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new match attax extra cards in motd mag mata & hazard hth
Topic Started: Mar 10 2014, 01:16 PM (4,284 Views)
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Honest? Fing Topps.
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Mar 12 2014, 01:21 PM
Phild
Mar 12 2014, 10:26 AM
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Mar 12 2014, 07:45 AM
Quite some people moaning about Topps in this topic. I don't really understand why. If you are not happy with how they operate, then don't buy their stuff. No one is forcing you to collect every single card, as no one is forcing families on limited budgets with more than 1 child. And have you ever thought about collectors from other countries, where Topps happily distributes their UK version of Match Attax, for whom it is almost impossible to lay hands on all these cards that only come out in the UK?

As far as I know, the MOTD magazine is not owned by Topps. The same goes for other media through which Topps cards were distributed this year. So is Topps gonna earn a lot of money from this? I doubt it very much. This is just their way of promoting their sets.

I like how they make special cards available through various channels, it makes collecting fun and doesn't limit people to just buying and opening packets.
Totally agree with harrodjon about you missing the point.

If you are a collector of cards then despite your unhappiness with the quality you will buy the items regardless especially as a one club collector and they appeal to children who are not as bothered I would guess with the quality as long as they have them. Doesn't mean you are not allowed an opinion on them which this forum is a vehicle for giving that opinion.

Topps have dropped massively in terms of quality in recent times especially with the rushed out and absolutely shocking Match Attax Extra this year. Also, whilst no-one forces families on limited budgets to buy them how is it right that kids who collect cards are then having to miss out on items due to the way they are distributed whether by Topps or Match of the Day magazine (who incidentally will have discussed with Topps how that distribution will happen so Topps will be aware). A fairer or more realistic way would have been to issue with the weekly Match of the Day magazine over a period of weeks instead of a special issue.

I also fail to understand your point about collectors from other countries. The Premier League is a UK collection for UK teams and is more available elsewhere than cards from other countries are and they do release all the cards that are with the collection released in that country (ie Russia has one Limited Edition with that collection, the Asian version has two so all cards in that collection are available in those countries). The cards they release here are for the UK version so why would they release those cards elsewhere ? the versions released in Asia, Russia etc are not released here in UK so other countries get access to items UK collectors don't, swings and roundabouts.
Thanks for the clarification, I now understand better why people are upset with this promotion. Still, whatever reason Topps had to release the Extra set too early, I think this is not a bad way to release cards that didn't make the normal Extra set. This promotion might not be as cheap for collectors as the similar promotion a few months ago with a newspaper (The Sun??), but I understand that Topps is not a charity organization and I can imagine that they will look for a partner that suits their interests best.

It's everyone's right to complain, but when everyone still buys the stuff they are unhappy about, the complaints become a bit laughable. It would be the same as you complain about the government and during the next elections, you still vote for them.
Let's be honest, GBP 9 is still way too cheap for you guys to really have a problem with this promotion. And kids will miss out on things all the time, just as you and me are. I would like to have a Cristiano Ronaldo autographed card from Topps Premier Gold, but I cannot afford it. That's life.

And about collectors from other countries: I am talking about other countries than the UK where the UK version of Match Attax is released. The people there don't have the opportunity to buy the MOTD magazine at the newsagent's. For these people it is even harder and much more expensive to complete their collection. They are the people who should complain!
You really don't understand when it come to your note of the fact that nine pounds isn't much it is, trust me.

I'm twelve and as an Avid collector of all cards and merch I have to spend all my money on cards... considering the fact I get four pounds a week pocket money... and I've recently had to invest on full box(es!!) its a struggle. Add that to numerous more magazines and a mutlipack its a real tight squeeze.

What I ask is why the hell didn't they put them in the set in the first place?
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Ok sorry guys, got to have another pot at this debate, so you said that four pounds pocket money is not enough to get a full set, but chores, extra money given to me, birthday money, christmas etc. make up by far enough. This is my last year collecting, so I would like to complete the set, got an issue with that? hope not.

I know I don't HAVE to get them and nobody is forcing me to... but evidently I have good intentions of completing a set, surely thats what collecting is about in the first place?? If you start a set, whats the point of abandoning it? surely finishing is one of your main intentions? In my opinion starting to collect a set and not completing it is completely stupid? It's a waste of money if you don't intend to complete... and then it will more than likely end up rattling around right at the bottom of the toybox somewhere, what is the actual point of that?

dedication is what is needed. I have practically all the Extra cards, so, i am obviously going to try to get the rest, otherwise it is hours of stress (umm...) and calculating gone out the window for nothing. for me there is two different kinds of collectors...

Theres a SERIOUS collector - who more than likely goes into a set and doesn't stop until they come out (complete the set I mean), and there is a JUST FOR FUN collector... who practically never completes the set (because as I said earlier, the dedication isn't there), and just leaves it, abandons it, leaving a massive hole in the pockets of the parents, who probably forked out tons of money for nothing, ok maybe for some child enjoyment and a bit of peace and quiet away from the moaning children, but it is still not worth it.

I do respect the fact that there are a few who do that intentionally, maybe just to get a taste of the set, or just to get a few packs with a little bit if spare money burning a hole in their wallet... but the majority of sets (I think) don't get completed and that is truly saddening... for me it is anyway, don't judge my opinions on this issue.

I mean just to think that some of these sets fall under the following traps...
-the 'toybox' trap- as spoke about earlier on in this post
-pleeeeez.- when kids have their eye set on cards, and they get purchase and end up vacating a seat beneath the newspapers and packets in the recycling bin. (this is probably the most sad)
-phases- when children start to collect a set, and then when oh-so close to completing ones set it gets abandoned and never talked about again or seen (and then in twenty years a possible heirloom which could be worth a lot of money in the future but isn't because of those heartbreaking gaps is found and greeted with a 'I remember this'!

So yes, basically I'm judging the fact that some of us are saying that sets wont be completed, and I'm saying the pluses and minuses of this subject. once again, don't judge.

Ps- not all kids go begging for money to their parents, others are mature (a good handful, I will note) and save and scrimp, make do with what they have got, and I look up to those kinds of people... i suppose I would say I'm one of them *cough*. Oh yeah, I agree with everything Dorking said.
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Mar 23 2014, 09:16 PM
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Mar 23 2014, 08:22 PM
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Mar 23 2014, 08:09 PM
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Mar 23 2014, 05:15 PM
There is another type of collector, the adult serious serious collector who goes for a COMPLETE binder including errors, all limiteds, master and regional cards. These are obviously not on the checklist. It is this level of completeness which I am saying cannot be done for under 200. For me only then is the binder complete. Good luck with completing your binder whichever level you strive for.
Well that will be me:-)

And this year Alan I disagree, it depends how you buy them!!

40 MOTD magazines with Trophies and Errors, 40 Magazines with Giggs LE, 24 Tins, 20 Multi packs, 20 Print Me for the Hazard and a subscription to the Magazine. Kids that won me a Masters Card and next week after issue 24 and in 2 weeks at the swap and play I will have all the cards. Oh and 3 boxes.

I admit you need the initial outlay but I have kept a track and I am actually in profit for the set with the sales of all the swaps and I don't keep the 100 clubs as you get them at the swap and play tour.

That was the challenge I set myself this year.

However, I didn't bank on the 4 legends and the signed Wilshere so you could be right.
Four legends?
@Hattersfan. Here you go

http://www.toppsfootball.co.uk/news/Topps-News/signedlegendcards
Thanks, didn't know anything about those till today!
Maybe only slightly optimistic... I'd like to know if anyone has one legend,.. I haven't spotted one yet, but I'd presume that they would be at big shops... like tesco and whsmiths.
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