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Topps Announce Premier League Premium Set; New set to launch in December 2013
Topic Started: Aug 9 2013, 08:33 PM (15,988 Views)
Sir Roger Hunt
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Couldn't see if this had been posted. Can't create a new main topic - so here it goes.

http://www.beckett.com/news/2013/08/first-look-2013-14-topps-premier-gold-english-premier-league-soccer-cards/

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clem132
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how many boxes produced could they be sold out
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clem132
Jan 6 2014, 09:35 PM
how many boxes produced could they be sold out
I have it at an estimated 5322 boxes
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just had the call the cards are in the country now and delivery with me shoild be tomorrow if everything goes smoothly.
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cheers portlaw how packets in a box is it 12 ??

Steve i bet you cannot wait to break that case open

do we know how many signature & relic base card of there seems to be loads ??
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someone pulled the Ronaldo 1/1 Platinum already ...

http://www.blowoutcards.com/forums/other-sports-box-breaks/643135-topps-premier-gold-2-case-break-definitely-beat-odds.html
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I kind of agree with the point that you don't buy these cards purely to get a match-worn shirt. With the odds (not to mention the chance that they could just be "event worn"?) and price you might as well get hold of an actual shirt rather than a tiny cutting of one. Proper shirts go for around the £200 mark so the chance of getting a cutting for a significant chunk isn't worth it - that means the cards are bought for other reasons.
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Also getting our stock tomorrow and will be selling some individual packets at £24.99, which is the RRP, on our website. Happy to offer Forum users a 10% discount tho. Just use discount code FCF10 at the checkout and we'll even give you free postage
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Topps did a very nice job with this set. The Ronaldo, Bale, and Pele autos are very nice inclusions
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I notice that Defoe's parallel base card is correct,how it would happen?did anybody pull of correct Defoe base?

Curious about whether there is Defore err base 1 of 1 plate,that might be most expensive err card in history.

Also,we are aware of that Topps US is poor at football knowledge.One more blatant mistake is De Gea back career

description.Even a US kid would be laughing on loud.
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stevesmith
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case opened about to pm those who asked for first refusal,plenty of villa and got standard ronaldo auto and parallel of 50 gerrard auto and lampard auto.
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a few careers are wrong Matt Jarvis has Joe Cole's career on the back, Noble has Jarvis on the back haven't got any more to check but I would suspect that Cole will have Noble's career

very poor for such a good set
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can i just say thanks to those that have replied to my pm's,those i need to contact again i will get round to it but i want to try and get team base sets sorted i'm missing 1 or 2 every team (would have the but parallel) so i will add a post in the trading area now.
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I've just found yet another error with this set. I have a Jonny Howson Star Player Auto that quite clearly says Future Stars on the front!
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harrodjon
Jan 9 2014, 11:14 AM
I've just found yet another error with this set. I have a Jonny Howson Star Player Auto that quite clearly says Future Stars on the front!
The Star Players autos come in 4 sub categories:

Star Players
Future Stars
Match Winners
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Yeah, but he is meant to be a star player. As denoted my the SP rather than FS in his card ID. (I'd also say that 25 is a bit old for a player to be a future star!)
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Ignore me. Just seen the breakdown page on your site Alan. Makes a bit more sense now. I still feel he's too old to be a future star tho
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Hi guys, I'm new here. I've read a few comments questioning if the relics are match worn. The card clearly suggests at the back that- 'the memorabilia contained in this card is not from any specific, game event or season'. Either it isn't match worn, or they don't particularly know which match?
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Jan 9 2014, 03:38 PM
Hi guys, I'm new here. I've read a few comments questioning if the relics are match worn. The card clearly suggests at the back that- 'the memorabilia contained in this card is not from any specific, game event or season'. Either it isn't match worn, or they don't particularly know which match?
The word there is 'event'. An event could be a press conference, public event, any type of event or event signing like they did.

I have been very interested in the Villa cards and not a single Weimann or Tonev card has included the premier league badge which leads me to believe they are event worn. I think this as both the Guzan and Benteke do contain the premier league badge so were more than likely used in a premier league game around the time topps obtained the auto's.
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I still don't quite understand the hype around a little cutting of shirt. I still think it would have been better to do a redemption for actual shirts?

Although by that logic, I could take one of the match worn shirts in my collection, cut it into a few hundred s***Censored***s and sell them for a fortune :P
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Jan 12 2014, 10:23 AM
I still don't quite understand the hype around a little cutting of shirt. I still think it would have been better to do a redemption for actual shirts?

Although by that logic, I could take one of the match worn shirts in my collection, cut it into a few hundred s***Censored***s and sell them for a fortune :P
That can be said about anything. What's the hype of having someone scribble their name on a card? Whats the big hype of having match attax cards they are just cards with numbers?

To me it's that it represents the club and player, if it was just of any random shirt or top the player wore I couldn't care less but it's that it's of a villa jersey, same when you collect match attax or whatever what good would it be to have a player in the clothes they wear in their private life?

And they are part of a licensed set, a Ronaldo jersey card with a piece of United crest would sell for more than the majority of full match worn jerseys of most players so I the logic of that may work, if you get your shirt into a licensed set ;)
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Jan 9 2014, 04:19 PM
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Hi guys, I'm new here. I've read a few comments questioning if the relics are match worn. The card clearly suggests at the back that- 'the memorabilia contained in this card is not from any specific, game event or season'. Either it isn't match worn, or they don't particularly know which match?
The word there is 'event'. An event could be a press conference, public event, any type of event or event signing like they did.

I have been very interested in the Villa cards and not a single Weimann or Tonev card has included the premier league badge which leads me to believe they are event worn. I think this as both the Guzan and Benteke do contain the premier league badge so were more than likely used in a premier league game around the time topps obtained the auto's.
Let's not be naive here. When the card says "The memorabilia contained in this card is/are not from any specific game, event or season" it basically means that the player has most probably never actually worn the shirt which has been used for the card. If the piece of memorabilia would come from a game worn shirt (even event worn shirt), the card would clearly indicate that as it makes the card (and set) more interesting for collectors.
People might feel bad about it, but this is how all card manufacturers have been working for many years (mainly in other sports sets). If this is important for you and it makes a difference in the amount of money you want to spend, you should check this carefully before you buy. It's the same thing as checking whether an autograph is on card or sticker, if that matters to you.

For me, it is quite simple:
If you are after an authentic piece of memorabilia, you should stay far away from this set.
For card collectors, on the other hand, I don't think it matters too much if the memorabilia are genuine or not. The cards are special and some are unique, and that is what matters for them. If you would look at for example NBA card sets, you would see that cards with game worn mem have a higher price than cards with non-game worn mem. If there were more high end football card sets, I am sure you would see the same thing. Now there is only one real premium set out there and prices paid are therefore very high, no matter if the memorabilia are game worn or not.
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Jan 12 2014, 04:56 PM
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Jan 12 2014, 10:23 AM
I still don't quite understand the hype around a little cutting of shirt. I still think it would have been better to do a redemption for actual shirts?

Although by that logic, I could take one of the match worn shirts in my collection, cut it into a few hundred s***Censored***s and sell them for a fortune :P
That can be said about anything. What's the hype of having someone scribble their name on a card? Whats the big hype of having match attax cards they are just cards with numbers?

To me it's that it represents the club and player, if it was just of any random shirt or top the player wore I couldn't care less but it's that it's of a villa jersey, same when you collect match attax or whatever what good would it be to have a player in the clothes they wear in their private life?

And they are part of a licensed set, a Ronaldo jersey card with a piece of United crest would sell for more than the majority of full match worn jerseys of most players so I the logic of that may work, if you get your shirt into a licensed set ;)
I fully get your point about that, but it wasn't really that idea that I was going on about. My main confusion about it is why cut it up when you could just give someone a whole shirt? Not quite sure what you mean about "private life" clothes - when I said actual shirts I meant as in the matchworn shirts whole rather than cut up.

Match worn shirts aren't really that expensive so I'm sure Topps could have been able to afford 4 or 5 of each player rather than one and cutting it up into smaller bits?
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ashleyyoungFTW
Jan 13 2014, 02:18 PM
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Jan 12 2014, 04:56 PM
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Jan 12 2014, 10:23 AM
I still don't quite understand the hype around a little cutting of shirt. I still think it would have been better to do a redemption for actual shirts?

Although by that logic, I could take one of the match worn shirts in my collection, cut it into a few hundred s***Censored***s and sell them for a fortune :P
That can be said about anything. What's the hype of having someone scribble their name on a card? Whats the big hype of having match attax cards they are just cards with numbers?

To me it's that it represents the club and player, if it was just of any random shirt or top the player wore I couldn't care less but it's that it's of a villa jersey, same when you collect match attax or whatever what good would it be to have a player in the clothes they wear in their private life?

And they are part of a licensed set, a Ronaldo jersey card with a piece of United crest would sell for more than the majority of full match worn jerseys of most players so I the logic of that may work, if you get your shirt into a licensed set ;)
I fully get your point about that, but it wasn't really that idea that I was going on about. My main confusion about it is why cut it up when you could just give someone a whole shirt? Not quite sure what you mean about "private life" clothes - when I said actual shirts I meant as in the matchworn shirts whole rather than cut up.

Match worn shirts aren't really that expensive so I'm sure Topps could have been able to afford 4 or 5 of each player rather than one and cutting it up into smaller bits?
Maybe there could be multiple selections of the kit... to incorporate your idea maybe a badge patch, along with some blank patch and possibly part of a letter from the back of the kit maybe? Of course they couldn't do this with all cards, but for some, and it could bump up it's ridiculously inaccurate sale value. I still don't see the point so about the fact that crest is worth more than the entire else of the kit, by he way I meant that I agree with you but I don't see why it happens, its truly illogical.

And some people do like to collect Match Attax cards, it is a hobby and there is as much reason to collection them as there is to collect any other set, including these PremierLeague Premiums. But I do agree with you on that note, it seems pointkess yet people still do it. 'People' including me by the way, so I should shut up.
But to be generally honest, I would rather collect cards than these autos and so called 's***Censored***s'. Much quicker, and cheaper, but the magic isn't really there about Match Attax, I would definetly purchase a once in a lifetime auto or 's***Censored***' than just go to my local Co-Op and buy 40 card trading cards.

And yeah it would be a great idea to just make a massive card with an entire kit on, but in my opinion that's kind of pushing it a bit.
It's a great set, but the way they do it ( make the cards to have a 2cm by 2cm s***Censored*** of kit, yes just kit, nothing special such as a letter or a badge or even an authenticity of the kit badge... actually that would be a decent idea, at least it proves te authenticity of the kit! ), is questionable. But really what can you expect from Topps. I would have loved of of Panini had had a crack at this, and hopefully, maybe with the Prizm set this upcoming summer. Anyway, I should really stop going off topic.

As I said in the brackets in the previous paragraph, you could question the authenticity of the kits, but that's another post!
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Love the way you can't say s c r a p s because of the 4 letter word in the middle
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