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| cccharley | May 19 2015, 11:38 AM Post #736 |
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They replaced the actor who played bobby at least three times I think |
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| IcyAll | May 19 2015, 11:45 AM Post #737 |
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I was just going to add, the kid they had playing Bobby in the second show, when you could really see him, was not the kid who played him last. But Sally and Bobby were only about 2 years apart at that time, and yes, more like 6 years apart in the end. Strange for Weiner to make a mistake like that, IMO. I mean, Sally was in HS a long time, should have been a junior at least meaning 16? So Bobby would be pretty small for 14 -- and with a Dad like Don and male relatives like Betty's, he'd be super stunted for 14. |
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| Mariah | May 19 2015, 12:30 PM Post #738 |
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I would have barfed if both Joan AND Peggy ended up with the "right man" AND their career dreams being met. It was far more logical and realistic to have at least one of them have to choose, because, in many women's lives? That was, and still is what happens. I don't think Richard was an ass, he was a grown man who knew what he wanted. Joan was a grown women who did the same thing. Both made the right decision, no villains. When the whole Peggy/Stan thing happened, I was happy for the shippers, but if not for that? Ugh. Moss acted the hell out of a sappy rushed scene. It was like a romantic comedy, Harry Met Sally, or one of those. So lame. NOT them getting together, because that is logical, and works, the fertile ground was just waiting for that, but the rush of it all honestly didn't work for me. Which brings me to my biggest problem with the split season of Mad Men. It was a horrible mistake, a stupid idea on AMC's part, which IMO really hurt the show. We didn't need ALL of the pay off in the very last episode! It made me, and I think others, frustrated with Don's wanderings, rather than interested. Keeping the main characters of this show mostly separated for so damn long didn't work for me. I had a hard time enjoying Don's journey because I was too busy being frustrated with both him not knowing about Betty dying, and all of the important scenes played out by phone in a rushed way in the final episode only. We didn't need THAT MUCH of Diana! One episode could have set Don off on his journey of finding himself. Hell, 3 scenes could have done that! We didn't need that much Megan either. How much more important would the McCann stuff have been if characters could have shared those experiences? Yeah, yeah, yeah, I get it, they are all moving on, won't have each other anymore, BUT NOT RIGHT THEN! I didn't need that to get that it was over for them. "Tell me your dreams so I can shit all over them!" is the last scene we get with Peggy and Don until a phone call? Really Weiner? It was disjointed and frustrating, and didn't flow, partly because the seasons were split, but also because although we had episodes of brilliance, we also had shit episodes full of people not one person did, or will ever, give a damn about. Did the last episode work for me? Yes it did, for the most part. Did a few others? Yes, in a way, but it was mostly like eating KFC non stop, without the cold slaw. I wanted something GOOD, more filling, more satisfying. I wanted home cooking with the family, not fast food on the road. I wanted to enjoy their journey's not be sitting here saying "Get the fuck on with it!" until a very rushed final episode. |
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| cccharley | May 19 2015, 12:50 PM Post #739 |
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I don't think Diana was there just for getting Don on the road. She was there for many other reasons. Of course once again metaphorically. Her abandons her child. Her torment over it and a a few other issues. It certainly wasn't a one off reason to get him on redemption road. Weiner could have had found many other ways to do that including a Megan or Stephanie storyline or a Business SL. DON always needs a love interest so I guess Diana also fit the bill. I think she had parallel torment to his as well. She wreaked havoc wherever she went ... Edited by cccharley, May 19 2015, 12:56 PM.
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| cccharley | May 19 2015, 02:31 PM Post #740 |
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Oh Bobby Draper is 12 IRL born 2002 and 13 next month. He is the 4th Bobby. Sally wS born in 1999 IRL so she is less than 3 years older than Bobby. Not that much off assuming the kids were two years apart Were they 2 or 3 years apart on the show? As for Joan having a blonde kid it's very possible. I know so many parents who have red or blonde kids and they are dark. It's pretty funny how they usually try to match the kids to the parents exactly when that doesn't happen half the time Irl Edited by cccharley, May 19 2015, 02:37 PM.
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| Mariah | May 19 2015, 02:31 PM Post #741 |
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She wasn't a love interest really, she was just more of Don trying to find the love in a brunette that he never had as a child, the wholeness. Nice that he finally found what he needed in a guy during therapy. Something he had always rejected because that "was for weak people." He felt more of a connection/answer with him than he did with any of those woman. This is very good. http://birthmoviesdeath.com/2015/05/18/the-annotated-mad-men-don-draper-buys-the-world-a-coke
Edited by Mariah, May 19 2015, 03:01 PM.
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| cccharley | May 19 2015, 02:39 PM Post #742 |
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I call it love interest. I should clarify to his fuck buddy for the season brunette although Faye wasn't |
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| IcyAll | May 20 2015, 05:08 AM Post #743 |
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Interesting review, Mariah. I sum up my problem with these last episodes as "I'm the writer; fuck you" syndrome. |
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| cccharley | May 20 2015, 01:06 PM Post #744 |
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So was Weiner in the episode? I re watched last night and liked it even more. Tried to make a list of coke references and remember them from prior episodes It's the real thing. Hahaa just like Don |
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| Mariah | May 20 2015, 03:19 PM Post #745 |
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http://www.reddit.com/r/madmen/comments/36nd7y/characters_with_the_most_lines_in_mad_men/ This is kind of cool, in it's way. They counted how many lines each character had during all the seasons of Mad Men. |
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| weaver | May 20 2015, 04:24 PM Post #746 |
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This is the link to the Matt Weiner interview tonight at NYPL live stream. http://www.nypl.org/events/programs/2015/05/20/matthew-weiner?nref=56896 |
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| Mariah | May 20 2015, 08:00 PM Post #747 |
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http://www.vulture.com/2015/05/freddy-rumsen-foreshadowed-mad-mens-final-scene.html
He said Ommmmmm first. Another reason why the damn split season sucked. http://www.slate.com/articles/arts/television/2015/05/mad_men_cinematography_the_10_best_shots_in_its_seven_season_run.html?wpsrc=fol_fb
Another from Slate about how the series really did nail office life: http://www.slate.com/articles/arts/tv_club/features/2015/mad_men_season_7_part_2/wrapup/mad_men_season_7_reviewed_we_ve_never_had_a_better_depiction_of_the_banalities.html Grantland agrees: http://grantland.com/hollywood-prospectus/human-resources-work-friendship-and-the-hidden-legacy-of-mad-men/ http://tomandlorenzo.com/2015/05/mad-style-person-to-person/
Weiner did confirm that Don did write the coke ad (in the show obvi) |
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| Mariah | May 20 2015, 10:15 PM Post #748 |
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These are probably my two favorite reviews, or at least, the author expresses how I feel about things extremely well. http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/bastard-machine/mad-men-series-finale-what-795406 Linking in that one is this one: http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/bastard-machine/tim-goodman-mad-men-series-796469 |
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| Mariah | May 21 2015, 09:10 PM Post #749 |
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http://imgur.com/a/MhIy1/all Some cute Peggy/Stan chops. You should get in on this Icy! Ha. |
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| IcyAll | May 21 2015, 11:40 PM Post #750 |
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Those are funny. |
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