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John Stones Signed Platinum Ltd Edition; Are these rare
Topic Started: Mar 22 2017, 09:36 AM (2,153 Views)
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Hi all, I am trying to find out about the John Stones Signed Platinum Limited Edition card. I cant find much info online about it. Are these that rare and how much would it be worth if sold.
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Just to let you all know, I have placed both cards into top loaders as to keep them in top condition and I will be selling one on ebay, not sure when but I will let you all know before I decide to do so. And regards to 20,000 lol April fool you too :)
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Has anyone else looked at the cards Letsdothistogether has for sale on ebay, and are they real?

He has a Match Attax, Cesc Fabregas Legend from 2012/13, that he claims is a one of one. It has a Topps hologram and a hand written signature in, what looks like black marker pen across the front. Item number 262897744616.

Also a Match Attax, Everton Club Logo from 2015/16, signed by John Stones, this is also apparently a one of one, it has a Topps hologram and the signature is again in what looks like black marker pen. Item number 262897744260.

These both have pretty much the same description, rarest Topps card ever, blah, blah, blah.

Any information on them would be great.
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robjones1973
Apr 2 2017, 10:08 AM
Has anyone else looked at the cards Letsdothistogether has for sale on ebay, and are they real?

He has a Match Attax, Cesc Fabregas Legend from 2012/13, that he claims is a one of one. It has a Topps hologram and a hand written signature in, what looks like black marker pen across the front. Item number 262897744616.

Also a Match Attax, Everton Club Logo from 2015/16, signed by John Stones, this is also apparently a one of one, it has a Topps hologram and the signature is again in what looks like black marker pen. Item number 262897744260.

These both have pretty much the same description, rarest Topps card ever, blah, blah, blah.

Any information on them would be great.
He bought those cards from Deebeetj on eBay aka Taylor Jones who I am pretty sure has had a run in or two in the past with people on the forum
I was also offered those cards but the Topps hologram numbers don't match up with any of the cards that I have
We also sent topps a picture of one of those cards with the hologram and they said it was not real...but getting anything out of topps is a nightmare so I couldn't guarantee that that would be 100 percent accurate
He has crazy valuations on cards that are so far off...whilst there are a few people in here who spend decent money on cards I don't know where he thinks he will find people who will be spending 1000s on single cards!
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Way overpriced, the I think its Kevin Davies one which was trapped in the machine when packets were sealed is a gem, fit only for the bin. If they are worth anything then i've chucked away 's and the Jamie Vardy 100 club at is it 12.99 in absolute disgusting condition.

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Apr 2 2017, 10:15 AM
robjones1973
Apr 2 2017, 10:08 AM
Has anyone else looked at the cards Letsdothistogether has for sale on ebay, and are they real?

He has a Match Attax, Cesc Fabregas Legend from 2012/13, that he claims is a one of one. It has a Topps hologram and a hand written signature in, what looks like black marker pen across the front. Item number 262897744616.

Also a Match Attax, Everton Club Logo from 2015/16, signed by John Stones, this is also apparently a one of one, it has a Topps hologram and the signature is again in what looks like black marker pen. Item number 262897744260.

These both have pretty much the same description, rarest Topps card ever, blah, blah, blah.

Any information on them would be great.
He bought those cards from Deebeetj on eBay aka Taylor Jones who I am pretty sure has had a run in or two in the past with people on the forum
I was also offered those cards but the Topps hologram numbers don't match up with any of the cards that I have
We also sent topps a picture of one of those cards with the hologram and they said it was not real...but getting anything out of topps is a nightmare so I couldn't guarantee that that would be 100 percent accurate
He has crazy valuations on cards that are so far off...whilst there are a few people in here who spend decent money on cards I don't know where he thinks he will find people who will be spending 1000s on single cards!
If they are fake, then why aren't Topps doing something about it? I think I will mail them with the details and see if they can get taken off ebay if they are not real. It would be nuts if someone bought one at those prices only for them to be faked.
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Apr 2 2017, 10:23 AM
Way overpriced, the I think its Kevin Davies one which was trapped in the machine when packets were sealed is a gem, fit only for the bin. If they are worth anything then i've chucked away 's and the Jamie Vardy 100 club at is it 12.99 in absolute disgusting condition.
What about the Jack Wilshere, Silver LE. He has 2 of those at 149.99 each. Surely it is not worth that?
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Apr 1 2017, 12:54 PM
There is a stones platinum listed on eBay as an auction the description is classic
Ha ha. Only one found so far. Apart from the two mentioned on here. It will sell really quickly for 20000.00 though, so hurry, or you might miss out.
I agree
But like I said getting correct info from Topps sometimes takes a while so they may be real...but the numbers on those cards do seem way off...if anyone else has cards with holograms anywhere near those numbers they may be able to clarify also
Also, as those cards are one offs it would be near on impossible for one person to get both cards...issued years apart!
And I also know that the two cards were sold for about 200....if they were real then they would be worth, realistically, much more than that as genuine 1 of 1 cards
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Apr 2 2017, 10:26 AM
Phild
Apr 2 2017, 10:23 AM
Way overpriced, the I think its Kevin Davies one which was trapped in the machine when packets were sealed is a gem, fit only for the bin. If they are worth anything then i've chucked away 's and the Jamie Vardy 100 club at is it 12.99 in absolute disgusting condition.
What about the Jack Wilshere, Silver LE. He has 2 of those at 149.99 each. Surely it is not worth that?
He was trying to sell a 5 note the other day for 9.99!

It is also not a good sign for him that people on here are talking about him in the way we are as we are pretty much the only people who will be buying the cards he has for sale!!

And looking at his sold items he never sells any of the signed cards!!
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Ok Ok,

Things getting more heated again.

Who knows about business here????

Anybody interested in giving proper price guides for cards?

Thanks anyway
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Who knows about business ? plenty of us in various forms and at least 3 of us make a living in the card business, me for the last 7 years full time

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What age?
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what age what ? me i'm 47

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I am studying a sports business degree and it concerns me that you don't appear to know your consumer market!
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To find out the value of a card why do you put it in as an auction it actually follow you on ebay as you do have some really good stuff and forgive me if I'm wrong but you have never listed a medium to top end card a as this type,
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I have run my own business for nearly 20 years

I know that upsetting your customers is BAD business....and anyone who would be buying top end cards is more than likely to be a member of this group

And whilst I am sure we have all spent good money on cards NOBODY would have spent more than 1000 on a card...so valuations of 20000 are crazy
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And also anyone who knows about business would be aware of the Trade Descriptions Act

http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/1968/29 this is the link for info

Listing a card as 1 of 1...when you know it is not is in breach of this

Listing the Sturridge card as 1 of 100 is also factually incorrect

Just two examples of multiple inaccuracies/ lies that are amongst the many listings you have

Perhaps trying to engage with people on here, reading some of the posts and reseraching your product and market you might be able to correct some of these errors...but perhaps you have no interest in doing so!
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The prices on some of the items for sale on his eBay make my eyes water.

Surely the idea of buying to sell on at a profit is to actually price the items so they will sell. I can't see how the majority of the 'rare' cards listed at the moment will have a sniff of interest. Therefore, are not making any money as they are too highly priced.

Oh, and a bit of friendly advice about the 'rare' new pound coin dated 2016 that you are trying to sell for 50 - there were half a BILLION minted. It's worth a pound mate.
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The prices on some of the items for sale on his eBay make my eyes water.

Surely the idea of buying to sell on at a profit is to actually price the items so they will sell. I can't see how the majority of the 'rare' cards listed at the moment will have a sniff of interest. Therefore, are not making any money as they are too highly priced.

Oh, and a bit of friendly advice about the 'rare' new pound coin dated 2016 that you are trying to sell for 50 - there were half a BILLION minted. It's worth a pound mate.
If only the cards did have the value he is trying to sell for....I could sell my cards and retire if they did!
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bibster
Apr 2 2017, 11:15 AM
The prices on some of the items for sale on his eBay make my eyes water.

Surely the idea of buying to sell on at a profit is to actually price the items so they will sell. I can't see how the majority of the 'rare' cards listed at the moment will have a sniff of interest. Therefore, are not making any money as they are too highly priced.

Oh, and a bit of friendly advice about the 'rare' new pound coin dated 2016 that you are trying to sell for 50 - there were half a BILLION minted. It's worth a pound mate.
If only the cards did have the value he is trying to sell for....I could sell my cards and retire if they did!
Totally!

To be honest, I think a bit of research and common sense is all it needs. He should have a look on eBay, see what cards are selling for, how often they appear etc.

I can't see the logic in buying something for say 200, trying to sell it for 1000 and having no interest due to the card being worth nowhere near that amount. That means that you are 200 down and no nearer to making any money back on it.
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The prices on some of the items for sale on his eBay make my eyes water.

Surely the idea of buying to sell on at a profit is to actually price the items so they will sell. I can't see how the majority of the 'rare' cards listed at the moment will have a sniff of interest. Therefore, are not making any money as they are too highly priced.

Oh, and a bit of friendly advice about the 'rare' new pound coin dated 2016 that you are trying to sell for 50 - there were half a BILLION minted. It's worth a pound mate.
If only the cards did have the value he is trying to sell for....I could sell my cards and retire if they did!
Totally!

To be honest, I think a bit of research and common sense is all it needs. He should have a look on eBay, see what cards are selling for, how often they appear etc.

I can't see the logic in buying something for say 200, trying to sell it for 1000 and having no interest due to the card being worth nowhere near that amount. That means that you are 200 down and no nearer to making any money back on it.
Yes

And as the term 'business' is being thrown about....surely buying something for 200 and turning a profit of say 50-100 in a week or two is the way it works....buying something and hanging on to it for a year before it sells it not!
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I don't think either of you could have put it better, JackW and Catherine, your absolutely right and spot on there.
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Have Topps been signing 'on card' (futera style) at all recently, I thought they were all on stickers now.

That would be my main concern, well other than the price.
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Managed to get hold of one....and didnt have to pay 20k for it!!!

Goes nicely with Kane, Kante and Sturridge :)

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Didn't think I would get them all at one point!
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Have Topps been signing 'on card' (futera style) at all recently, I thought they were all on stickers now.

That would be my main concern, well other than the price.
As far as I have seen it is just stickers on cards....I have all 4 Platinum signed cards and they are all stickers

BUT....they give away prizes in the raffle that ARE directly signed cards....they are mostly A5/ bigger cards but they do give out some regular sized cards...i was at the Chelsea and Leicester S&P Tours and know that they did give out various sized signed cards as raffle prizes....and I assume that they did the same at the other events but don't know for certain or indeed who the cards/ players would have been
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i guess with the hologram they are legit but not as desirable as the advertised signed cards.
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