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Topic Started: Dec 24 2011, 05:17 PM (64,959 Views)
Camo
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^^ ITA weaver.

Sonja seems almost completely dissociated from reality. She's IMO disturbed and was when talking to Kristen; after she shrieked about mother's heads shoved in toilets (not responsive to anything), literally no sentence out of her mouth in conversation with Kristen was tied in terms of content to what Kristen was saying. I don't think Sonja herself is stable enough to know when to step in and protect someone with a legitimate disability.
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Finestra
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That wine tasting in the Hamptons really showed Sonja's crazy too. Disturbing.
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Cosmocrush
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I think Sonja is drinking most of the time she's filming. I think she's flakey but she's fun and would probably go to the mat for a friend.

As far as Ramona goes, I don't think this behavior is some new thing that can be tied to hormones or even the problems in her marriage or even the arrival the younger Kristen who by her own account isn't the sharpest knife in the drawer. Ramona has been a little bat shit crazy for six years. I generally find it entertaining. She crossed the line with throwing actual objects of course, but she apologized and said she was embarrassed. Kristen wasn't permanently maimed.

I will defend her about going to a party that Saturday night though. Was she supposed to sit home just because she left the Berkshires? Everyone knew her freakout was exaggerated because she was already packed and ordered the plane beforehand. So why miss a party?
Edited by Cosmocrush, May 19 2014, 02:30 PM.
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andme
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Because instead of just being an adult and saying she wanted to leave, she faked a mental breakdown. Then went to a party. That is all kinds of fucked up.

Ramona is as cold and calculating as they come.
Edited by andme, May 19 2014, 03:00 PM.
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andme
May 19 2014, 02:57 PM
Because instead of just being an adult and saying she wanted to leave, she faked a mental breakdown. Then went to a party. That is all kinds of fucked up.

Ramona is as cold and calculating as they come.
Also that she wasn't embarrassed until people were pissed. In the moment she said she meant to do it. Ramona seems to give herself passes she doesn't give other people. Nobody's perfect; but it seems like there's one standard of behavior for her and one for everyone else...

Could be lots of things- menopause, hormones, cheating- but I don't think any of them are excusable.
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andme
May 19 2014, 02:57 PM
Because instead of just being an adult and saying she wanted to leave, she faked a mental breakdown. Then went to a party. That is all kinds of fucked up.

Ramona is as cold and calculating as they come.
ITA.

And she had her emotionally labile henchwoman as enforcer: screaming "YOU DON'T KNOW! WHAT IT'S LIKE!! [insert litany of alleged childhood horrors that may or may not have ever happened to Ramona, or Sonja for that matter.] That is truly reprehensible behavior. All of it.

I know she needs the money - and don't we all, and the money is probably quite good - but coming on this show has really made Sonja's retirement plan of landing another golden (oldie) dick impossible. I literally have more of a possible, reality-based relationship with John A. Morgan than Sonja ever will again. Ain't no way, ain't no day that a man with serious, serious money who doesn't want a messy, sad life will ever seriously consider her as a partner. I think the noose has tightened with the trustee, the divorce and the judgment, and it's not a pretty sight.
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andme
May 19 2014, 02:57 PM
Because instead of just being an adult and saying she wanted to leave, she faked a mental breakdown. Then went to a party. That is all kinds of fucked up.

Ramona is as cold and calculating as they come.
I meant that she had already faked the breakdown and it was only a matter of time before everyone there knew it - Carole saw her packing and she had a plane ready to pick her up. It's not like she wouldn't have been found out if she hadn't gone to the party. The party isn't what outed her.
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She should have just said that the situation with Kristen has made everyone uncomfortable and for the good of the groups' weekend, she was going to bow out. Done. Stupid, selfish, impulsive Ramona.
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Finestra
May 19 2014, 07:25 PM
She should have just said that the situation with Kristen has made everyone uncomfortable and for the good of the groups' weekend, she was going to bow out. Done. Stupid, selfish, impulsive Ramona.
Yep. If she had just gotten up, called her pilot friend and gone downstairs and said just that it would have been fine.

Except Lulu wouldn't have been able to cackle with delight at announcing that Ramona was partying in the Hamptons at that very moment and then come up with the idea for an intervention on Ramona to stop her from basically being Ramona. Which should be good. Luann could not keep the sparkle out of her eyes when she suggested it. I think she's been waiting a long time to embarrass Ramona, which is kind of dumb since R has no problem doing that to herself.
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Finestra
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Loving that Luann is getting the chance. I like these two getting to tit for tat.
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Me too Finn! Sure, Holla! and Carole are great but I still enjoy the classics like The Countess vs Ramona.
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andme
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Saw this in the comments at radaronline. Not sure if it's true.

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A few minutes ago, Ramona posted on Twitter reminding all her followers to watch RHoNY starting in 1 minute. Obviously, she got the day AND time wrong. Many people responded to her blunder by hash-tagging #toomuchpinot. Within minutes, she removed the tweet. LOL...had a good laugh so I thought I'd share.
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cccharley
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I forgot it was on. I hope it's still on at 7 tonight. I'll set the tape.
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Ramona Singer þ@ramonasinger · 12h
Long day at work cleaning out my spare closet with my stylist @JordanJames22 and asst. @maurafinnerT! #donate #sell pic.twitter.com/aqLU9I6V4W


I think Ramona is doing herself over.
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andme
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Well, did she #donate or #sell? She doesn't seem like the charitable type to me.

Cc - it's on tonight. Ramona was confused.
Edited by andme, May 20 2014, 10:09 AM.
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