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Match Attax Limited Editions
Topic Started: Feb 16 2016, 09:32 PM (1,244 Views)
robjones1973
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I totally agree with this. I don't see the point of the Gold, Silver and Bronze cards. One player from all twenty teams is a much better idea.
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JackW
Feb 17 2016, 06:15 PM
trokes
Feb 17 2016, 05:24 PM
i think that G S B limited edition is just an easy marketing ploy for Topps.

in the very first match attax they issued 12 different limited edition cards and in a couple of other editions they also provided with many different players. they also made limited edition cards of the normal players and not just the (so called) superstars of the Premier League and world football

myself and a fellow collector have complained to rod pearson at topps about going back to individual limited cards.

I think there should be 20 different limited edition for match attax so it give collectors of the newly promoted teams something to collect. then in the extra edition than could do so many limited cards for the best players of the first half of the season.

it would give collectors something different instead of using the top teams all the time for limited editions
20 different would be madness
It's bad enough trying to get what they have already
And whilst I appreciate making them easier to collect is desirable us, as the hardcore collectors want some cards to be more elusive/ exclusive so our collections are more highly prized
The hardcore collectors could be appeased by having some cards issued in lower numbers than others, making them harder to find. For example the players from the so called bigger teams could be available in higher numbers than the players from the smaller teams as they would be the ones that the kids want to find. Or make 4 gold LE's with players from the previous seasons top 4, 6 silver LE's with the teams players who finished between positions 5 and 10 and 10 bronze LE's with players from the bottom half of the league and the newly promoted teams.
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Feb 20 2016, 01:42 PM
I have made a fast calculation...
Limited gold cards has a ratio 1 in all 400 packets.

We know, that:
• Gold Ronaldo can be found in starter packs
• Gold Messi can be found in mini tins
• Gold Hazard can be found in tins
• Gold Yaya Toure can be found in balls
• Gold Lewandowski can be found in blisters
• Gold Konoplyanka can be found in multipacks
• Gold Ozil can be found in giftbox

Those are not cheap...
But where you can find Gold Schürrle???
Only in packets!
Since the Gold Limited ratio of these packets is 1:400, counting with 8 possible kinds of Gold Limited cards, you have to buy 8*400 = 2600 packets in average to find a Gold Schürlle card. In my country this would cost 2500 Euros!!!

This is crazy!

And I believe all responsible parent - who is capable of making basic mathematical equitations - should make an end to their kids card collecting. Because a kid doesn't understands that making a full collection costs 3-4 months average wage. And the kids are usually perfectionists - they are unhappy when one is missing.

Topps has made a big mistake. I believe who started to collect this series will not start the next one. Because it is impossible to make full collection for a reasonable expense.

My post is not about the passionate and rich adult collectors - I know there are many around, and Panini Prizm is just perfect for them with the many color variations and autosigned cards. My post is about the tens (maybe hundreds) of thousands of kids who are exchanging cards in schools every day. This series will make them more sadness than happiness.

Last thing: making this series multilingual prevents international exchanges as well. One more thing that prevents keeping expenses as low as possible.

Sorry to say but for me Topps became a synonym of dirty profit. :(
It could effectively cost 10's of thousands of pounds to find that Schurlle LE, even if you were to buy 2400 packets, it doesn't guarantee you are going to find him.

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I have been thinking about this post over the last couple of days and wanted to find out exactly how limited these Limited Edition cards are.

I started by looking at the starter pack and the Gold LE which comes with that.

Firstly I made a list of all the major retailers in the UK and how many of each there were.

Asda - 603
Budgens - 190
Co-op - 4039
Morrisons - 569
Sainsbury's - 1304
Tesco - 6814
Waitrose - 344
Costcutter - 1700
Londis - 1900
Nisa - 2500
Spar - 2400
One Stop - 598
Martins - 1352
WH Smiths - 1351

Total - 25320

If all of these shops took 5 copies of the Match Attax 2015-16 starter pack there would be 126600 Gold Limited Editions. This figure doesn't include all the independent retailers and newsagents who take a couple of copies each, meaning the total made of this so called Limited Edition could be well over 200000.

This would also be the case with the Silver Jordan Henderson LE's that came in a pack with the Match of the Day magazine. All of the above retailers and the independents would have taken these and maybe in larger quantities as they would take up less valuable shelf space. Once again a Limited Edition possibly reaching 200000 pieces.

Then we have the tins and multi packs which are also produced in massive quantities and can again be picked up at most of the above retailers, maybe not the independents so much but the major retailers all stock these items. Even though there is a mixture of bronze, silver and gold cards in these tins and packs it would mean that the bronze cards would also be produced in massive quantities. This would work the same for the collectors magazine with the Raheem Sterling LE's. These were again made in huge quantities, meaning at least the bronze card is not rare and not a Limited Edition.

I am pretty sure what I am saying is accurate as I took all of the figures for how many of each shop there were from the companies own website. I don't think that an average of 5 starter packs for each of these shops is unrealistic as I went into my local Sainsbury's today and they had 6 copies of the Match Attax 2015-16 Starter, around 4 months after its release.

The Adrenalyn XL collections from Panini are all carried by the above retailers and I guess in the same quantities but the saving grace for these is that in the UK we get a choice of 4 LE's, meaning they would all be made in lesser quantities but may still reach 50000 pieces made.

On the whole I think that I will stick with Topps Premier Gold and Futera to pick up my Limited Edition cards, because they are numbered and I know exactly how many have been made.






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