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Case Break 2 - by Lynettedoolin - members involved please read.
Topic Started: Jan 31 2014, 09:03 PM (3,682 Views)
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Hi all,

As Lynette does not seem to be bothered to reply to my request for an update despite being on here several times since my post I suggest you all claim refunds via PAYPAL for you money.

Phil has contacted BLOWOUT cards and has been told an order was placed but payment failed. Blowout have tried to contact Lynette without success.

Lynette may well have sourced through another avenue but I think you should assume the worst and look to reclaim your money as a matter of urgency.

If a case arrives and your cards are eventually sent you should pay on receipt.

I'm very sorry that this has happened on here after such a great break by Portlaw.

We will be defining some very strict rules for future case breaks on this forum.

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I hope this doesn't put members off future case breaks. I think they are great for the community spirit of the forum.
Can we use this thread to make suggestions on what rules we can put in place for future breaks?
I'd certainly still be happy to take part in another Premier Gold case break. I'm even happy to run it if we set any needed rules in place first.
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Having never raised a paypal dispute before, is everyone just escalating straight away or waiting for a response from Lynette via paypal?
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hi pholla65.

you could leave it a day or 2.

give lynette a chance to reply.

if this has went wrong and she doesnt reply then thats more to back your claim.

paypal will look at all the info given in each case and make a decision.

those paying through paypal via credit card may have another layer of protection.
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Jan 31 2014, 10:24 PM
hi pholla65.

you could leave it a day or 2.

give lynette a chance to reply.

if this has went wrong and she doesnt reply then thats more to back your claim.

paypal will look at all the info given in each case and make a decision.

those paying through paypal via credit card may have another layer of protection.
Thanks, sounds sensible.
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I'm not very sure as to how one gets a refund via paypal. My account is limited and I can't receive payments on paypal. Anyway I can get the refund if this doesn't end up going through? I do have another account where I receive can receive money but the one I paid from is limited. Any help would be appreciated
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Feb 1 2014, 03:35 AM
I'm not very sure as to how one gets a refund via paypal. My account is limited and I can't receive payments on paypal. Anyway I can get the refund if this doesn't end up going through? I do have another account where I receive can receive money but the one I paid from is limited. Any help would be appreciated
I'm pretty sure that this won't count as you getting paid but rather you getting a refund for your purchase. Whether you are limited or not paypal will always cover customers against being scammed so you should be able to do so :)
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Bibster and monkey76 you are both trusted traders of lynettedoolin, does this mean you have her address as this will be useful!! I had 3 teams in this break so I am more than a little annoyed and would appreciate any help in getting my £151 back.
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I'm sure you will all be ok as long as you didn't pay by gift.

Everyone should -

Open a case

Explain what you were buying and the time it should have been there. Just say football cards etc.

Say on your case you want your cards but as seller has went quiet and the agreed timescales have not been met you have opened a case to see if you can get a response.

Leave this case for say 5 days. When seller doesnt reply it adds weight to your case.

Then escalate your case and PayPal will sort it.

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Mine has been escalated to a claim. I opened the case last night and then saw she was on here but did not reply to my PM to her that had been sent earlier in the day.
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Makes you wonder if PAYPAL will instigate some sort of action against her when they get a whole load of claims for one person!
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Feb 1 2014, 01:17 PM
Makes you wonder if PAYPAL will instigate some sort of action against her when they get a whole load of claims for one person!
i reported a con man on ebay but they were claiming for lost items and i contacted other sellers who all had the same problem so i contacted ebay and paypal but they weren't interested so got in touch with the police and told the con man i'd passed on his details and all of the claims were dropped,this could well be a police matter also.
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Whilst I don't like the possibility of being ripped off (which I am not suggesting has happened at all as lynette has not responded to anything so we do not know the reasons why this has not gone through), its the whole principle of it which puts people off getting involved at other times. Not sure if Paypal will do anything but due to the amount involved then it is close to coming under fraud I would guess which does open it up to other avenues.

For me I no longer want any part of it and will accept a full refund only.
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I think that a small group of people should be made approved group break hosts like on blowout. Where most members have the name member or moderator some could have approved group break host or something. There would have to be certain criteria to become one like over 18 basic stuff like that (not sure if lynette was). Only these members could then host case breaks and would make people feel a lot more comfortable about joining knowing there are trusted members on the site who will look after the break, just a thought?
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I think that's a great idea from Portlaw.
I don't see any reason why we can't hold regular case breaks in the future if things are done properly.
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An Escrow type of thing where money is held by a third party until the time comes to make payment could also work

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Escrow
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Feb 1 2014, 02:02 PM
An Escrow type of thing where money is held by a third party until the time comes to make payment could also work

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Escrow
Can a claim be made if the member does not send the cards like it can be with paypal?
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Payments would still be made by Paypal just to a nominated third party. I only used the link as an example of what I meant to be honest.
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Feb 1 2014, 02:31 PM
Payments would still be made by Paypal just to a nominated third party. I only used the link as an example of what I meant to be honest.
Oh yes I see what you mean now. But would the third party would still then send the money onto who was doing the break? Or would the third party just pay direct because there address will be linked with the paypal as many companies ship from the paypal address? The third party would also have to be nominated the same way as an approved group break host
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just a point. have you all checked to see if all the money has been payed in to the same account.
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I have also escalated directly to a claim - hopefully, that doesn't go against me. I did write very politely though. :)
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Payments would still be made by Paypal just to a nominated third party. I only used the link as an example of what I meant to be honest.
Oh yes I see what you mean now. But would the third party would still then send the money onto who was doing the break? Or would the third party just pay direct because there address will be linked with the paypal as many companies ship from the paypal address? The third party would also have to be nominated the same way as an approved group break host
I think thats something that would have to be discussed and sorted as and when, lots of things we would need to be happy with all round.
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Lynette is on line now!!! Please respond to everyone Lynette
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you have got more chance of seeing lord lucan rideing shergar on rivington pike then get a responce from lynettedoolin read the posts. philld was very suspicious. but still took part ?
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Lynette is on line now!!! Please respond to everyone Lynette
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Lynette is online right now as well. Lost my chance of getting any united cards off a case break! Was my only hope!! Only if I get a full refund off paypal will I be able to get any at all!
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those affected will be covered by paypal. be it 1 person or 100.

im pretty sure all will be refunded IF they paid by normal paypal and not gift.

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Feb 1 2014, 04:03 PM
you have got more chance of seeing lord lucan rideing shergar on rivington pike then get a responce from lynettedoolin read the posts. philld was very suspicious. but still took part ?
I was wary but still took part, god knows why.
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you have got more chance of seeing lord lucan rideing shergar on rivington pike then get a responce from lynettedoolin read the posts. philld was very suspicious. but still took part ?
I agree, but still find it very strange that lynettedoolin is still browsing the forum without any explanation whatsoever, surely you would log out and then browse. very disappointed by the whole episode to be honest, and looks like I will have to contact paypal too
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What bothers me is this - She insisted that people pay as "not gift" and still tries to "avoid" sending ? Makes no sense. PayPal will certainly refund everyone, I would“t worry about that guys.
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What bothers me is this - She insisted that people pay as "not gift" and still tries to "avoid" sending ? Makes no sense. PayPal will certainly refund everyone, I would“t worry about that guys.
The only explanation I can think of is that the case hits were worth more than the case and she is trying to make a profit on it
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Makes sense Portlaw!
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What bothers me is this - She insisted that people pay as "not gift" and still tries to "avoid" sending ? Makes no sense. PayPal will certainly refund everyone, I would“t worry about that guys.
The only explanation I can think of is that the case hits were worth more than the case and she is trying to make a profit on it
She hasn't had the case though, it hasn't been sent to her.
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Feb 1 2014, 06:58 PM
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What bothers me is this - She insisted that people pay as "not gift" and still tries to "avoid" sending ? Makes no sense. PayPal will certainly refund everyone, I would“t worry about that guys.
The only explanation I can think of is that the case hits were worth more than the case and she is trying to make a profit on it
She hasn't had the case though, it hasn't been sent to her.
In that case there is no reason as to why Lynette shouldn't give a refund, paypal will refund all your money back and then the debt collector on behalf of paypal will look for the money back from Lynette if it is not still in the account. Criminal action can be taken here, especially with the value in question over $1000, I've seen it happen over less
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What do you think, how much more to wait before starting to withdraw money?
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I would hope lynette reads this and responds with full refunds to everyone involved to be honest without the need for anyone to take it further. The fact that she is not replying to messages from people or even attempting to defend herself in this topic is not doing her any favours.
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I bought something from lynette on ebay over the spring. TERRIBLE EXPERIENCE.... would never buy from her again. Here's the thread:

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I would stay away from this person. I don't even know what happened with the case break but 2 red flags is too many

Everyone who was screwed, if you paid by paypal file a chargeback with your CREDIT CARD Company you paid with via paypal. This always works as long it is within 45 days of the transaction and you didn't send the money as a "gift" option
Don't think thats the same person to be honest, that person is from Yorkshire, lynette is from Southampton about 250 miles away i'd guess.

lynette has been online again but not replied to message, not doing herself any favours.
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i have no idea about this someone has used my account and paypal im trying to find who sorry to anyone involved and if you still want the card i can work to find a solution with who ever sorted the break in the first place
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Hi lynette.

If you dont know who used your account how can you find out who arranged the break?

id say the best thing to do is refund all payments and put the matter behind us all
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