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Topic Started: Dec 24 2011, 05:15 PM (44,132 Views)
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Jun 11 2013, 01:03 AM


As far as Vicki accusing Gretchen of "cheating on her dying boyfriend" Gretchen seems to forget that she was in fact doing just that. It doesn't make Vicki hypocritical - that's the wrong word. Observant maybe. Besides, Vicki wasn't golddigging - and whatever she was doing in her marriage was more discreet than what Gretchen was doing. But then I wouldn't believe a word Whori said about anything so there's that too.


Ok. Someone explain this to me. I really don't want to pull a TWOP "where was this said on the show, I do not recall that" but it seems like Gretchen has routinely denied that she cheated while Jeff lay dying - going so far as to take Jay to court for insisting that she did. So, I guess what I'm asking is - did I miss the gossip that covered the actual truth of this situation? Or are we just assuming that Gretchen is guilty until proven innocent? I feel like I'm behind the times in believing that she didn't cheat on Jeff and that it was a genuine relationship - which is something I've ALWAYS thought about that relationship.
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Wow, Vicki really did pee the bed. And she peed on her luxurious faux suede skirt. That pee was very yellow. She should really try to drink more water.

Gretchen and her giant orange earrings were really pissed off. She might take her suitcase full of dildos and go home.

And why the hell did they go to Puerto Vallarta? It's basically the Havisu of Mexico. Wonder if there's a vagina fountain?


I turned it off a bit after Vicki was shot from the rear with the stain. How much does Bravo love/hate her?

Lydia IS a good sport, she goes with the flow. Maybe some of her mother rubbed off on her. I was surprised. She stands up for herself too. The bullfight, "no bueno." Did that poor little bull look sick or what? Just what I'd want to do when it is probably 90 degrees out, see a staged for tourists charade.

It made me laugh, "KUL-CHURE" in Puerta Vallarta, right, that is why people go there. Get over yourself, Gretchen.
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I'm half way done. May I ask why any site seeing was planned on a 2 night bachelorette party? Vicki peeing was a pissa. Heather - still hate her. This episode she's just a boring bitch. Gretchen is a raging bitch. Between last week's and this week's TH's I almost puked. She sounds like such a moron. Wonder how awful the comments are about her on Bravo. She has become the penultimate idiot she always has been. Thank you Bravo for finally showing the true Gretchen in every episode this season beginning with the fake crying for Slade's son and her luscious uterus. That horse needs to be put down.
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Momo IIRC there were photos of them together - Gretchen and Jay slob during the time she was with Jeff, and lest we forget, "Bass Lake, she went with him to BASS LAKE!" but it doesn't mean she was sleeping with him.

I just think Gretchen was much more vibrant and carefree and upbeat back then. She is just so bitter and botoxed now.
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Weaver - that bull was so tiny and cute! Maybe it was a baby bull?

And, damn, but that must be the.worlds most boring bachelorette weekend. Yah, I'm sure exploring different cultures is on the top of these hos' lists.

Lord help me, but if I'm tamras age with 4 kids wanting to live up my bachelorette party before I get married for the third time, I'm not sure what I would do.
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They went to Bass Lake together? I thought that was with her family? See, so behind the times.
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Weaver - that bull was so tiny and cute! Maybe it was a baby bull?


I hope so for the bull's sake. It looked so shaggy and forlorn.

I laughed when Vicki said "we have to get our chairs." God help me if I ever go to a resort where you have to worry about getting a beach chair. Then as it turns out, the place was practically empty.
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Momo Tamra shrieked that they went to Bass Lake. She even talked about it in a blog or to a tabloid that the Bravo cameras were there and that they never aired any scenes with Jay. I don't know what is true or not about that situation.
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Oh I remember Tamra shrieking that Gretchen went to Bass Lake while Jeff was in the hospital and gave her a bunch of shit for it. I just didn't know Jay was there. Frankly, I thought Tamra was being a bitch about that. When someone is ill long-term like Jeff was, you cannot spend every waking second at the hospital. You'd go nuts.
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Oh no. Jay was there. I think that came out on that year's reunion? Didn't she say he was a family friend or some shizz?
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I think Jay was there. Didn't Tamra say he was calling her or something to that extent? I don't believe for a minute they are friends. Didn't we read that she had another bachelorette or a shower in Vegas and that Gretchen wasn't there. Heather was. Doesn't, the one and only Heather Dubrow, seem like so much fun! I wanna go away with her. She's such a pretentious joy. I'm sure if she did get divorced she'd get a fortune. If I hear Hot in Cleveland mentioned one more time I'm gonna start disliking Betty White. I'm wondering how many times they were paid to repeat it on RHOC so she would be allowed to do the role.
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Momo, Fin and Velvet pretty much covered it; all the internet pics of Gretchen and Jay looking very much like a couple and she's wearing that rock Jeff paid gave her; the Bass Lake thing where Bravo cut him out of the scenes but Gretchen admited later (reunion, I think) he was in fact there with her, and then at the reunion I think Jeana outed Gretchen and Jay when she said there were a bunch of mens clothes on her bedroom floor. Tamra was like a dog with a bone about it which was annoying but that doesn't mean it wasn't true.

But if you mean was there actual proof like Gretchen admitting it or pics of them doing it then no. Just lots and lots of circumstantial stuff. The golddigging accusations are easier to believe and to see. Remember when her rock was delivered to her house? Sheesh. I laugh now that she's hooked up with Slade, the deadbeat famewhore. I think it's karma.

And like you have always felt that Gretchen/Jeff was a real relationship - I've always felt the opposite on that subject. I think he loved her and he freely gave her/left her all the things/money that he did but I don't think she really would have ever looked at him twice if he hadn't been loaded.

Edited by Cosmocrush, Jun 11 2013, 07:03 PM.
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I think I agree with you, Cosmo, about how Jeff and Gretchen each saw their relationship. She's just not a trustworthy person in any way, shape or form, to me, after taking up with Slade and helping him live a nice life without paying child support, and burying Alexis for no reason but to seem 'popular' in this miscreant crowd.

I think Lydia's a pretty nasty piece of work. She was very comfortable rubbing salt in the wound and bringing up the fun the night before, to fuck with Heather and Gretchen. I know they're jackasses but I don't think anyone deserves to get dumped and then repeatedly burned, especially by a newbie with maybe 6 brain cells. She has born-rich brattiness.

Even if it's partly or largely scripted, it's still pretty stunning how mean this crew is.
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I think that Lydia stupidly said in one of her first blogs that she was told to bring on the drama so that's what she is doing. Idiot. She was so nasty to Alexis saying she wasn't bullied in that car scene I can't forget it and I don't even like Alexis. I wish she were on the trip.
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Jun 11 2013, 08:10 PM


I think Lydia's a pretty nasty piece of work. She was very comfortable rubbing salt in the wound and bringing up the fun the night before, to fuck with Heather and Gretchen. I know they're jackasses but I don't think anyone deserves to get dumped and then repeatedly burned, especially by a newbie with maybe 6 brain cells. She has born-rich brattiness.

Even if it's partly or largely scripted, it's still pretty stunning how mean this crew is.
I hadn't really thought of that way Camo but I can see it. I guess I was thinking she was just trying to get everyone to "talk it out" something she probably learned from her mellow mother. I'm sure there is an element of consciously trying to 'bring the drama' that Bravo loves as well.

But as far as rubbing salt in the wound, I saw "the wound" as more of a scratch. So big deal - part of the group went out after dinner. I've been on multiple girl's weekends and not everyone does everything together. Seemed like Gretchen was pissed they didn't all come back to the room and look at her suitcase of penis party favors?

As far as not calling them, I think Lydia said she texted them and besides they knew where Vicki and Tamra and Lydia went - Vicki told them all about it at dinner. PV isn't that big - they walked from the restaurant to the bar.

I do agree these hos are super mean to each other - all the damn time - which is getting old.
Edited by Cosmocrush, Jun 11 2013, 08:29 PM.
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