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BIG Brother; and possibly Glass Houses too
Topic Started: May 24 2012, 08:11 PM (18,480 Views)
Mariah
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GM knows she was, so does the entire house. I'm pretty sure that's when the jealousy started about her. They also know she was a cheerleader for a national team. Aryan tried out of Miss America, only made 15th place in the locals.

Now, for the other side of the story...

Candice had some annoying habits, remember that first night of the feeds when she would not shut up and had to have the "pageant" run exactly HER way? She was loud and bossy and full of herself and most of us were groaning "STAWP!" They all said she was loud and woke people up by stomping and not holding that bedroom door so it didn't slam in the early morning, and loudly rummaging through drawers, then slamming them shut while people were sleeping.

She also talked about the need for men to have money quite a bit. That's the part that pissed off McCrae and Judd quite a bit. The time Judd got mad was when she (again) started talking about a X carat ring being minimum, and he asked Amanda what that would cost. She told him, "at least $25,000." and Judd was shocked, McCrae disgusted. She went on to mock some guy another girl (Jessie?) was dating who didn't spend much money on their first date because he was saving money for the future.

The other thing that several of them kept bringing up was that things "disappeared" and then they would see Candice using them, wearing them, while denying she had them. On one particular night, this was all on the feeds, I think it was GM who knew exactly where her sheets and pillow were, "CANDICE" and was fed up and went to get them. Candice was in bed and denied having either, but GM persisted and sure enough, Candice had her sheet, neatly tucked in beneath her own, and both pillows GM was looking for *the only ones allowed to the 'have nots'* when Candice wasn't a Have Not. Candice's response, "how did they get there?" GM also saw the blanket Judd got when he was HOH. Later that night up in HOH Judd was looking for his blanket, (because GM told him where it was) and Candice stayed silent.

In addition to that, she borrowed clothes, shoes, products, etc. Even Elissa who loved Candice, said "I saw her using my face creams, and they are really expensive, ($80 per jar?) but if she had asked me I would have said, "of course, go ahead, they are wonderful. I wish she had asked me though...." Honestly, I still think that $100 bottle of cologne that Jeremy was missing, and Kaitlin's pants, which she searched the house for on multiple occasions were taken by Candice. Kaitlin never accused her, but was seen wearing similar pants later.

I think Candice MAY have a little kleptomania problem, and I didn't when it was just the "mean girls" and racists accusing her, but that whole experience when GM nicely looked for her Have Not sleeping stuff and Candice just LIED, and then lied again to Judd about his blanket was pretty telling, as was Elissa discussing it.

I think there were other factors that led to the Candice hate, but do I think it was solidified by racism? Yes, on some of their parts. I don't think Judd, Elissa, or McCrae are racists though, they have never stooped to that, or giggled about it, which is more than I can say for the others. I DO think Candice was an annoying roomate in cramped quarters, and even if she had been as white as Gwenyth Paltrow, she would have been talked about and "hated" for her other annoying habits.

There is also a money thing going on in the house, because BB deliberately casts real life "have nots" with "haves" to ensure that causes issues. Some of them don't want to see someone who travels to exotic places, and expects expensive rings, or has expensive creams, and no money worries to win that $500,000. 2 jars of Elissa's face cream is Spencer's house payment. Elissa and Helen have wealthy husbands, and Helen makes about $250,000 a year in her job. Candice has traveled the world and unfortunately did have some "braggy" tendencies as well. No one wants to give them the win because they don't "need" it.

So, there is the flip side. Do I think a lot of it was race? Absolutely, but to stick with the Andy Rooney beginning, that is not "the rest of the story."

As far as Howard, there was racism, and my heart breaks for him. His "other side of the story" was that his social game was really bad. He talked in metaphors, when he talked at all, that no one understood, because most of them made no sense. He would sit quietly and not talk at all, then say "I don't talk, but I'm ALWAYS watching." He rarely met anyone's eyes. I think his muscles doomed him as well, since the only men left in the house are the wimpy types, other than Andy, who is in good shape, but acts feminine and is uber social with the girls, so gets a pass. I don't think a white guy with his body would have lasted this season either, he looked strong as hell, so he had to go. His lies about the Moving Company after everyone else had already confessed sunk him faster, but swearing his honesty to Helen and Elissa hurt them, especially when he did bible readings with them and prayed with them before comps. He just didn't seem trustworthy to anyone, and scared them all physically as far as winning comps.

After the blatant racism, specifically the bed flipping and Howard carrying her out of there, I think Howard became even MORE quiet because he was afraid of what he might say or do if he opened his mouth. That is the part that really breaks my heart the most, because I understand why he did that, but it was the worst possible thing to do. Not talking or cryptic answers, in the BB game is a sure way to make people doubt you even more.

What a cesspool this season has been. Would "the other side of the story" had mitigated things had they been white? For me, it's a bit too close to call. Both Candice and Howard went into hiding, stayed in bed or only together for most of two weeks, rather than campaigning. I understand why, and I honestly don't know if it would have made any difference. Candice seemed more interested in a relationship than in her game, and Howard was absolutely not interested in seeing Candice outside of the house, and told her that he knew the woman he wanted to marry, but still let her give him handjobs and alternately berate or encourage him depending on her mood. (Mostly berate/nag/cry/be pissy)

Strange, strange year of BB.

http://www.cbs.com/shows/big_brother/hoh_blog/1001127/ Andy's blog.

Edited by Mariah, Aug 14 2013, 06:23 PM.
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Andy really grosses me out. His right angle nose bugs the crap outta me! His nose is pointed just as his ears are. :D He's such a weasel. I'm laughing at him too as he's thinking he's making such a big move in the house putting Jessie and Spencer up. What a loser!

Also, he said earlier that he's blindsiding Jessie. Uh...no he's not!
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Good for CBS for showing the rigging though, and also, FINALLY, Helen gets the edit she deserves.
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Totally forgot this was on tonight :) My schedule is all off from working a split shift. I feel as if it's 6pm b/c i just got off of work two hours ago. Settling into watch it now.

Mariah - your post about both sides was very good.
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It was LONG anyway. None of that was meant to lessen the effect those vile racists had on either Candice's or Howard's game though. They didn't stand a chance in there. No question about that.
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You didn't miss anything, Shopper. It was a waste of time. I want my hour back!
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It was worth it to me just for finally being able to see them edit Helen as she is, instead of the mastermind that has been a complete joke. I thought, though boring, it was the most realistic edit they've had all season long.

Also, I loved Spencer telling pompous Andy that he is stupid and gutless, or words to the effect during his VETO speech.

OH! It also ended realistically with Amanda saying who would go next, "It depends on my mood and whom I decide goes next." (not a quote) because, yes, that is the way it goes.
Edited by Mariah, Aug 14 2013, 10:42 PM.
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and Helen makes about $250,000 a year in her job.

What does Helen do exactly? Does anyone know? "works in politics" can be anything from stuffing envelopes to consulting (but consultants need creds.) Her inability to be called out on anything doesn't seem like someone who has been in the political world very long, although her ability to lie constantly does.

I am tickled to death that they didn't show any of that stupid crappy fake wedding on tonight's show. Demanda (love that) made such a huge deal out of it to get camera time and was so nastyto the cameras demanding more booze that production probably said, "Fuck this" lol. They better not show it tomorrow either (which means they totally will dammit) but think how frosted Demanda would be if Julie never even mentions it on the live show, lol.
Edited by Cosmocrush, Aug 15 2013, 01:34 AM.
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ranjake
Aug 14 2013, 04:38 PM
Marone is the right expression, Weaver. My MIL used it constantly and said it properly for Italian- but we would say it "English" as a joke. Amanda at her wedding gave me the Steven Tyler vibe. She thinks so much of herself, she changed her panties for the wedding and left her crusty ones on the HOH floor for Andy to pick up. She calls everyone else FAT, too- which is cuckoo. UGH- can't STAND her!
I love that word, except GM uses it a lot, which make me not want to use it.

OMG, didn't know Amanda wore panties for the wedding. When I saw her preening in the mirror in her toga, she had none on--that I could see. Course her panties are a bit tiny and at least two sizes too small.

The woman is completely out of shape for her age, hunches over, and looks way older than she purports to be (28). Cannot tolerate her.

So if the show did in Helen last night, I'll watch TVGN on Friday to see it. I'm sick of Helen getting away with the Momma Bear routine. I have the feeling Helen will go next Thursday.
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Helen I believe is a lobbyist for Blue Cross/ Blue Shield- and others have said she worked for Romney. She is a Republican. There was a gun discussion, and Amanda said she thinks assault weapons should be illegal. Helen stood up and walked into the house, where Spencer asked her what they were talking about, and she said "Liberals taking guns away from Hunters". She's also anti-Union. I hate the 3 am alliance, but as I don't think ANYONE can stop them- I wouldn't mind seeing a Helen blindside this week. Amanda pulled her pants off in front of everyone last night, and she had on a white thong that looked horrible and was sooooo small. And she calls Candice FAT. She shouldn't talk. I think she does Adderall for weight loss. I can't STAND Amanda!
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Aug 15 2013, 09:05 AM
Helen I believe is a lobbyist for Blue Cross/ Blue Shield- and others have said she worked for Romney. She is a Republican. There was a gun discussion, and Amanda said she thinks assault weapons should be illegal. Helen stood up and walked into the house, where Spencer asked her what they were talking about, and she said "Liberals taking guns away from Hunters". She's also anti-Union. I hate the 3 am alliance, but as I don't think ANYONE can stop them- I wouldn't mind seeing a Helen blindside this week. Amanda pulled her pants off in front of everyone last night, and she had on a white thong that looked horrible and was sooooo small. And she calls Candice FAT. She shouldn't talk. I think she does Adderall for weight loss. I can't STAND Amanda!
I heard her say she worked on Obamacare, but maybe it was for the insurance co. She told Elissa that.

I wonder if she'd make that comment to Spencer knowing he is a gun person (shocker, I know).
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Aug 15 2013, 09:05 AM
Helen I believe is a lobbyist for Blue Cross/ Blue Shield- and others have said she worked for Romney. She is a Republican. There was a gun discussion, and Amanda said she thinks assault weapons should be illegal. Helen stood up and walked into the house, where Spencer asked her what they were talking about, and she said "Liberals taking guns away from Hunters". She's also anti-Union. I hate the 3 am alliance, but as I don't think ANYONE can stop them- I wouldn't mind seeing a Helen blindside this week. Amanda pulled her pants off in front of everyone last night, and she had on a white thong that looked horrible and was sooooo small. And she calls Candice FAT. She shouldn't talk. I think she does Adderall for weight loss. I can't STAND Amanda!
I heard her say she worked on Obamacare, but maybe it was for the insurance co. She told Elissa that.

I wonder if she'd make that comment to Spencer knowing he is a gun person (shocker, I know).
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An insurance company lobbyist is working AGAINST Health Care Reforms, not for them. They are the ones who are trying to ensure that Health Care Companies retain their piece of the pie, can deny coverage for any reason, including that you have a sick child, or an ongoing condition, trying to make sure rate regulation is killed in it's infancy, etc. She's definitely conservative republican.

Miss Cleo (the person who revealed Howard's eviction was taped) is saying that the returning juror is coming back later this week on Friday/Saturday and that Julie will apparently announce it on tonight's eviction episode.
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But the insurance cos were mighty instrumental in getting their say so in on the Affordable Healthcare Act. Their lobbyists must have been working night and day.

I see no contradiction in Helen's working on Obamacare at an insurance company.
Edited by weaver, Aug 15 2013, 03:11 PM.
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Miss Cleo is usually right- but it sounds ODD, no ? Need to get voting for Judd- the only one who could possibly return and make a difference!

I've given up on anyone taking down the 3 am alliance. My only hope for the season is if Helen is deliciously blindsided.
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