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Team Case Break - Topps Premier Gold 2013/14
Topic Started: Aug 23 2013, 12:44 PM (7,755 Views)
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I'm just testing the waters here to see if anyone would be interested in a case break of this stuff with each person getting picking a team therefore they would be 20 spots.

How it works is we divide the whole cost of the case by 20 so each spot will be a fair share. When the case arrives I video the case break so everybody can see the break as it happens and I will send whoever had Arsenal all the arsenal cards that were pulled out of the break etc. With there being 10 hits per box that means 60 per case so if the correlation was perfect between teams you get 3 big hits from you're team and all the extra hits of your team like base and inserts.

They are attempting one on blowout however it will struggle to work as they are no fans of the lower teams as this will only work with all 20 teams being picked.

Now to the cost:

Case price: $1235 + $75 (shipping from the states to here) = $1310 + ($3 x 20 to ship your teams cards from here) $60= $1370 + $60 (customs)= $1430

So each spot costs: $1430 divided by 20 = $71.50 approx.

With $10 per spot being paid FINAL PAYMENT = $61.50 PER SPOT.

I'll be taking Aston Villa. So if anybody is interested in a team let me know but just to be fair no one can come in and take for example the top 5 teams, each person is limited to one spot for now and if we are struggling to fill all the spots then people can take a second if they wish.

Just throwing this out there to see if people are interested :)

Arsenal- dvsgooner (deposit paid) (final payment made)
Aston Villa- Portlaw (deposit paid) (final payment made)
Cardiff City- Alan (deposit paid) (final payment made)
Chelsea- soccercardz (deposit paid) (final payment made)
Crystal Palace- dvsgooner (deposit paid) (final payment made)
Everton- harryl1878 (deposit paid) (final payment made)
Fulham- rwood93372 (deposit paid) (final payment made)
Hull City- Tollyman (deposit paid) (final payment made)
Liverpool- Tollyman (deposit paid) (final payment made)
Manchester City- dimon1975-0820 (deposit paid) (final payment made)
Manchester United- Bibster (deposit paid) (final payment made)
Newcastle United- Harryl1878 (deposit paid) (final payment made)
Norwich City- pnchocolates (deposit paid) (final payment made)
Southampton- Alan (deposit paid) (final payment made)
Stoke City- dimon1975-0820 (deposit paid) (final payment made)
Sunderland- pnchocolates (deposit paid) (final payment made)
Swansea City- Bibster (deposit paid) (final payment made)
Tottenham Hotspur- soccercardz (deposit paid) (final payment made)
West Bromwich Albion- Phild (deposit paid) (final payment made)
West Ham United- rwood93372 (deposit paid) (final payment made)

All set information is in the original thread about this set and this for the case break only so if your interested let me know.

Just to clarify if a printing plate not of a team or pele auto etc is pulled it will be randomly drawn to a person in the case break.

This case break will work with 10 or 20 people so we will see how numbers go. If we are to do this with 10 people each will need to take 2 teams, the second team of which will be randomly drawn to you
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Come on guys Chelsea and Manchester City are still available amongst all the others as well :D
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Hi Sean,

Of course I remember you! No need to re-introduce yourself Sean =)

I can only ship via UPS Worldwide Expedited. Lots of international interest coming in right now for the Topps Premier Gold...looks like it could be a sleeper product.

Here's what I can do:

1 Case 2013/14 Topps Premier Gold - $1234.95
UPS Worldwide Expedited - 75

Total = $1304.95

Please let me know if you'd like to order and I would be more than happy to send you a paypal request. Hope you are doing well Sean.

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So shipping is slightly less than anticipated so I will adjust cost in a little bit and as soon as all slots are filled we can get to ordering on this product
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@spanish and @ashleyyoungFTW - we are probably not going to be able fill all 20 spots so what we'll do is get 10 people who will take 2 spots (currently have 7 who will) and random draw to see what second team they get. Most of us who are taking a second place are only doing so so that we can get this ordered and have no real want for the second team so when the random draw is done if for example I get crystal palace you can get in contact with me and buy that spot from me at the same price as all the other spots if you want it. But it is up to whoever gets the spot as to whether they want to sell it or keep.
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no one in for chelsea or man city????
very surprised!
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no one in for chelsea or man city????
very surprised!
Very surprised myself as well. I assumed those two would have been snapped up straight away, a potential Lampard, Hart, Aguero, Navas, the possibilities of top players goes on and on
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Just in case some collectors aren't aware, every card in the set of 100 base cards is available in NINE different versions - the regular base card, green and orange colour variations, gold and platinum versions, plus FOUR printing plates (black, cyan, magenta and yellow).

The same goes for many of the subsets.

Cardiff City have FIVE players in the provisional checklist. I haven't checked all the names, perhaps the 100 cards are made up of 5 players from each of the 20 clubs.

At five base cards, plus perhaps a few in the subsets I could be looking to try and get 60 or 70 cards from this collection.

I think this case break will help me gather as many cards as possible for the least cost.

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Just an update. It's clear that we won't be able to fill all 20 spots so it will have to be 10 people who are willing to take 2 spots and each persons additional spot can then be sold off if the holder of the spots wants to sell it and if someone would like the spot after it has been assigned. We currently have 8 people taking 2 spots so we need 2 more people. I'm just waiting on replies and we could have 10 spots full and ready to go.

A $200 deposit will need to be placed so it'll be $20 each now with the remaining due in December
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Ok ladies and gentlemen we have all 10 spots full. I will randomise the ten teams tonight at about 9. I can video the randomiser, it'll be a bit awkward but if you would rather that just let me know? I will put the names and teams into it and click the randomise button 3 times and after that third time those will be the team assigned to each member.

chuck332 who was originally down for spurs never replied to pm asking would he take 2 spots as that how we need to move forward so to be fair to him if anyone gets spurs and is ok with selling it he is interested in the spot
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Great news!

Thanks to Sean for sorting this for everyone! An exciting development for the forum and one I am sure people are looking forward to seeing the results of.
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There's no need for thanks just happy we could get this together. I'll be doing the random draw at 8 instead so will post results once they are done :)
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1.Crystal Palace
2.Hull City
3.Newcastle United
4.Norwich City
5.Southampton
6.Stoke City
7.Swansea City
8.Tottenham Hotspur
9.West Bromwich Albion
10.West Ham United

These will be the numbers of the team. I will randomise the names and what ever number your name is next to is the team you will be assigned. Best of luck everyone
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The results are in:

1.dvsgooner
2.Tollyman
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4.pnchocolates
5.Alan
6.dimon1975-0820
7.Bibster
8.soccercardz
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Therefore:

dvsgooner - Crystal Palace
Tollyman - Hull City
haryl1878 - Newcastle United
pnchocolates - Norwich City
Alan - Southampton
dimon1975-0820 - Stoke City
Bibster - Swansea City
soccercardz - Totenham Hotspur
Portlaw - West Bromwich Albion
rwood93372 - West Ham United
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Pm's about first payment have been sent
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All deposits have been received and I'm just waiting on the paypal invoice from blowout to pay the deposit and I will let you guys know when I have :)
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Just to update the $200 deposit to Blowout has been paid so we won't need to pay the remainder till December time.

Someone brought up a good point and I thought I'd leave it up for discussion. There are dual, triple and quad jersey cards in this set, but if a dual jersey card contains for example a man united and man city player what should we do to determine which team gets the card?
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Just to update the $200 deposit to Blowout has been paid so we won't need to pay the remainder till December time.

Someone brought up a good point and I thought I'd leave it up for discussion. There are this set, but if a dual jersey card contains for example a man united and man city player what should we do to determine which team gets the card?
give it to those that have the least jersey cards.

Single cards get handed out first, then dual, triple and quad jersey cards in that order.

If utd & city are on a card and city has 2 single shirts to utd 3 then they get it.

other wise draw lots for it.

You do need to get this sorted before as if one of the cards has a patch it could be worth 100's!!

And not to put too much pressure on I'd be very unhappy to miss out on a dual 'patch' card with Gerrard as one of the players!! :o
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Just to update the $200 deposit to Blowout has been paid so we won't need to pay the remainder till December time.

Someone brought up a good point and I thought I'd leave it up for discussion. There are this set, but if a dual jersey card contains for example a man united and man city player what should we do to determine which team gets the card?
give it to those that have the least jersey cards.

Single cards get handed out first, then dual, triple and quad jersey cards in that order.

If utd & city are on a card and city has 2 single shirts to utd 3 then they get it.

other wise draw lots for it.

You do need to get this sorted before as if one of the cards has a patch it could be worth 100's!!

And not to put too much pressure on I'd be very unhappy to miss out on a dual 'patch' card with Gerrard as one of the players!! :o
Yeah but of those will work. With regards to picking picking someone with the fewest jerseys do you think it best to give it to the person with fewest hits? For example United has 2 jerseys and 2 autos and Man city has 1 jersey and 4 autos then eve though City have less jerseys they have more hits.

With regards to a patch dual and price I think the patches that will reach the 100's range is the jumbo patches. I can't see a dual patch of gerrard competing with a jumbo patch of his
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I think it should be a random draw if there is more than one team on a card.

This is how it's done on the many case breaks I have seen in the US for Basketball etc, not based on how many other cards someone has got out of the break.

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I think it should be a random draw if there is more than one team on a card.

This is how it's done on the many case breaks I have seen in the US for Basketball etc, not based on how many other cards someone has got out of the break.

Sounds like probably the only way that will work without it getting too complicated but would be gutting if it means somebody get a third jersy while someone else misses out completely. Still that's life I suppose! B)
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im not in this but id do it with the teams in a hat. first out gets it. or you could do first 2 3 out to make it more interesting.



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I think it should be a random draw if there is more than one team on a card.

This is how it's done on the many case breaks I have seen in the US for Basketball etc, not based on how many other cards someone has got out of the break.

Sounds like probably the only way that will work without it getting too complicated but would be gutting if it means somebody get a third jersy while someone else misses out completely. Still that's life I suppose! B)
I know everybody didn't want the lower teams but I've a feeling this product will be highly watered down with lower players as to fill up the hits in the packs. Unless collation is done perfectly I can see the lower teams getting more hits.

I'll leave it open to the others to put in their comments but as for now we'll do a random draw for the split team card
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I just read that a collector inquired into his local card store in the US about the price of a box and it is $265 so that looks like what the release price will be looks like we got a good deal here guys :653
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Ok everyone it's about time to update this so people can get their funds together as payment will be needed on the 20th if Blowout's release date is correct so payment will be taken in the coming days. I will send all participants a pm to look at this thread again for the updates:

1. I rang UPS asking if there will be customs and they said if shipped international there would be, I inquired how much but they said they would need the exact weight which I didn't have but I ordered a case with them before and was charged 60 euro but it was slightly heavier I would think so I will put a customs charge of $60 in which is $3 per slot and when it arrives I will show the customs form in the video so people know how much it was if it's less I will refund the couple of cents to each of you and if more which I suspect it will be I'll just pay the extra.

2. Not many people did this the first time round (most sent it friends or paid for the fees) but it was ok for those who did as it was only $20 so it wasn't so bad. But when sending the money please make sure if sending it under paying for goods and services that you pay for the fees. I can't afford to be paying the fees for everybody's slot not with it being about $1000 we'll be sending over to Blowoutcards.

3. Finally after the cards are received all packages will be sent regular shipping with proof of postage being kept but if once the break is done you would like tracked shipping you can let me know and send over the extra for shipping. If you wish the normal postage then please ignore this point.

4. Final payment price has been updated in the first post. If you have one spot it costs $61.50 and if you have 2 spots it costs $123.00

We'll also set out the rules for dual jerseys etc over the coming weeks :)
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After tallying up the total with shipping being $30 cheaper than first expected and customs of $60 each spot only cost $1.50 more than first anticipated
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Almost half of payments made :D

I will email Blowoutcards again to clarify the date that they will be looking for the full payment as there are many release dates floating around
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Just received an email back from them saying that they look for payment 7 days before release once topps have confirmed it with them. They still have their date as the 18th so for now we have to look to get all payments by the 11th just in case they do look for it then so if all members left to pay could pm and let me know when they can that'd be great :)
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Just received an email back from them saying that they look for payment 7 days before release once topps have confirmed it with them. They still have their date as the 18th so for now we have to look to get all payments by the 11th just in case they do look for it then so if all members left to pay could pm and let me know when they can that'd be great :)
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Just received an email back from them saying that they look for payment 7 days before release once topps have confirmed it with them. They still have their date as the 18th so for now we have to look to get all payments by the 11th just in case they do look for it then so if all members left to pay could pm and let me know when they can that'd be great :)
is it too late to have a spot for this?
Many members took a second team even though they had no interest in a second to help get the break going which i'm very grateful for and i'm sure everyone else is too so if you look in the first post for a team you'd like you can contact the members name next to it as they might sell you the spot, I don't think spots like Man utd, liverpool etc will be sold though but it doesn't hurt to ask whoever has the team you'd like :-)
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Crystal Palace is for sale... ;)
Very tempting!!

Out of interest if I did go for Palace does that mean I will end up with all Palace players? Will I have the chance to draw chase cards (jersey, auto) from players of other teams?

If Portlaw or anyone can answer that, then I will buy your Palace spot.

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Crystal Palace is for sale... ;)
Very tempting!!

Out of interest if I did go for Palace does that mean I will end up with all Palace players? Will I have the chance to draw chase cards (jersey, auto) from players of other teams?

If Portlaw or anyone can answer that, then I will buy your Palace spot.

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I'll do my best to try clear it up for your James :) if you for example get crystal palace you will get all cards of crystal palace players, that means all base jersey and auto cards of that team. If a dual card of for example palace and hull is pulled, the fairest thing to do would be random draw it. If for example a pele auto is pulled it will be random draw among everyone to see who gets it as he wont have a team in the premier league. Hope this helps
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