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First pics, release date and information; First pics, release date and information
Topic Started: Jan 29 2014, 05:44 PM (11,733 Views)
Renko
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Feb 9 2014, 10:20 PM
Double Trouble ratio 1 in 100 packets? Wow.
Is this not just excessively difficult?
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Feb 12 2014, 11:04 AM
Do you like maths? I like.
if all cards would be on average in boosters as panini sugest so count:
e.g 1 sp in 7 packs so for 32 sp we need 32*7 packs =224 packs, it meaqns that to collect 32 sp we need open 224 packs
if we count the same for others to collect need:

32 Star player - 1 in 7 packs 32*7=224packs
25 Utility player - 1 in 8 packs 25*8=200
25 One to Watch – 1 in 8 packs =200
27 Fan’s Favourite – 1 in 8 packs =216
9 Experts – 1 in 8 packs 9*8=72 (only 72!)
18 Defensive Rocks – 1 in 12 packs 18*12=216
9 Goal Stoppers – 1 in 9 packs 9*9=81
32 Team Logos – 1 pε 17 paket 32*17=544!! (to collect all 32 need 544 packs
if logo will be as often as panini suggest)
18 Game Changers – 1 in 17 packs 18*17=306
6 Top Masters – 1 in 35 packs 6*35=210
5 Double Trouble – 1 in 100 packs 5*100=500
5 Icons – 1 in 40 packs =200
5 Goal Machines – 1 in 60 packs =300

so if we opened 500 boosters we can collect on averae all cards apat from logos.o f course panini don't put cards as they suggest from my expirience.
Okay I'm not a maths genius, but if you opened 500 packs you could expect to get 5 Double Trouble cards - not 5 different Double Trouble cards. My pen and paper calculation is 1,142 packs on average to get 5 different cards (you'd also get 6.42 duplicates :D)

workings: 100 to get the first one (of 5), 125 to get one of the remaining 4, 167 to get one of the remaining 3, 250 to get one of the remaining 2, 500 to get the last one. This is an average; could be more or less :doh

So I think its a bit excessively hard

I challenge anyone to open 1,142 packs and not curse when they still need a couple of team logos and a double trouble B)
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More maths...I make it an average 2,208 packets required to complete the whole set of team logos, if they are in 1 in 17 packets and there is, obviously, 32 team logos.

On the positive side you'd have 67 duplicate logos (and two entire sets of double trouble cards).

Does anyone have a higher qualification in statistics or mathematics?
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Oh no I understood you were talking about the average number of packets to get 32 team logos (including duplicates). And I am talking about the average number of packets to get a full set of logos.

Yes you could trade some duplicates, but you'll be very lucky if you trade all your duplicates, so the actual number of packets required is somewhere inbetween our two figures.
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9 cards in a UK pack :)

Wasn't it going to be 6?

9 for £1 is great and really takes the World Cup battle to Topps

Picked up a starter pack with Aguero today; other limiteds I saw were Ashley Cole *eye roll*, Mario Balotelli and Eden Hazard
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Feb 20 2014, 11:26 AM
Also, here are the odds for those interested:

Star players 1:4
Utility players & Ones to watch & Fans Favourites & Experts 1:5
Defensive rocks & Goal stoppers 1:6
Team logos 1:9
Game changers 1:11
Top masters 1:23
Double trouble 1:66
Yup the odds are a straight reduction by one-third from those previously stated, in line with getting 9 cards in a pack rather than 6 :clap
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I've tried the front 3 left packets from 4 boxes and got nothing better than an Expert. I did get 2 double trouble in 50 packets from European blisters today, so I'm happier about the front left myth ;)
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I got the Brazil goal stopper Cesar 3 times in my first 5 packs. I've had 3 Neuers in 70 packs
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