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Big Brother Spoilers; for blabbermouths like me:)
Topic Started: Jul 12 2012, 08:50 PM (8,367 Views)
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If anyone wants to see Dan try to pare his LONG jury speech down to 90 seconds, it starts at 1:27 AM BBT on feeds 3 and 4.

Parts of it are pretty nasty, but I think he realized he doesn't have time for that.
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So, assuming Dan wins Part III tonight who do you guys think he will be taking to F2?

And as a side note, BB needs to start earlier in the summer and end before Labor Day. It's like a big ginormous novel that suddenly realizes it's rambled for 400 pages and needs to end to they cram everything into the last five pages and end it.
Edited by Cosmocrush, Sep 19 2012, 03:49 PM.
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I honestly don't know.

Dan may be playing games with production. He's acting like he's taking Ian for sure, but I don't think I buy it. It may be true because Dan is afraid of the girl vote, and Shane for Dani.

It SEEMS like he would take Ian, because Dani is a sure vote.

I THINK he's going to try to throw it to Ian, because Ian will take him and he won't have to cut Dani, OR Ian.

He's played a good game, except for the jury portion.

I think both guys have played a hell of a game, using everything they had to get there. Either winning will be a good win. I'm still rooting for Ian though.

They are on The Talk today. Something from Julie earlier, who presumably has inside info on the jury thoughts:

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JULIE CHEN: I think it’s all up to Ian. He would be the deciding vote. I think Frank has the deep hate on for Dan and will not give him his vote. I think Ashley will follow his lead — they have been getting very close in the jury house. Shane will vote for Danielle to win because I think he is feeling duped by Dan and he may still have romantic feelings toward Danielle. Meanwhile, I think Dan would get votes from Britney, Joe and Jenn because I think they are all mature enough to know don’t hate the player, hate the game! So it all boils down to how Ian feels. If Dan is the one who wins the final HOH and evicts Ian, it depends on how raw, angry and humiliated Ian is feeling. But if Danielle wins the final HOH and evicts Ian, then Dan wins it over Danielle.
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http://entertainment.msn.com/beacon/editorial12.aspx?videoId=b1a618cf-e8f0-4b4e-aee4-f324747bd324&from=sharepermalink,hub_en-us_msne_video_hub_tvV5&src=v5:share:sharepermalink:&ptid=22e62825-7dcb-4500-b818-7eff54aed7dd

New jury footage.
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SO HAPPY!

Great finale except for the very end, no way in hell Frank got the most votes.

Ian! ><3
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I'm doing the Snoopy dance! YAY! YAY! YAY! Nerds of America Unite!!!!!!!!!

The only way i figure frank got the AF was that Ian won BB and the non-livefeeders never really saw how mean and ugly frank could get.

Dani. Dani. Dani. As many times as Dan screwed you over, you still voted for him. Girl, you are a fool! I've got some lovely swampland i'd like to sell you.....
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It official. Danielle is a masochist.

I think she could have won this thing had she not thrown part one - OR even if she had let Ian know that she and Dan were still working together clear up until the end. And Dan threw away an easy win against Danielle for a 6-1 loss. That plus being such a tool to the jury at the end - I knew he was screwed.

Anyway, congrats to all of you rooting for Ian. That kid drove me crazy but he played a much cleaner game than Dan and it seems the jury agrees with me that things like that matter.

Frank as AF though? I call bullshit. Grodner just had to think of way to let him come back for the next All Stars.
Edited by Cosmocrush, Sep 20 2012, 04:03 AM.
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Total bullshit on the Frank win. Not even remotely possible.

Yeah, I loved Ian, and actually cried for happy when he won. He CREAMED Dan in those questions and with his honest, from the heart speech. Dan's slimy used car salesman flattery bullshit made me cringe.

Dan should have taken Danielle and tried the "coach and player to the end, no matter what" speech. He might have won it then.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CaChtZ9zyRc&feature=autoplay&list=UUlzCn8DxRSCuMFv_WfzkcrQ&playnext=1

Jeff's backyard interviews.
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I haven't watched the whole show, but I watched the final section. Congrats to Ian, he was deserving. I thought Dan played a better game, but I think he overthought the end. All this convoluted throw this throw that stuff. I think he was sleep deprived. I wonder if he threw part three to avoid having to choose. Part three was the usual dumb stuff. I think they need a real comp for part three.

Why Danielle threw part one is very puzzling to me. Frankly why Ian went down is puzzling to me.

Please Grodner, cast real players and fans of the show next year, no All Stars, no "types." If we need a resident hunk, cast a real hunk who knows the game and doesn't take everything so personally.

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I wonder if he threw part three to avoid having to choose.

I think he absolutely did - and he knew he could count on Danielle for a vote if she was sitting in the jury.

Danielle threw Part One because she is a either a dumbass or a masochist.
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Who knows? In one interview he swears he threw it, in another he swears he didn't. He's still lying.

Great link to most of the post show videos and interviews: http://survivorsucks.com/topic/98828/BB14-Post-Finale-Collective?page=1#.UFujSK4yfhc

Danielle threw part one because he told her to. Ian threw it because he felt he owed Dan for saving him, and because he thought (and was right) that he could beat Danielle in Part 2. Mostly the "owed" stuff, and trusting Dan's bullshit alliance promises.

http://www.realitynation.com/uncategorized/bb14-finale-juns-top-10/20036/ Good finale blog from Jun.
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Holy Hell, Danielle is going around telling people that she has a "real" romance with Shane. First in the Jeff backyard interview linked above and now I just read it here:

http://www.theinsider.com/tv/55627_Dan_Gheesling_Big_Brother_14_Finale_Interview/index.html

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Insider.com: We watched you and Shane flirt all season long -- what was it like seeing him again and now that you're out of the house, what does the future hold?
Danielle: Oh my gosh, I got the butterflies again. There is a real romance there, I would love to stay what we are. There's no "show" in our romance.

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Insider.com: What does the future hold for you and Danielle?
Shane: There's definitely true feelings. We didn't want to be intimate around other houseguests because it would have put a bigger target on our backs. But as soon as we got some alone time, we could kiss and cuddle. That date let us be ourselves, but in the house, it was difficult. I have feelings for her, but she lives in Alabama and I'm in Vermont. We'll talk on the phone for sure.


Lol.
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Danielle really lost the game for herself and possibly Shane when she let Dan persuade her to use the veto and Shane went up and out. Dan should have won the game on that move alone.

Why is Shane so bitter about that? He should be mad at Dani, not Dan. Dan could not have both of them in final three. And Frank is overly bitter towards Dan as well, he knows its a game.

I think when you get to final HOH, anyone is crazy for throwing any part.

Remember when Drew betrayed Diane and took Cowboy to the finals? That was the only time I was mad at someone for lying in BB because Drew had really lured Diane into a showmance. She fell hook line and sinker.
The other winner I despised was Evel Dick. He should have been thrown off the show for bullying; instead he won $500K. I tuned out that season.

Now I have to decide whether or not to invest in Survivor this year. I think I'm going to pass on it.
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Shane is just seriously poor and underwater with bills. Had Dan not conned Dani, Shane could have won the game, or taken 2nd place. He's also not bright, but he was there for the money.

I got the sick feeling, watching the after-party last night that he's playing along with this sick "showmance" because of the chance of getting on TAR or somehow making some money out of this "showmance" with Danielle. HOPEFULLY someone will clue the doofus into the real Danielle. I do feel bad for Shane, but damn, the dude is so dumb.

Jeff and Jordan were really sweet to them last night. They took the upset and depressed Dani and Shane to dinner and then, during dinner, convinced them to "enjoy the whole experience" and just go to the party after all, and they took them, much later. Everyone was treating them with kid gloves, I think because they know just how bad it's going to get out there for the crazy girl. It was a VERY nice thing for JJ to do. It was smart of Dani to face the public and the other BB people while she had the chance, I think it will make it easier once she starts googling her name and obsessively rewatching the feeds from this season. Which she will.

The huge ginger bush told her about the pimple picking, and Dani, ever the liar, implied it was once, and why would the cameras be on her anyway? She was a horrible person, and probably is in real life too, but I do fear for her once she gets on the web for real. Facing all of those lies and ugly behavior, and being called out for them, hell there is a list of about 150 out there. Her sorority sister's article outing that Danielle has always been a bitch and a liar was taken down this week (CBS probably trying to help) but it's been copied in other places.

She's in for it.
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