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Mad Men
Topic Started: Jan 25 2013, 11:26 AM (11,091 Views)
Mariah
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Going somewhere fun I hope Icy?
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Bay Area. Mom has appts at the SF hospital where she had her tumor removed. We'll stay at my brother's house in the East Bay while another brother takes her into SF for the appts. My nephew can play with his cousins, which will make him happy!

Just about to leave ... my brother has a computer in the room where we sleep, so I'll check in later, though will have to skip this thread so I don't get spoiled ... unless bro and SIL are MAD MEN fans and we all watch it tonight!! Fingers crossed!
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I'm so jealous...I miss home. Two places on earth feel like "home" to me, Hanalei and San Francisco.
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Stunned.

Just perfection from beginning to end. There is not one part of this I didn't love.

http://www.vulture.com/2013/06/mad-men-recap-season-6-finale.html
Didn't really feel this recap captured it, but I liked the ending. I liked the "odd and ends" better.
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But such judgments are relative to the rest of what TV offers. Even at its least urgent and least focused, Mad Men is a consistently surprising, clever, intelligent and mostly fair-minded drama, genuinely interested in the construction of the human personality in all its contradictions, and in the ways that history does and doesn’t affect the individual lives that pass through it. “Both Sides Now” indeed: it’s impossible to judge any character, even Don, too harshly once you’ve taken their full measure.

http://blog.zap2it.com/frominsidethebox/2013/06/mad-men-finale-recap-season-6-episode-13-in-care-of-ranking-don-peggy-ted-megan-happiness-index.html

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4) Pete (last week, #4): No one's world turned upside down quite as dramatically this season as Pete Campbell. Trudy threw him out, his career started to flatline and now his mother joins his father lost at sea. Pete even blew his shot with Chevy by doing exactly what he swore he wouldn't do last week: mess with Bob Benson. So, time to head to California? We're not quite sure if Pete is joining Ted to start up the west coast offices of SC&P or what, but if he heeds Trudy's kind words ("It's going to take you a moment to realize where you are: You're free") this could be the beginning of something great for Pete. I'm rooting for him, honestly.


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/maureen-ryan/mad-men-finale_b_3480900.html
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None of Don's usual strategies and tactics worked in the fantastic season finale of "Mad Men." In a short but effective scene, the partners of SC&P finally sent him to bed without supper. No cookie for you, Don Draper!

Don's exile was a surprising moment -- one of at least three "Holy shit!" moments in the finale -- but it didn't come completely out of the blue. [For creator Matthew Weiner's take on Season 6 and the journeys of Don, Megan, Joan, Peggy and much more, check back for an extensive interview with him that will be posted at 2 a.m. ET.]

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The Hershey pitch was just the final straw, but what an amazing final straw that was. As it so often has in the past, "Mad Men" took my expectations and subverted them as it expanded my idea of what the show could do or be. It zigged when I expected it to zag, and that's my favorite "Mad Men" mode. Hell, after that Hershey pitch, it took me a while to pick my jaw up off the floor.


http://collider.com/mad-men-season-6-finale-recap/

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Speculation has been rampant since the beginning on the series about the falling man imagery and what that would mean for Don, and some have astutely pointed out that it seems the series will end with the death of Don, but the rebirth of Dick Whitman. Nothing seems more likely than that after “In Care Of.” If that’s the case, then so be it — it seems like next year will be a great ride. “In Care Of” may go down as one of the best Mad Men episodes today, because it opened Don up in a way we’ve never seen. Namely, adult Dick. Welcome back.


http://www.buddytv.com/articles/mad-men/mad-men-finale-recap-don-hits-50418.aspx
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The Hershey's pitch meeting is obviously the big set-piece of the episode, and it's hard to even remember what else happened after Don begins unspooling his tale of whorehouse woe to a room of horrified partners and clients. (Ted's face is especially priceless in this scene, although props to Harry Hamlin for all his face acting throughout the entire monologue.)

While the speech was a terrible move for the agency, it was an amazingly cathartic move for Don. He's spent so long running from his past and building up his defenses that it was more shocking to see them come tumbling down than to see someone's foot run over by a lawnmower or to see a new agency born.

As the clients ran and the partners dispersed, Hamm managed to convey the sense of a weight being lifted from Don's shoulders. Again, it's hard to stress enough just how good Hamm was in this scene. He sold the emotion from every angle and made a scene that could have easily become ham-fisted and hokey into one that was searingly dramatic, even though it was just one man sitting in a chair, telling a sad story.


http://www.chicagonow.com/couple-critics/2013/06/mad-men-recap-in-care-of/
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In fact, instead of a violent death to close out the season, we got a bit of a rebirth instead. And in this universe, isn’t that more shocking than a Manson style murder could ever be?

For the past six seasons we’ve watched Don Draper fight and struggle to maintain his false life. We’ve seen him act out and hurt those closest to him only because he himself is hurting. He has acted out of guilt, shame, pride, lust, and greed and never once found any peace in those outbursts. Don Draper is a profoundly unhappy man and this season he finally realized it. He’s had minor breakthroughs before that have never resulted in long term actions, but this marks the fist time he’s tried something radical: telling the truth.


Sepinwall's
http://www.hitfix.com/whats-alan-watching/season-finale-review-mad-men-in-care-of-both-sides-now
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Matthew Weiner placed this sixth season of "Mad Men" within the most tumultuous year of the '60s, when the assassinations and riots and violence were so frequent that even our apolitical characters couldn't ignore the revolution that was happening around them. As news of Dr. King, Bobby, the Tet Offensive, the Democratic National Convention and all the rest filtered through to Don and his co-workers, they often looked like they could see the world as they knew it coming to a violent, shocking end.

And so it feels right, and powerful, that season 6 should end with Weiner (who, as usual, directed the finale, and co-wrote the script with Carly Wray) bringing an end to so many character's lives as they, and we, know them.


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This has been a dark, dark season for Don, and for Jon Hamm to play him. Don has been cold and distant and cruel, and he's also been a needy emotional wreck, and most recently a complete lush. It hasn't been pleasant to watch Don a lot of the time, but Hamm has gone for broke(*) with all of these terrible moments. Six seasons into the series, he finds a new level of vulnerability in that uncomfortable, devastating moment when Don can't stop himself from confessing his secret shame to the Hershey executives — and to the SC&P partners in the room with them — even if it costs him the account and the level of privacy he's fought so hard to maintain. Just listen to the self-loathing that catches in his voice as he says the word "alone," or the pain as he says eating the Hershey bar made him feel "like a normal kid." Stealing from the john's pockets to be given a candy bar is far from the worst thing Dick Whitman ever did, but it's among the most mortifying. This is the life Dick was so desperate to run away from that he would steal a dead man's identity, and his desire to keep these details of his life a secret has as much to do with shame as it does with any legal jeopardy the truth could put him in. Even given how intolerable Don has been all season, Hamm made me feel nothing but sympathy (and pity) in that moment. One of his single best moments in a series full of jaw-droppers.

(oh hell, I could quote the whole thing, this writer is a master.)



How's that for listing the recaps I enjoyed Icy? :$ I'm going to miss this show so much. Still haven't seen Slates up, yet.






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OK, not editing again, other than Slate most of the good interviews are linked up there. These links are all after-show interviews with Wiener, and yes, they are all different because different questions are asked in many of them, or asked in a different way. Very enlightening.

Alan Sepinwall and Maureen Ryan are having interviews with Wiener. (Wiener may be doing more)

Here's hers:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/06/24/mad-men-season-7_n_3473171.html

Here's his:
http://www.hitfix.com/whats-alan-watching/mad-men-creator-matthew-weiner-on-dons-confession-bob-bensons-origin-and-more-from-season-6

Vultures:
http://www.vulture.com/2013/06/matthew-weiner-interview-mad-men-finale.html

EW:
http://insidetv.ew.com/2013/06/24/mad-men-finale-matthew-weiner/?iid=rcfooter-tv-%27mad+men%27%3A+matthew+weiner+says...

NY Times: http://artsbeat.blogs.nytimes.com/2013/06/24/matthew-weiner-discusses-the-mad-men-season-finale/

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/live-feed/matthew-weiner-mad-men-finale-573822

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THR: Is Manolo the nurse Bob’s lover or just his friend?
Weiner: I think he’s his friend. He may know him through the, what would be then the underworld of gay life, but he’s definitely his friend. I mean he definitely knew him. I don’t know if he was his lover or what their relationship is, but Manolo has an alias and it's … I started off the season with that too. The idea that they hired this nurse -- they actually came up in the writers’ room that Bob would be the way that Pete got the nurse. That was not something I came in with but the nurse was there [when he conceived the arc of the season] and thought that Dorothy [Pete’s mom] was rich and he was clearly gay, and yet at the same time probably her lover and was going to kill her and Pete and his brother would have to decide they didn’t want to financially follow up on it.

THR: But he did kill her?

Weiner: It sure looks like that.



http://www.tvguide.com/News/Mad-Men-Finale-Postmortem-Matthew-Weiner-1067050.aspx


These are all really good. Each seems to have another little gold tidbit like that one above.
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Best episode ever. I would not even be unhappy if the series ended on this note. It was perfect.


(Oh one little minor note, people who go to Miss Porter's refer to it as "Farmington." Didn't affect the show, just thought I'd throW that in.)

Oh, and Keirnan Shipka and he last expression , she has shown more acting talent in that one expression than Jessica Pare has shown in all her scenes put together. And JH, brilliant again.
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WOW.
I just watched it and all I can say is WOW.
It really did feel like the end of the series,everything tied up neatly(well, almost). If this episode doesn't get awards, nothing does.
Yep, Kiernan Shipkais a fantastic actress, and Jessica Pare...well,not so much. I can't get past her wonky mouth ( and this coming from a girl who has spaces in her teeth!) not to mention her one-dimensional acting.
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So agree!

This episode was just sheer perfection for me.

You know how I say I always like to watch them again and then they get better for me each time? This one was the opposite for me. The first time was everything, just so unexpected at every step, so funny/sad/worrisome/intriguing that I could not look away. At the end I felt kind of like you feel after a perfect day, or perfect meal--just sort of stunned at how wonderful it all was.

When I watched it again I still liked it very, very much, but I knew what was going to happen, and it was like a seasoning was removed from that perfect meal. Part of the WOWZA for me this time was the endless surprises and punch of them.

SO good! This episode kind of bumped this series into my favorite thing ever on TV, such a perfect dessert. I'm so buying the rest of these DVDs.

This recapper actually went to the Hershey's school for orphans! http://www.slate.com/articles/arts/tv_club/features/2013/mad_men_season_6/week_12/mad_men_finale_in_care_of_review_hershey_s_don_draper_and_me.html (The Slate Reviews were so-so this week.)

One of the other Slate reviewers brought up something interesting about cruise ship deaths though, I think I'll just put that in another topic here.
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I never realized Don was from PA. Thought it was the Midwest somewhere.
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I'm not sure if I knew or not. There are a lot of rural and poor areas in PA from what I understand, certainly were during the depression, so it could fit. In reading some of the recaps and interviews, I'm not sure Pete is even still with the agency. I figured he joined Ted as the Ad Man of the pair, but who knows?

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Love Peggy's dress! From that, to this in one episode.
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Our first pant's suit!

Variety's take on it: http://variety.com/2013/tv/columns/mad-men-season-finale-review-recap-amc-1200500938/

Daily Beast interview with Wiener: http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2013/06/24/mad-men-creator-matthew-weiner-on-the-season-finale.html

TIME on the fashion: http://style.time.com/2013/06/23/mad-men-finale-style/

Tom and Lorenzo: http://www.tomandlorenzo.com/2013/06/mad-men-in-care-of.html
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I assumed Pete is going with Chaough, but it wasn't explicit.

From the little desk somewhere that Stan envisioned, the California operation is gonna be pretty powerful. I hope Stan gets there too.

I guess PA fits, particularly western PA which would have been more rural.



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There are so many interviews and recaps out there, I swear, I haven't posted them all. Lots of cast interviews, director interviews, season 7 recaps, as well as finale recaps. I'm still in recovery mood from my virus bug, so staying home and on the computer. Also, I have a major crush on this show. :$ :P I'm kind of besotted in a way I haven't been since Alias.

Here's one more some of you may like, Vanity Fair interviews Elizabeth Moss.

http://www.vanityfair.com/online/oscars/2013/06/elisabeth-moss-mad-men-interview

I'm still kind of stunned that Manola actually did kill Pete's mom, which is clear in several Wiener interviews. I don't think Bob was involved with that, but you never know. He is the one who brought Manolo in after all, and they could have both thought Pete's mom was still rich and an easy mark. If she still had any money we would probably see Manolo again, but since she was basically broke, he's probably gone forever.

The interviews made it clear that Joan did land Avon. That was probably the biggest mistake of the writers in the finale, they really should have had a throw away line, it could have been as easy as someone mentioning the Avon art work was in. I think they just forgot with everything else happening.

Also, the whole "why the hell is Pete going to California?" seemed to bug some people and recappers. That one didn't bother me, I just assumed Chevy fired him because who wants an ad man who can't even drive a stick on their team? He had nothing else going, so heading to California with Ted made sense to me. I kind of love Pete, and root for him almost in the way I root for Don, in spite of himself. Pete, really free from all of his ties, might be very cool to watch in California.
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Wow- I am so in love with Don Draper. He just looked so god damn handsome when he looked at Sally at the end. I know I'm superficial. Just finished. Taking it in. Oh he made me cry during his Hershey's speech and now I will read all your comments. I stayed away
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I'm glad you stayed away!

This is one show I am so freaking glad I wasn't spoiled for.

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Miss Allie, some things never change. I secretly HATE that she got the job with NPR though. to believe in his growth as a person is to be seduced by his toxicity

Hmm, some personal hurt perhaps?
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I didn't really love that NPR blog and I don't agree with it all. I'm off to read some other ones later after I get all this stuff done that I keep putting off after listening to Both Sides Now 6 times. I need to make a little MM music tape from this season. Loved the music.
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