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new match attax extra cards in motd mag mata & hazard hth
Topic Started: Mar 10 2014, 01:16 PM (4,279 Views)
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just seen on facebook that in tomorrows 11th march match of the day magazine there is going to be 18 match attax extra cards with a picture of mata and hazard hat tick hero cards

it says this
Exciting stuff for all ‪#‎MatchAttax‬ fans – there will be 18 awesome Match Attax Extra cards available in this week’s Match of the Day Magazine, look out for new signings like Juan Mata.

Watch this space for more info….
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Quite some people moaning about Topps in this topic. I don't really understand why. If you are not happy with how they operate, then don't buy their stuff. No one is forcing you to collect every single card, as no one is forcing families on limited budgets with more than 1 child. And have you ever thought about collectors from other countries, where Topps happily distributes their UK version of Match Attax, for whom it is almost impossible to lay hands on all these cards that only come out in the UK?

As far as I know, the MOTD magazine is not owned by Topps. The same goes for other media through which Topps cards were distributed this year. So is Topps gonna earn a lot of money from this? I doubt it very much. This is just their way of promoting their sets.

I like how they make special cards available through various channels, it makes collecting fun and doesn't limit people to just buying and opening packets.
Totally agree with harrodjon about you missing the point.

If you are a collector of cards then despite your unhappiness with the quality you will buy the items regardless especially as a one club collector and they appeal to children who are not as bothered I would guess with the quality as long as they have them. Doesn't mean you are not allowed an opinion on them which this forum is a vehicle for giving that opinion.

Topps have dropped massively in terms of quality in recent times especially with the rushed out and absolutely shocking Match Attax Extra this year. Also, whilst no-one forces families on limited budgets to buy them how is it right that kids who collect cards are then having to miss out on items due to the way they are distributed whether by Topps or Match of the Day magazine (who incidentally will have discussed with Topps how that distribution will happen so Topps will be aware). A fairer or more realistic way would have been to issue with the weekly Match of the Day magazine over a period of weeks instead of a special issue.

I also fail to understand your point about collectors from other countries. The Premier League is a UK collection for UK teams and is more available elsewhere than cards from other countries are and they do release all the cards that are with the collection released in that country (ie Russia has one Limited Edition with that collection, the Asian version has two so all cards in that collection are available in those countries). The cards they release here are for the UK version so why would they release those cards elsewhere ? the versions released in Asia, Russia etc are not released here in UK so other countries get access to items UK collectors don't, swings and roundabouts.
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Addendum to my last post; no Lewis Holtby new signing card in the Extra Extra cards, wtf?!?! He's clearly a significant signing.

Oh yes, Holtby is resplendent in Spurs kit in the Extra :fing
Could you imagine having a player at 2 different clubs kits in the same collection? I think that would make it more of a joke than it already is
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Addendum to my last post; no Lewis Holtby new signing card in the Extra Extra cards, wtf?!?! He's clearly a significant signing.

Oh yes, Holtby is resplendent in Spurs kit in the Extra :fing
Could you imagine having a player at 2 different clubs kits in the same collection? I think that would make it more of a joke than it already is
My comment was tongue in cheek really ;) . Holtby joined Fulham until the end of the season on 31 January. There is something especially wrong with Topps' processes to release the Extra set, at the end of February, featuring Holtby for the wrong club.
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I thought it might be. I wouldn't put anything past Topps at the moment tho :)
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Quite some people moaning about Topps in this topic. I don't really understand why. If you are not happy with how they operate, then don't buy their stuff. No one is forcing you to collect every single card, as no one is forcing families on limited budgets with more than 1 child. And have you ever thought about collectors from other countries, where Topps happily distributes their UK version of Match Attax, for whom it is almost impossible to lay hands on all these cards that only come out in the UK?

As far as I know, the MOTD magazine is not owned by Topps. The same goes for other media through which Topps cards were distributed this year. So is Topps gonna earn a lot of money from this? I doubt it very much. This is just their way of promoting their sets.

I like how they make special cards available through various channels, it makes collecting fun and doesn't limit people to just buying and opening packets.
Totally agree with harrodjon about you missing the point.

If you are a collector of cards then despite your unhappiness with the quality you will buy the items regardless especially as a one club collector and they appeal to children who are not as bothered I would guess with the quality as long as they have them. Doesn't mean you are not allowed an opinion on them which this forum is a vehicle for giving that opinion.

Topps have dropped massively in terms of quality in recent times especially with the rushed out and absolutely shocking Match Attax Extra this year. Also, whilst no-one forces families on limited budgets to buy them how is it right that kids who collect cards are then having to miss out on items due to the way they are distributed whether by Topps or Match of the Day magazine (who incidentally will have discussed with Topps how that distribution will happen so Topps will be aware). A fairer or more realistic way would have been to issue with the weekly Match of the Day magazine over a period of weeks instead of a special issue.

I also fail to understand your point about collectors from other countries. The Premier League is a UK collection for UK teams and is more available elsewhere than cards from other countries are and they do release all the cards that are with the collection released in that country (ie Russia has one Limited Edition with that collection, the Asian version has two so all cards in that collection are available in those countries). The cards they release here are for the UK version so why would they release those cards elsewhere ? the versions released in Asia, Russia etc are not released here in UK so other countries get access to items UK collectors don't, swings and roundabouts.
Thanks for the clarification, I now understand better why people are upset with this promotion. Still, whatever reason Topps had to release the Extra set too early, I think this is not a bad way to release cards that didn't make the normal Extra set. This promotion might not be as cheap for collectors as the similar promotion a few months ago with a newspaper (The Sun??), but I understand that Topps is not a charity organization and I can imagine that they will look for a partner that suits their interests best.

It's everyone's right to complain, but when everyone still buys the stuff they are unhappy about, the complaints become a bit laughable. It would be the same as you complain about the government and during the next elections, you still vote for them.
Let's be honest, GBP 9 is still way too cheap for you guys to really have a problem with this promotion. And kids will miss out on things all the time, just as you and me are. I would like to have a Cristiano Ronaldo autographed card from Topps Premier Gold, but I cannot afford it. That's life.

And about collectors from other countries: I am talking about other countries than the UK where the UK version of Match Attax is released. The people there don't have the opportunity to buy the MOTD magazine at the newsagent's. For these people it is even harder and much more expensive to complete their collection. They are the people who should complain!
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I'm fairly sure if you contact the publisher (Immediate Media) they will arrange to get a magazine sent to you.
I have often done this with Panini when I want a particular limited edition that only comes with Just Kick It in Germany or Poland. They just Paypal invoice me, I pay and they send it. I see no reason why other publishers would not do this.
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Topps have confirmed these 18 cards will be available at the Swap and Play Tour and also available to buy through the individual card service in May.
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Thanks for that information Catherine that will save me going out and buying anymore copies i will just wait until the swap and play tours to pick up more
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Are the Swap and Play / mail order cards likely to have smooth rather than serrated edges?
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Are the Swap and Play / mail order cards likely to have smooth rather than serrated edges?
Not sure about the Swap and Play Tour ones, but the ones from Topps card service will do.
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Just picked up one of each sheet, as like Toby, I collect the full sheets and also like to have one of each card in my album. Going to get the ones for my album either at the Swap and Play Tour or direct from Topps.
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Quite some people moaning about Topps in this topic. I don't really understand why. If you are not happy with how they operate, then don't buy their stuff. No one is forcing you to collect every single card, as no one is forcing families on limited budgets with more than 1 child. And have you ever thought about collectors from other countries, where Topps happily distributes their UK version of Match Attax, for whom it is almost impossible to lay hands on all these cards that only come out in the UK?

As far as I know, the MOTD magazine is not owned by Topps. The same goes for other media through which Topps cards were distributed this year. So is Topps gonna earn a lot of money from this? I doubt it very much. This is just their way of promoting their sets.

I like how they make special cards available through various channels, it makes collecting fun and doesn't limit people to just buying and opening packets.
Totally agree with harrodjon about you missing the point.

If you are a collector of cards then despite your unhappiness with the quality you will buy the items regardless especially as a one club collector and they appeal to children who are not as bothered I would guess with the quality as long as they have them. Doesn't mean you are not allowed an opinion on them which this forum is a vehicle for giving that opinion.

Topps have dropped massively in terms of quality in recent times especially with the rushed out and absolutely shocking Match Attax Extra this year. Also, whilst no-one forces families on limited budgets to buy them how is it right that kids who collect cards are then having to miss out on items due to the way they are distributed whether by Topps or Match of the Day magazine (who incidentally will have discussed with Topps how that distribution will happen so Topps will be aware). A fairer or more realistic way would have been to issue with the weekly Match of the Day magazine over a period of weeks instead of a special issue.

I also fail to understand your point about collectors from other countries. The Premier League is a UK collection for UK teams and is more available elsewhere than cards from other countries are and they do release all the cards that are with the collection released in that country (ie Russia has one Limited Edition with that collection, the Asian version has two so all cards in that collection are available in those countries). The cards they release here are for the UK version so why would they release those cards elsewhere ? the versions released in Asia, Russia etc are not released here in UK so other countries get access to items UK collectors don't, swings and roundabouts.
Thanks for the clarification, I now understand better why people are upset with this promotion. Still, whatever reason Topps had to release the Extra set too early, I think this is not a bad way to release cards that didn't make the normal Extra set. This promotion might not be as cheap for collectors as the similar promotion a few months ago with a newspaper (The Sun??), but I understand that Topps is not a charity organization and I can imagine that they will look for a partner that suits their interests best.

It's everyone's right to complain, but when everyone still buys the stuff they are unhappy about, the complaints become a bit laughable. It would be the same as you complain about the government and during the next elections, you still vote for them.
Let's be honest, GBP 9 is still way too cheap for you guys to really have a problem with this promotion. And kids will miss out on things all the time, just as you and me are. I would like to have a Cristiano Ronaldo autographed card from Topps Premier Gold, but I cannot afford it. That's life.

And about collectors from other countries: I am talking about other countries than the UK where the UK version of Match Attax is released. The people there don't have the opportunity to buy the MOTD magazine at the newsagent's. For these people it is even harder and much more expensive to complete their collection. They are the people who should complain!
You really don't understand when it come to your note of the fact that nine pounds isn't much it is, trust me.

I'm twelve and as an Avid collector of all cards and merch I have to spend all my money on cards... considering the fact I get four pounds a week pocket money... and I've recently had to invest on full box(es!!) its a struggle. Add that to numerous more magazines and a mutlipack its a real tight squeeze.

What I ask is why the hell didn't they put them in the set in the first place?
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I'm with MatchAttaxMaster101. If they'd have just waited a little while longer, the Extra set could have been a lot better.

Seems to be a mini industry in reselling the promo sheets as singles for one club 'completist' collectors like me!
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Lacina Traore in Everton's kit from last season!! Not a photoshop at all...
last season's kit :sf4 maybe there will be an Extra Extra Extra update

I believe Mitroglou and Heitinga are photoshopped onto Berbatov :welcom
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I don't really want to have to go through all the hassle of searching through magazines. On the off-chance that Topps don't bother putting them out on swap&play, does anyone have spare sheets for sale?
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Unbelievable from Topps!!! :rant How can you add last seasons kit? :rant Also it's terrible how they have phtotoshopped the tallest player in our squad (6ft8) onto our smallest player Francisco Junior (5ft 4) http://www.zimbio.com/photos/Francisco+Junior/Morecambe+v+Everton+Pre+Season+Friendly/QORmCpyflGx Terrible stuff from Topps :rant
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Quite some people moaning about Topps in this topic. I don't really understand why. If you are not happy with how they operate, then don't buy their stuff. No one is forcing you to collect every single card, as no one is forcing families on limited budgets with more than 1 child. And have you ever thought about collectors from other countries, where Topps happily distributes their UK version of Match Attax, for whom it is almost impossible to lay hands on all these cards that only come out in the UK?

As far as I know, the MOTD magazine is not owned by Topps. The same goes for other media through which Topps cards were distributed this year. So is Topps gonna earn a lot of money from this? I doubt it very much. This is just their way of promoting their sets.

I like how they make special cards available through various channels, it makes collecting fun and doesn't limit people to just buying and opening packets.
Totally agree with harrodjon about you missing the point.

If you are a collector of cards then despite your unhappiness with the quality you will buy the items regardless especially as a one club collector and they appeal to children who are not as bothered I would guess with the quality as long as they have them. Doesn't mean you are not allowed an opinion on them which this forum is a vehicle for giving that opinion.

Topps have dropped massively in terms of quality in recent times especially with the rushed out and absolutely shocking Match Attax Extra this year. Also, whilst no-one forces families on limited budgets to buy them how is it right that kids who collect cards are then having to miss out on items due to the way they are distributed whether by Topps or Match of the Day magazine (who incidentally will have discussed with Topps how that distribution will happen so Topps will be aware). A fairer or more realistic way would have been to issue with the weekly Match of the Day magazine over a period of weeks instead of a special issue.

I also fail to understand your point about collectors from other countries. The Premier League is a UK collection for UK teams and is more available elsewhere than cards from other countries are and they do release all the cards that are with the collection released in that country (ie Russia has one Limited Edition with that collection, the Asian version has two so all cards in that collection are available in those countries). The cards they release here are for the UK version so why would they release those cards elsewhere ? the versions released in Asia, Russia etc are not released here in UK so other countries get access to items UK collectors don't, swings and roundabouts.
Thanks for the clarification, I now understand better why people are upset with this promotion. Still, whatever reason Topps had to release the Extra set too early, I think this is not a bad way to release cards that didn't make the normal Extra set. This promotion might not be as cheap for collectors as the similar promotion a few months ago with a newspaper (The Sun??), but I understand that Topps is not a charity organization and I can imagine that they will look for a partner that suits their interests best.

It's everyone's right to complain, but when everyone still buys the stuff they are unhappy about, the complaints become a bit laughable. It would be the same as you complain about the government and during the next elections, you still vote for them.
Let's be honest, GBP 9 is still way too cheap for you guys to really have a problem with this promotion. And kids will miss out on things all the time, just as you and me are. I would like to have a Cristiano Ronaldo autographed card from Topps Premier Gold, but I cannot afford it. That's life.

And about collectors from other countries: I am talking about other countries than the UK where the UK version of Match Attax is released. The people there don't have the opportunity to buy the MOTD magazine at the newsagent's. For these people it is even harder and much more expensive to complete their collection. They are the people who should complain!
You really don't understand when it come to your note of the fact that nine pounds isn't much it is, trust me.

I'm twelve and as an Avid collector of all cards and merch I have to spend all my money on cards... considering the fact I get four pounds a week pocket money... and I've recently had to invest on full box(es!!) its a struggle. Add that to numerous more magazines and a mutlipack its a real tight squeeze.

What I ask is why the hell didn't they put them in the set in the first place?
Sorry, but I couldn't resist joining in this debate.

Firstly, you say you HAVE to spend all your money on cards...There's no government decree...Who's forcing you?

Also, being only 12 and having £4 a week pocket money I think it is unrealistic that you expect to be able to collect the whole set anyway.
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Quite some people moaning about Topps in this topic. I don't really understand why. If you are not happy with how they operate, then don't buy their stuff. No one is forcing you to collect every single card, as no one is forcing families on limited budgets with more than 1 child. And have you ever thought about collectors from other countries, where Topps happily distributes their UK version of Match Attax, for whom it is almost impossible to lay hands on all these cards that only come out in the UK?

As far as I know, the MOTD magazine is not owned by Topps. The same goes for other media through which Topps cards were distributed this year. So is Topps gonna earn a lot of money from this? I doubt it very much. This is just their way of promoting their sets.

I like how they make special cards available through various channels, it makes collecting fun and doesn't limit people to just buying and opening packets.
Totally agree with harrodjon about you missing the point.

If you are a collector of cards then despite your unhappiness with the quality you will buy the items regardless especially as a one club collector and they appeal to children who are not as bothered I would guess with the quality as long as they have them. Doesn't mean you are not allowed an opinion on them which this forum is a vehicle for giving that opinion.

Topps have dropped massively in terms of quality in recent times especially with the rushed out and absolutely shocking Match Attax Extra this year. Also, whilst no-one forces families on limited budgets to buy them how is it right that kids who collect cards are then having to miss out on items due to the way they are distributed whether by Topps or Match of the Day magazine (who incidentally will have discussed with Topps how that distribution will happen so Topps will be aware). A fairer or more realistic way would have been to issue with the weekly Match of the Day magazine over a period of weeks instead of a special issue.

I also fail to understand your point about collectors from other countries. The Premier League is a UK collection for UK teams and is more available elsewhere than cards from other countries are and they do release all the cards that are with the collection released in that country (ie Russia has one Limited Edition with that collection, the Asian version has two so all cards in that collection are available in those countries). The cards they release here are for the UK version so why would they release those cards elsewhere ? the versions released in Asia, Russia etc are not released here in UK so other countries get access to items UK collectors don't, swings and roundabouts.
Thanks for the clarification, I now understand better why people are upset with this promotion. Still, whatever reason Topps had to release the Extra set too early, I think this is not a bad way to release cards that didn't make the normal Extra set. This promotion might not be as cheap for collectors as the similar promotion a few months ago with a newspaper (The Sun??), but I understand that Topps is not a charity organization and I can imagine that they will look for a partner that suits their interests best.

It's everyone's right to complain, but when everyone still buys the stuff they are unhappy about, the complaints become a bit laughable. It would be the same as you complain about the government and during the next elections, you still vote for them.
Let's be honest, GBP 9 is still way too cheap for you guys to really have a problem with this promotion. And kids will miss out on things all the time, just as you and me are. I would like to have a Cristiano Ronaldo autographed card from Topps Premier Gold, but I cannot afford it. That's life.

And about collectors from other countries: I am talking about other countries than the UK where the UK version of Match Attax is released. The people there don't have the opportunity to buy the MOTD magazine at the newsagent's. For these people it is even harder and much more expensive to complete their collection. They are the people who should complain!
You really don't understand when it come to your note of the fact that nine pounds isn't much it is, trust me.

I'm twelve and as an Avid collector of all cards and merch I have to spend all my money on cards... considering the fact I get four pounds a week pocket money... and I've recently had to invest on full box(es!!) its a struggle. Add that to numerous more magazines and a mutlipack its a real tight squeeze.

What I ask is why the hell didn't they put them in the set in the first place?
Sorry, but I couldn't resist joining in this debate.

Firstly, you say you HAVE to spend all your money on cards...There's no government decree...Who's forcing you?

Also, being only 12 and having £4 a week pocket money I think it is unrealistic that you expect to be able to collect the whole set anyway.
£4 a week, £200 or so a year, which is more than enough, it is realistic to be able to collect the whole set, also who do you think Topps are marketing to? Who wants to collect and not have a full set?
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Quite some people moaning about Topps in this topic. I don't really understand why. If you are not happy with how they operate, then don't buy their stuff. No one is forcing you to collect every single card, as no one is forcing families on limited budgets with more than 1 child. And have you ever thought about collectors from other countries, where Topps happily distributes their UK version of Match Attax, for whom it is almost impossible to lay hands on all these cards that only come out in the UK?

As far as I know, the MOTD magazine is not owned by Topps. The same goes for other media through which Topps cards were distributed this year. So is Topps gonna earn a lot of money from this? I doubt it very much. This is just their way of promoting their sets.

I like how they make special cards available through various channels, it makes collecting fun and doesn't limit people to just buying and opening packets.
Totally agree with harrodjon about you missing the point.

If you are a collector of cards then despite your unhappiness with the quality you will buy the items regardless especially as a one club collector and they appeal to children who are not as bothered I would guess with the quality as long as they have them. Doesn't mean you are not allowed an opinion on them which this forum is a vehicle for giving that opinion.

Topps have dropped massively in terms of quality in recent times especially with the rushed out and absolutely shocking Match Attax Extra this year. Also, whilst no-one forces families on limited budgets to buy them how is it right that kids who collect cards are then having to miss out on items due to the way they are distributed whether by Topps or Match of the Day magazine (who incidentally will have discussed with Topps how that distribution will happen so Topps will be aware). A fairer or more realistic way would have been to issue with the weekly Match of the Day magazine over a period of weeks instead of a special issue.

I also fail to understand your point about collectors from other countries. The Premier League is a UK collection for UK teams and is more available elsewhere than cards from other countries are and they do release all the cards that are with the collection released in that country (ie Russia has one Limited Edition with that collection, the Asian version has two so all cards in that collection are available in those countries). The cards they release here are for the UK version so why would they release those cards elsewhere ? the versions released in Asia, Russia etc are not released here in UK so other countries get access to items UK collectors don't, swings and roundabouts.
Thanks for the clarification, I now understand better why people are upset with this promotion. Still, whatever reason Topps had to release the Extra set too early, I think this is not a bad way to release cards that didn't make the normal Extra set. This promotion might not be as cheap for collectors as the similar promotion a few months ago with a newspaper (The Sun??), but I understand that Topps is not a charity organization and I can imagine that they will look for a partner that suits their interests best.

It's everyone's right to complain, but when everyone still buys the stuff they are unhappy about, the complaints become a bit laughable. It would be the same as you complain about the government and during the next elections, you still vote for them.
Let's be honest, GBP 9 is still way too cheap for you guys to really have a problem with this promotion. And kids will miss out on things all the time, just as you and me are. I would like to have a Cristiano Ronaldo autographed card from Topps Premier Gold, but I cannot afford it. That's life.

And about collectors from other countries: I am talking about other countries than the UK where the UK version of Match Attax is released. The people there don't have the opportunity to buy the MOTD magazine at the newsagent's. For these people it is even harder and much more expensive to complete their collection. They are the people who should complain!
You really don't understand when it come to your note of the fact that nine pounds isn't much it is, trust me.

I'm twelve and as an Avid collector of all cards and merch I have to spend all my money on cards... considering the fact I get four pounds a week pocket money... and I've recently had to invest on full box(es!!) its a struggle. Add that to numerous more magazines and a mutlipack its a real tight squeeze.

What I ask is why the hell didn't they put them in the set in the first place?
Sorry, but I couldn't resist joining in this debate.

Firstly, you say you HAVE to spend all your money on cards...There's no government decree...Who's forcing you?

Also, being only 12 and having £4 a week pocket money I think it is unrealistic that you expect to be able to collect the whole set anyway.
£4 a week, £200 or so a year, which is more than enough, it is realistic to be able to collect the whole set, also who do you think Topps are marketing to? Who wants to collect and not have a full set?
Match Attax is mainly marketed at roughly 8-13 year olds if I'm not mistaken?

I would be willing to bet you that 80% of people who collect Match Attax won't complete the set and won't really be that bothered that they can't complete the set.
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They might not complete the set, but I bet they will try hard to. They will also pester their parents to do everything they can to help them complete it.
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£200 would never complete the set considering the fact that the subscription to match attax magazine to get three aguero cards is £104. That leaves one box to fill a binder which is not possible not to mention the various newspapers and magazines which would have to be bought.
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They might not complete the set, but I bet they will try hard to. They will also pester their parents to do everything they can to help them complete it.
No, I think you're wrong, I think that the vast majority of 'collectors' that fall into the target market won't be at all bothered about completing the set. They'll care much more about how many shinies they have and if they've got better cards than their friends. I know it may come as a shock to us 'hardcore' collectors on here, but most collectors of that age really don't give a t*ss!
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My comment was based on 2 things that I have experience of in my life.
The first was while working The Entertainer toy shop. We would run regular swap shops that were hugely popular. I would say that more than half of the kids we sold Match Attax to, came in to swap cards. They did this to try and complete their collection. When we helped a child get the last card they needed, you could see their excitement. You could also see the other kids happy for him/her and eager to look at their completed collections.
My second experience is as a retailer of cards. I currently make a living out of selling trading cards. The bulk of my sales come from single cards. They aren't all foil/special cards. I sell a large amount of base cards. Why? Because people want to finish their (or more likely their child's) collection.
In regards to alanaman, this topic is about Match Attax Extra . A box of this years collection will give you a complete set. Well, all the cards you can get from opening packets (apart from possibly a signed Wilshere)
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Mar 18 2014, 10:29 PM
£200 would never complete the set considering the fact that the subscription to match attax magazine to get three aguero cards is £104. That leaves one box to fill a binder which is not possible not to mention the various newspapers and magazines which would have to be bought.
That's where birthday, Christmas and (in some cases) a reward for final good marks at school kick in... I suppose.
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My comment was based on 2 things that I have experience of in my life.
The first was while working The Entertainer toy shop. We would run regular swap shops that were hugely popular. I would say that more than half of the kids we sold Match Attax to, came in to swap cards. They did this to try and complete their collection. When we helped a child get the last card they needed, you could see their excitement. You could also see the other kids happy for him/her and eager to look at their completed collections.
My second experience is as a retailer of cards. I currently make a living out of selling trading cards. The bulk of my sales come from single cards. They aren't all foil/special cards. I sell a large amount of base cards. Why? Because people want to finish their (or more likely their child's) collection.
In regards to alanaman, this topic is about Match Attax Extra . A box of this years collection will give you a complete set. Well, all the cards you can get from opening packets (apart from possibly a signed Wilshere)
Totally agree about the base cards. I have regular customers who buy either base cards to complete sets, cards of specific players or teams and also those who collect autographs so buy specific players to get signed when they are playing their clubs.
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My comment was based on 2 things that I have experience of in my life.
The first was while working The Entertainer toy shop. We would run regular swap shops that were hugely popular. I would say that more than half of the kids we sold Match Attax to, came in to swap cards. They did this to try and complete their collection. When we helped a child get the last card they needed, you could see their excitement. You could also see the other kids happy for him/her and eager to look at their completed collections.
My second experience is as a retailer of cards. I currently make a living out of selling trading cards. The bulk of my sales come from single cards. They aren't all foil/special cards. I sell a large amount of base cards. Why? Because people want to finish their (or more likely their child's) collection.
In regards to alanaman, this topic is about Match Attax Extra . A box of this years collection will give you a complete set. Well, all the cards you can get from opening packets (apart from possibly a signed Wilshere)
Fair point if you are just talking about the extras but the £200 was based on a full years pocket money which would have to buy the main book and the extras, now thats impossible.
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Mar 18 2014, 11:14 PM
My comment was based on 2 things that I have experience of in my life.
The first was while working The Entertainer toy shop. We would run regular swap shops that were hugely popular. I would say that more than half of the kids we sold Match Attax to, came in to swap cards. They did this to try and complete their collection. When we helped a child get the last card they needed, you could see their excitement. You could also see the other kids happy for him/her and eager to look at their completed collections.
My second experience is as a retailer of cards. I currently make a living out of selling trading cards. The bulk of my sales come from single cards. They aren't all foil/special cards. I sell a large amount of base cards. Why? Because people want to finish their (or more likely their child's) collection.
In regards to alanaman, this topic is about Match Attax Extra . A box of this years collection will give you a complete set. Well, all the cards you can get from opening packets (apart from possibly a signed Wilshere)
Fair point if you are just talking about the extras but the £200 was based on a full years pocket money which would have to buy the main book and the extras, now thats impossible.
Well as previously stated, an Extra box provides a full set, which you can pick up for £30 on eBay. Pretty sure the limited's aren't too much more. I'm sure both sets could easily be completed for £200 or less, with all LE's, you just have to find the right deals..
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At least with Match Attax, you know a box will give you a full base set. Then you can just trade or buy singles for the rest
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My comment was based on 2 things that I have experience of in my life.
The first was while working The Entertainer toy shop. We would run regular swap shops that were hugely popular. I would say that more than half of the kids we sold Match Attax to, came in to swap cards. They did this to try and complete their collection. When we helped a child get the last card they needed, you could see their excitement. You could also see the other kids happy for him/her and eager to look at their completed collections.
My second experience is as a retailer of cards. I currently make a living out of selling trading cards. The bulk of my sales come from single cards. They aren't all foil/special cards. I sell a large amount of base cards. Why? Because people want to finish their (or more likely their child's) collection.
In regards to alanaman, this topic is about Match Attax Extra . A box of this years collection will give you a complete set. Well, all the cards you can get from opening packets (apart from possibly a signed Wilshere)
Fair point if you are just talking about the extras but the £200 was based on a full years pocket money which would have to buy the main book and the extras, now thats impossible.
Well as previously stated, an Extra box provides a full set, which you can pick up for £30 on eBay. Pretty sure the limited's aren't too much more. I'm sure both sets could easily be completed for £200 or less, with all LE's, you just have to find the right deals..
Im not trying to be arguementitive but I really dont believe you could do one book for £200 by buying packets and single shineys never mind two.

£50 - for a full box (if you wait a while) which would give approx full base x 2 , full mirror foil (if your lucky) and approx 20 motm with maybe a couple of motm trades. 2 hundred club.
£40 - minimum buying the remaining motm and hundred club cards singley
£120 - mimimum for 15 limiteds 3x aguero £80 minimum, 3x giggs mags £9 if you hit all three different, £15 for 2 binders and a print me to get the wilshires, possibly £10 if you bought one binder and the rest on ebay. £10 for the 3 gerrards minimum from ebay to save buying multiple tins, 4 sun newspapers £2.
Total approx £212 to collect this and I havent included error cards, master card or the regional heats and finalist cards.

Then there is the extras.............

In saying that you could probably buy both books complete for under £200 but not collect it and there is various difinitions of complete. Some kids will be happy completing the checklist but I call complete having the lot including master and regionals. It is the aguero and toure limiteds and the fact that there is so many limiteds this year which I think would make it impossible to collect it for this money unless you wait till the very end of the season for the swap tour or buy the remaining cards from topps but even then it only knocks about £20 off it. Allow another £20 for selling doubles and you will still struggle to do both books with limiteds.
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Alan. I agree with what you're saying regards different levels of completion.
From those I've spoken to recently, most children, who are after all the target market, are happy enough completing the checklist. But, they do whatever they can to get the checklist complete. It's like a sticker album, nobody has one and is happy to fill 75% of it.
Most children do not take apart in tournaments (most don't even play the game with friends). So they are clearly not bothered by master cards. To be honest, I think most that do take part, do it because their parents are collectors and talk them into it.
Also, most of them couldn't even name all the limited editions, let alone be bothered about collecting them. If they get any, it's a bonus for them.
The point of this thread tho is about cards issued in MOTD. They aren't limited editions, just cards most people would have expected to be in the collection anyway. Most collectors in the right age bracket will by the magazine anyway, regardless of these cards, so I can see why Topps do this. But kids shouldn't need to buy 3 copies just to get the cards that Topps couldn't be bothered to wait an extra 2 weeks to put into packets.
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My comment was based on 2 things that I have experience of in my life.
The first was while working The Entertainer toy shop. We would run regular swap shops that were hugely popular. I would say that more than half of the kids we sold Match Attax to, came in to swap cards. They did this to try and complete their collection. When we helped a child get the last card they needed, you could see their excitement. You could also see the other kids happy for him/her and eager to look at their completed collections.
My second experience is as a retailer of cards. I currently make a living out of selling trading cards. The bulk of my sales come from single cards. They aren't all foil/special cards. I sell a large amount of base cards. Why? Because people want to finish their (or more likely their child's) collection.
In regards to alanaman, this topic is about Match Attax Extra . A box of this years collection will give you a complete set. Well, all the cards you can get from opening packets (apart from possibly a signed Wilshere)
Fair point if you are just talking about the extras but the £200 was based on a full years pocket money which would have to buy the main book and the extras, now thats impossible.
Well as previously stated, an Extra box provides a full set, which you can pick up for £30 on eBay. Pretty sure the limited's aren't too much more. I'm sure both sets could easily be completed for £200 or less, with all LE's, you just have to find the right deals..
Im not trying to be arguementitive but I really dont believe you could do one book for £200 by buying packets and single shineys never mind two.

£50 - for a full box (if you wait a while) which would give approx full base x 2 , full mirror foil (if your lucky) and approx 20 motm with maybe a couple of motm trades. 2 hundred club.
£40 - minimum buying the remaining motm and hundred club cards singley
£120 - mimimum for 15 limiteds 3x aguero £80 minimum, 3x giggs mags £9 if you hit all three different, £15 for 2 binders and a print me to get the wilshires, possibly £10 if you bought one binder and the rest on ebay. £10 for the 3 gerrards minimum from ebay to save buying multiple tins, 4 sun newspapers £2.
Total approx £212 to collect this and I havent included error cards, master card or the regional heats and finalist cards.

Then there is the extras.............

In saying that you could probably buy both books complete for under £200 but not collect it and there is various difinitions of complete. Some kids will be happy completing the checklist but I call complete having the lot including master and regionals. It is the aguero and toure limiteds and the fact that there is so many limiteds this year which I think would make it impossible to collect it for this money unless you wait till the very end of the season for the swap tour or buy the remaining cards from topps but even then it only knocks about £20 off it. Allow another £20 for selling doubles and you will still struggle to do both books with limiteds.
The thing is I managed to pick up 2x full boxes for £20 each, and have one complete book, and one base with around 30 MOTM's, which is with the subscription to the magazine.

However, I got quite a few hundred clubs I already didn't have, so managed to get rid of 2 RVP le's for 15 each and some others for decent.

To get the 24 issues, (to qualify for all 3LE's) is £48, if you cancel it as soon as you get the 24th.

If you're talking about properly completing like Regionals, then surely you mean the Gold ones as well, only one of them made so unless you are the winner pretty much impossible to have a complete set then.

Plus at S&P tour you can get10MOTMs+10 star shines, 40 base for £3.
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Most 'kids' (sory don't mean to be patronising) don't know about foreign variations, and treat any newspaper release stuff as a bonus, but generally consider the checklist as 'the set'.

Whilst I don't doubt they want to complete the set, they aren't 'completists' like many adult colectors with regard to error cards and suchlike.

I did the Panini Mexico 86 sticker album when I was a 11 year old kid, and you'd be amazed how far a limited amount of pocket money and paper round money went, as well as swapping with school friends.
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Ok sorry guys, got to have another pot at this debate, so you said that four pounds pocket money is not enough to get a full set, but chores, extra money given to me, birthday money, christmas etc. make up by far enough. This is my last year collecting, so I would like to complete the set, got an issue with that? hope not.

I know I don't HAVE to get them and nobody is forcing me to... but evidently I have good intentions of completing a set, surely thats what collecting is about in the first place?? If you start a set, whats the point of abandoning it? surely finishing is one of your main intentions? In my opinion starting to collect a set and not completing it is completely stupid? It's a waste of money if you don't intend to complete... and then it will more than likely end up rattling around right at the bottom of the toybox somewhere, what is the actual point of that?

dedication is what is needed. I have practically all the Extra cards, so, i am obviously going to try to get the rest, otherwise it is hours of stress (umm...) and calculating gone out the window for nothing. for me there is two different kinds of collectors...

Theres a SERIOUS collector - who more than likely goes into a set and doesn't stop until they come out (complete the set I mean), and there is a JUST FOR FUN collector... who practically never completes the set (because as I said earlier, the dedication isn't there), and just leaves it, abandons it, leaving a massive hole in the pockets of the parents, who probably forked out tons of money for nothing, ok maybe for some child enjoyment and a bit of peace and quiet away from the moaning children, but it is still not worth it.

I do respect the fact that there are a few who do that intentionally, maybe just to get a taste of the set, or just to get a few packs with a little bit if spare money burning a hole in their wallet... but the majority of sets (I think) don't get completed and that is truly saddening... for me it is anyway, don't judge my opinions on this issue.

I mean just to think that some of these sets fall under the following traps...
-the 'toybox' trap- as spoke about earlier on in this post
-pleeeeez.- when kids have their eye set on cards, and they get purchase and end up vacating a seat beneath the newspapers and packets in the recycling bin. (this is probably the most sad)
-phases- when children start to collect a set, and then when oh-so close to completing ones set it gets abandoned and never talked about again or seen (and then in twenty years a possible heirloom which could be worth a lot of money in the future but isn't because of those heartbreaking gaps is found and greeted with a 'I remember this'!

So yes, basically I'm judging the fact that some of us are saying that sets wont be completed, and I'm saying the pluses and minuses of this subject. once again, don't judge.

Ps- not all kids go begging for money to their parents, others are mature (a good handful, I will note) and save and scrimp, make do with what they have got, and I look up to those kinds of people... i suppose I would say I'm one of them *cough*. Oh yeah, I agree with everything Dorking said.
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There is another type of collector, the adult serious serious collector who goes for a COMPLETE binder including errors, all limiteds, master and regional cards. These are obviously not on the checklist. It is this level of completeness which I am saying cannot be done for under £200. For me only then is the binder complete. Good luck with completing your binder whichever level you strive for.
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There is another type of collector, the adult serious serious collector who goes for a COMPLETE binder including errors, all limiteds, master and regional cards. These are obviously not on the checklist. It is this level of completeness which I am saying cannot be done for under £200. For me only then is the binder complete. Good luck with completing your binder whichever level you strive for.
Well that will be me:-)

And this year Alan I disagree, it depends how you buy them!!

40 MOTD magazines with Trophies and Errors, 40 Magazines with Giggs LE, 24 Tins, 20 Multi packs, 20 Print Me for the Hazard and a subscription to the Magazine. Kids that won me a Masters Card and next week after issue 24 and in 2 weeks at the swap and play I will have all the cards. Oh and 3 boxes.

I admit you need the initial outlay but I have kept a track and I am actually in profit for the set with the sales of all the swaps and I don't keep the 100 clubs as you get them at the swap and play tour.

That was the challenge I set myself this year.

However, I didn't bank on the 4 legends and the signed Wilshere so you could be right.
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There is another type of collector, the adult serious serious collector who goes for a COMPLETE binder including errors, all limiteds, master and regional cards. These are obviously not on the checklist. It is this level of completeness which I am saying cannot be done for under £200. For me only then is the binder complete. Good luck with completing your binder whichever level you strive for.
Well that will be me:-)

And this year Alan I disagree, it depends how you buy them!!

40 MOTD magazines with Trophies and Errors, 40 Magazines with Giggs LE, 24 Tins, 20 Multi packs, 20 Print Me for the Hazard and a subscription to the Magazine. Kids that won me a Masters Card and next week after issue 24 and in 2 weeks at the swap and play I will have all the cards. Oh and 3 boxes.

I admit you need the initial outlay but I have kept a track and I am actually in profit for the set with the sales of all the swaps and I don't keep the 100 clubs as you get them at the swap and play tour.

That was the challenge I set myself this year.

However, I didn't bank on the 4 legends and the signed Wilshere so you could be right.
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I did that for the black book, I bought three boxes and ended up in profit. I sont include the signed cards as the only difference is a hologram but the legends are a different story. I still stick to my original statement that a kid buying packets could not complete everything for under £200. Lol.
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There is another type of collector, the adult serious serious collector who goes for a COMPLETE binder including errors, all limiteds, master and regional cards. These are obviously not on the checklist. It is this level of completeness which I am saying cannot be done for under £200. For me only then is the binder complete. Good luck with completing your binder whichever level you strive for.
Well that will be me:-)

And this year Alan I disagree, it depends how you buy them!!

40 MOTD magazines with Trophies and Errors, 40 Magazines with Giggs LE, 24 Tins, 20 Multi packs, 20 Print Me for the Hazard and a subscription to the Magazine. Kids that won me a Masters Card and next week after issue 24 and in 2 weeks at the swap and play I will have all the cards. Oh and 3 boxes.

I admit you need the initial outlay but I have kept a track and I am actually in profit for the set with the sales of all the swaps and I don't keep the 100 clubs as you get them at the swap and play tour.

That was the challenge I set myself this year.

However, I didn't bank on the 4 legends and the signed Wilshere so you could be right.
Four legends?
@Hattersfan. Here you go

http://www.toppsfootball.co.uk/news/Topps-News/signedlegendcards
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