:

Christian Benteke - Aston Villa
Mikel Arteta Arsenal
Jack Wilshere Arsenal
Ashley Cole Chelsea
Leighton Baines Everton
Tim Howard Everton
Ashley Young -Manchester United
Kyle Walker Tottenham Hotspur

In addition, iconic footballers CRISTIANO RONALDO, PELE and GIANFRANCO ZOLA will be highlighted on autograph cards.

Stay tuned for more announced signers as well as a full autograph and memorabilia subject list.



Those jerseys must be jerseys they picked up after the first weekend of action if its a true 13/14 set but is young not injured?

I was thinking in the case of the pele ronaldo ect we could do a random draw if one was pulled unless anybody else has any ideas and were almost half way full with the list, getting excited about this release :D
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Just an update that young was not on the squad for the first united match so these jerseys are more than likely from last year or pre season so don't be put off when you don't see lower table teams (according to last years table) as back then I doubt they knew who would still be in the league and who would be promoted
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Where have you found this info Sean?

With regards to Pele and Ronaldo and the random draw - I gather Ronaldo will be in the Man Utd kit on the card? ;)
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Where have you found this info Sean?

With regards to Pele and Ronaldo and the random draw - I gather Ronaldo will be in the Man Utd kit on the card? ;)
It was posted on blowout, the site where the case break will be purchased.

I like your thinking and yes I would assume he will be, it's just when it said iconic footballers CRISTIANO RONALDO, PELE and GIANFRANCO ZOLA, that insists that teams like hull etc won't have any of these auto's so I was thinking a random draw would work but if everyone is ok with it I'm 100% glad to give it to the united spot who looks to be ... you ;)
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Haha!

Let's wait and see what kits etc the icons are in before we make an agreement. I was just thinking, for instance, if Zola or Ronaldo are in the Chelsea or United kits, I think it should go to the person with that team, as the deal is to get all the cards out of the break for that particular team. Of course Pele won't have an allocated team so that randomising is the fairest way of deciding.

Just got very excited at the thought of a signed Pele card being part of the set, as I will be buying a box (or 2) of these myself as well as joining the case break. Just hope they are released before Christmas then I can get some packs as presents as well.

Seeing Wilshere and Baines on the list for auto's has got me VERY excited too!
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Haha!

Let's wait and see what kits etc the icons are in before we make an agreement. I was just thinking, for instance, if Zola or Ronaldo are in the Chelsea or United kits, I think it should go to the person with that team, as the deal is to get all the cards out of the break for that particular team. Of course Pele won't have an allocated team so that randomising is the fairest way of deciding.

Just got very excited at the thought of a signed Pele card being part of the set, as I will be buying a box (or 2) of these myself as well as joining the case break. Just hope they are released before Christmas then I can get some packs as presents as well.

Seeing Wilshere and Baines on the list for auto's has got me VERY excited too!
That's very true the post did say every players card from that team so we will stick with that throughout the break but it probably won't be much of a problem as I would think these ronaldo, pele auto's etc would be 1 auto a case if we're lucky.

But seeing Benteke has put me into sheer delight and can't wait to see the rest of the signers and jersey crads (memorabilia cards as topps u.s call it) from all the teams :D
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Is it not better to buy the case from Topps UK so that we don't get stung with customs?
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Is it not better to buy the case from Topps UK so that we don't get stung with customs?
I'm ok with waiting and getting it with them but I would expect the pre sale price of blowout to be alot cheaper than what topps uk will offer it at.

I bought a case of cards from blowout for $750 presale about 4 months before it came out and as it closer to release price rose and upon release it was on sale for $1200 and thats what I'm worried about because if that happens then price will increase massively whereas as if we are hit with customs it's only an extra $5 to each slots total
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Is it not better to buy the case from Topps UK so that we don't get stung with customs?
I'm ok with waiting and getting it with them but I would expect the pre sale price of blowout to be alot cheaper than what topps uk will offer it at.

I bought a case of cards from blowout for $750 presale about 4 months before it came out and as it closer to release price rose and upon release it was on sale for $1200 and thats what I'm worried about because if that happens then price will increase massively whereas as if we are hit with customs it's only an extra $5 to each slots total
Ah, I see.

I am thinking, based on the prices currently, that Topps will charge 150 per box, 15 per pack.

We need to get the spots filled then Sean so that we can decide if the box needs to be ordered with Blowout if you think that the price could shoot up nearer the release date. I will try and persevere with Topps to find out if they can confirm cost in the UK and then we can decide between all of us whether to get them from the US or UK.
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Is it not better to buy the case from Topps UK so that we don't get stung with customs?
I'm ok with waiting and getting it with them but I would expect the pre sale price of blowout to be alot cheaper than what topps uk will offer it at.

I bought a case of cards from blowout for $750 presale about 4 months before it came out and as it closer to release price rose and upon release it was on sale for $1200 and thats what I'm worried about because if that happens then price will increase massively whereas as if we are hit with customs it's only an extra $5 to each slots total
Ah, I see.

I am thinking, based on the prices currently, that Topps will charge 150 per box, 15 per pack.

We need to get the spots filled then Sean so that we can decide if the box needs to be ordered with Blowout if you think that the price could shoot up nearer the release date. I will try and persevere with Topps to find out if they can confirm cost in the UK and then we can decide between all of us whether to get them from the US or UK.
It could go either way the case I bought was from an extremely popular tv show which jut gained in popularity so that may have had some baring on it.

If all came to all we could do it with 10 people (we currently have 9) however each of the 10 people will have to take 2 spots and we randomly assign the last 10 teams to a person however I feel most people who are in this only want the team they have chosen but they are still good teams that you may randomly get such as Newcastle (Shearer maybe), Man City etc. So we will give it a couple more days and see what happens
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I'll go for Crystal Palace dependent on how the set actually turns out.


What does that mean?

I'd like to see what the set actually involves first - I don't really want to end up spending $70 on three or four base cards if that's what they turn out to be.
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I tweeted Topps to ask for info on prices etc and got this response:

We are working on the new collection now- the retail prices will be published in the next couple of weeks so please check back!

I also notice that Topps have been having signing sessions with Premier League clubs the last couple of weeks - Cardiff, West Brom and Aston Villa that I know of.

Portlaw - you will be pleased to know Benteke was one of the Villa signers!!

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I tweeted Topps to ask for info on prices etc and got this response:

We are working on the new collection now- the retail prices will be published in the next couple of weeks so please check back!

I also notice that Topps have been having signing sessions with Premier League clubs the last couple of weeks - Cardiff, West Brom and Aston Villa that I know of.

Portlaw - you will be pleased to know Benteke was one of the Villa signers!!

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Are thy not signing match attacks cards there though?


I've been told the retail price of a box is $265 which has been acquired by a supplier who got in contact with topps us in the states
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Not sure Sean, if they are Match Attax, I wonder how they will be distributed...?

Perhaps they were signing cards for both sets, but I can't see that 4 Villa players signed Match Attax will be available in packs, unless they are doing the code redemption thing again with the packs and these are being used as prizes??
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Aug 28 2013, 09:39 PM
Not sure Sean, if they are Match Attax, I wonder how they will be distributed...?

Perhaps they were signing cards for both sets, but I can't see that 4 Villa players signed Match Attax will be available in packs, unless they are doing the code redemption thing again with the packs and these are being used as prizes??
I only say that because of the match attax baner in the bacround and the player holding up a match attacks card.

BUT the villa signers there are Weimann, Guzan (i think), Benteke and Lowton who are 4 of the 5 on the villa checklist for premier gold so it does make sense that its for the premier gold set and there has only ever been like 3 signers in match attacks from various teams never all from the one as you say.
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Just noticed that they seem to be signing stickers which is what topps us generally do when attaining autographs so it does seem to be for premier gold.

Great find by the Catherine :-)
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Just read, Due to licensing rights this WONT be sold Overseas. It is restricted to the US and Canada. Wont be getting this in local shops guys
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Gutted! :(

Need to arrange getting a box shipped over then...
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