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Mad Men
Topic Started: Jan 25 2013, 11:26 AM (11,076 Views)
Mariah
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The merger company wasn't interested in him, so maybe he just retired?
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IcyAll
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Except Lipsa went on and on about Harry being over at Mad Men for the wrap party. I suppose he might have gone to it without participating in the final seven, though.
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SUCH a great episode, and maybe Vincent finally has an Emmy reel to submit.

Rolling Stone's:


http://www.rollingstone.com/tv/recaps/mad-men-recap-end-times-20150427


Sepinwall's:

http://www.hitfix.com/whats-alan-watching/review-mad-men-time-life-everything-must-go/single-page


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"Hold on. This is the beginning of something. Not the end." -Don

Hey, there's the "Mad Men" I know and love and was expecting to get in the home stretch!



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Daily Beast highlight's Peggy's feminist speech: http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2015/04/27/mad-men-s-time-life-peggy-s-powerful-speech-on-feminism.html

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Joan is the only one that doesn’t buy what Hobart is selling. “Hobart listed off accounts for everyone but me,” she tells Pete as they leave a celebratory booze-fest, adding, “We both know they’re never going to take me seriously over there.” Joan has reason to be concerned after the way she was sexually harassed by a trio of douchey McCann ad men while attempting to discuss the Topaz account.



Slate: http://www.slate.com/articles/arts/tv_club/features/2015/mad_men_season_7_part_2/episode_4/mad_men_season_7_part_2_episode_4_reviewed_the_best_episode_yet_in_mad_men.html

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Now that’s what I call an episode. For the past two weeks, I’ve been grumbling about Mad Men jogging in place when I wanted it to be sprinting to the finish line. To borrow a phrase, this episode was fired out of a cannon. I need a glass of Chateau Margot.



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It was my favorite kind of episode. Based in the office with office intrigue, but giving a look inside all of their personal lives. I think its what Mad Men has always done best.

(Totally without reason, I have this bad feeling about Roger.)

Haven't read any reviews, I like to mull my own thoughts on it. Don is just so darn mellow. He's authoritative yet accepting, I'm not sure I get it. And as for Diana, I'm not too happy that she might be in the picture.

Pete does so much with his character, its amazing. I thought the headmaster was pretty dreadful though.

I can't wait for the next few episodes, sigh.

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Mo Ryan at Huff Post wrote my favorite one so far. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/04/27/mad-men-time-and-life_n_7149408.html

Mostly because I honestly didn't get how BIG McCann is, and how piddling what Don was offering was.

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But what power this episode had, what skill. Nothing is more fun than “Mad Men” when its firing on all cylinders, and as we’ve seen in the past, the best episodes are often the ones that involve maximum office intrigue and secret work shenanigans. Wait a second, the team has to throw a survival plan into motion and has less than 24 hours to make it all work? Every scene was instantly injected with the kind of delicious urgency that made me wonder what would happen next, and David Carbonara’s wonderful heist-movie music gave the proceedings that lovely fizzy feeling. When "Mad Men" realizes what a great ensemble show it is and when it makes the office intrigue really sing, all I can say is, "Yes, please! Bring it on!"

“Mad Men,” you are a wonderful, frustrating demon of a television program. The last couple of episodes made me wonder if the show had gone on at least a season too long. It seemed to be limping to the finish line (and if they bring back Glen Bishop again, I might shoot the damn show myself, to put us all out of its misery). But just when I think I’m out, they pull me back in with an episode that both crackles with energy and delves into a theme that has become more and more apparent over time: The glory days of the swaggering kings of Madison Avenue are over.

This isn’t a new theme for the show: Think back to Pete’s prediction that Nixon would lose to Kennedy, and the general disbelief that greeted that sentiment. There have been innumerable situations in which the senior employees of Don’s firm — all the various incarnations of it — have seemed clueless, out of touch, tin-eared, unwilling or unable to truly understand the changes the world was going through. They all ape the fashions of the times and have grown their hair out, but do they grasp that many centers of power have shifted radically in the last decade? Not really. They tried to harness the energy of the youthquake of the ‘60s here and there, but the true import of all the cultural and social changes of the last decade more or less passed them by.

But that may not matter as much as their inability to spot the financial evolutions affecting not just their business but all of corporate America. The days of a scrappy crew building up a firm out of almost nothing and becoming major competitors were almost a thing of the past. It could still be done, and it still can be done, but it's more difficult than it was during Don and Roger's heyday. As the '70s dawned, many industries were heading toward waves of mergers and acquisitions; it was all about the achievement of behemoth status. The fact is, Don and his crew came very close to embarrassing themselves in that meeting with Jim Hobart. The most notable fact about that meeting came after Don Draper’s patented Draper Pitch came to a screeching halt almost before it got started. He didn't really get it -- did McCann really want to leave $275,000 on the table?

The look on Hobart’s face was priceless: That smirk translated to “You’re adorable.”
Sure, that would amount to $1,650,000 in 2014 dollars, and either amount sounds a lot like real money to me, but to McCann, those figures are rounding errors. They simply don’t matter. That pile of coins is small change. This way of thinking is a big change for the SC&P partners.


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I hate the guy playing second gun at McCann. That actor, Paul Johansson, was the dad on ONE TREE HILL and he was such an asshole on that show, I've never forgiven him. LOL

Great episode, worth a rewatch and reading of all the reviews.

ETA: Weaver, I had that feeling about Roger, too.
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Yeah, I didn't watch One Tree Hill, but I recognized that actor. It happens to me so often on Mad Men, because he uses good actors that have been around.

There really is no job for Roger at McCann, he's still drinking, and probably somebody has to die. But there was just something about him in this episode that spelled the end of his era and of his type and of him. He is such a good actor.

I wonder if he will even mention his son with Joan before the finale. Joan looks as if she might be heading for a happy ending, and Weiner better not disappoint me.
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I used to think he was a good actor. Then I saw him as Ironman's father, Tony Stark, Sr. in the Ironman movie. And he was still Roger. Even to the point of drinking whiskey while he talked. It was the same performance.
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Well he has great comic timing, and that should fit a lot of roles.

I remember him as SJP's short term boyfriend on S&tC. Was he a Congressman or something? I remember them on the Staten Island Ferry somehow. He was pretty good.

I'll have to check it later.

I was just thinking how the McCann guy said Coca Cola. All those little things in MadMen really stand out.
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Yeah, the first few years of watching Mad Men, all I could think when he was on screen was "When will he ask to pee on one of these women?"

That S&TC episode is burned into my brain in a cringe way.

But yeah, that was basically the same guy as Roger, handsome, witty, smart, and sexy.

He's directed a few Mad Men episodes so he may move into that more. I love that he's still married to his wife after all this time, it's the actress who plays his wife Mona on the show. So adorable.
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Yes, isn't she the ex-Mrs. George Clooney?
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And the daughter of Martin Balsam, a really good actor from back in the day.
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Loved Marton Balsam. He was in everything. Is it Talia?

It was very interesting having Don look out the window at the end. Just a scene could be before the fall but that is way too obvious and Don isn't going to do that. Jump that is. I think the entire show was about his fall from grace and his ascent back and forth. I honestly want a happy ending. Sick of sad endings. lol they seem to have these days. Pthe only ending I loved was the shield. Thought it was brilliant putting Mackey behind a desk. Beautiful and entirely satisfying
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Yes it is Talia. and it seems she's the niece if Dick Van Patten. Her mother was Joyce Van Patten, who I vaguely remember.
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This episode has left me feeling very unsettled. I'm pissed as hell about Joan, Roger helping that ass send her off. Hate watching male chauvinism as if it's entertainment. Peggy did look super cool walking into McCann.
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