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Topic Started: Dec 24 2011, 05:17 PM (64,945 Views)
lovesnark
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I found this article and it says the bankruptcy trustees sold it. One of the reasons they sold it for so much less than the asking price is that wild boars have done a lot of damage to the landscaping. So, after all the fees and taxes are paid, what's left of the proceeds would go to pay down the judgement.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-2660392/Sonja-Morgans-St-Tropez-villa-sold-cover-bankruptcy-debts-Real-Housewives-Of-New-york-salary-revealed.html
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I hate Aviva. Calling anyone that questioned her illness/phobias/whatever disgusting and rude was disgusting and rude itself. She did give me a good laugh with the pre-ordered wheelchair though. I had no idea that asthma sufferers required a wheelchair escort at the airport, lol.

I'm meh on Montana but I like this group (minus Aviva) alot - it's a good mix. And it doesn't hurt for those fancy women to get out of their comfort zone once in a while. I was impressed that the Countess, who just a few years ago refused to drink beer from a bottle was game for anything in Montana.

But on the subject of the gossipy facialist, well methinks the Lady doth protest too much. Her total overreaction cracked me up because clearly she does prefer French men. Oh Luann, no one cares if you like to be charge in bed.
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Jun 18 2014, 11:11 AM
The part of Montana they were visiting is one of the most beautiful places on earth! It was great to see them enjoying it. Well, Ramona wasn't really digging it but at least she stopped bitching about everything for a few minutes.

The area is full of sapphire mines and there are places where you can sit at a picnic table, drink and buy buckets full of soil to dig through to find raw gemstones. On my first road trip to Yellowstone, my friend and I stopped in a small town outside Missoula on our way. We found one of the sapphire places and wound up spending the whole day there getting drunk and finding sapphires and topaz. It's one of my favorite memories of road trips in my 20's. We had the stones faceted when we got home and my friend sold the big one she found to the gemologist for $500. I can totally see this group doing that. Of course, they would be drinking out of crystal stemware instead of beer bottles and would stagger back to their fabulous cabins instead of drunkenly pitching a tent in a nearby campground :D
That sounds wonderful! I guess I'm just interested in places I've never gotten to see; so I am interested in Montana- though I also love seeing the Hamptons. I think the Countess probably took the gossiping too hard, but Sonja could have denied it on the spot- I mean I think she should have. Especially if, as she said last night- she never saw Russ at all in LA. So that wasn't even actually gossip- it was just a lie.
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I just caught the first half hour or so. Please, can we be spared the bikini/brazilian waxes from now on? I don't think they are funny or cute on camera.

I will watch the rest just to see Montana. It looked gorgeous in the photos. I love it when they're in the Hamptons too.

I think it is odd that this episode (not early in the season) was on Labor Day weekend of 2013 and they're just showing it now. That's a big time gap.
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Confession time. When I last went to NYC I had a layover/change planes in Salt Lake City. As I got off the plane I felt great, energetic, happy, ready to spend the hour plus in the airport shopping and getting something to eat. The instant I stepped off the plane into an open air area next to an outdoor concourse, it was as if all the air had been sucked from my body. Instantly I felt heavier and slow. It was dreadful. I limped a few feet and had to rest. It took me an hour to walk the - I'd guess about 300 yards - distance to the next gate. I WISH I'd thought to get a wheelchair, but why would that occur to me?

Salt Lake City is a mile higher than where I live at nearly sea level. It was mid summer, over 100 degrees, on the tarmac basically with the heat from the airplanes -- dreadful. When I came BACK, I did order a wheelchair. The girl who pushed it said when she goes to visit in other places, her morning run of a mile feels like nothing. Is Montana, or where they were, high above sea level like SLC and Denver?

I have been told I have asthma, but I don't use an inhaler and never seem to have symptoms that bother me -- but that day, or those days in SLC, it really was a serious issue.

I think Aviva felt pressure from Bravo to go on the trip, so she was planning to prove her case with the wheelchair. But if she has even a mild issue and it could be that she does have a mild condition that her current life doesn't exacerbate, then they might have said "let her stay back in NYC, the drama isn't worth the drama" ...
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Salt Lake City also has some of the worst air pollution in the USA too. That and altitude could really stress out lungs, especially those that normally live by clean sea air.

In Aviva's blog she really tears into everyone about who ordered that wheel chair, she says something like "so now we even have cripple jokes?"

I wasn't paying that much attention for life reasons last night but I'm not sure Aviva was lying. (She probably was, but still, I don't feel positive about it.)

"Moderate to Severe" is a classification used by doctors/and techs. Dust, animals, allergies, and altitude can all make it much worse. It CAN come on suddenly as an adult. Mine did, but luckily I was staying with a friend, an MD specializing in Critical Care, and even more luckily, he had his "little black bag" with him and stuffed an inhaler in my mouth.

I take preventative meds, and now live, like Icy, at sea level, and in sparkling clean air. I almost never need my inhaler here, and haven't had an "attack" in years. Still, when the did the range of tests two years ago, mine came up "moderate to severe" with "mild" COPD.

Aviva is so strange, but she may not be crying wolf this time. I honestly can't tell.
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Jun 18 2014, 12:43 PM
I'll get sauced and dig for gems, too!

Just read that Sonja's house in France was sold by the governnent for 5 million. That's gotta cover a big chunk of her debt, right?
There is probably debt in France we know nothing about. But she's doing just fine, don't ask.
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Mariah, when I returned and stepped off the plane in Northern California, I really was shocked at the delicious air -- it was like gulping champagne into my lungs (analogy!) -- amazing and when I really appreciated the air here. Personally, I never realized Montana was so high in altitude, though it makes complete sense. I wonder if Aviva and Reid sat around plotting, figuring out reasons why she couldn't go and one of them said (or maybe her son) "Isn't it really high altitude there?" and Aviva said "OMG, what if I have asthma?" I do not believe her at all. Even while I had that issue, I just don't believe she does. She might! But she's completely untrustworthy. Did I already say I could see it being true? I'm taking that back, if I did!
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I wonder how you say prosperity candle in french.
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Missoula Montana altitude
3,209 ft (978 m)

SLC altitude:
4,327 feet

Of course, both areas have nearby and popular mountains, so it could rise.

I've been to Missoula, and it was pretty in places, but also a pit of a city, but that could have been my timing, and being creeped out by a couple of locals. Jackson Hole Wy seems like it would have been a better fit for the "wives." Talk about stunning scenery!
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LOL Fin!

Icy, thanks for the explanation about why a wheelchair might be needed for a real asthma sufferer. But whether she actually needed it or not I think she ordered it just to make her point. I don't know if she really has asthma but I don't really care either.

Even if she does have it, the "note" from the doctor and tossing the bottles of pills at Kristen calling her disgusting was so not necessary. I loved how Ramona was able to just sit there watching Kristen poke the crazy that for once was not Ramona and how R volunteered she just got a new prescription for Xanax, lol.


If Aviva wasn't such an unlikeable lying drama queen no one would have questioned it. I think they should count their blessings that she skipped the trip since she basically killed any fun happening the minute she arrived at St. Barths without seeing a big WELCOME AVIVA banner in honor of her showing up days late and accompanied by her husband for the girls weekend.
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But he'll never have this Labor Day again!


I'm sorry for Kristen that Josh the Douche doesn't seem to understand his kid's childhoods are racing by and that's what he'll never have again. It seemed like that's exactly what Kristen was thinking too when he said it.
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I'm watching now - we all know how I feel about Aviva so no need to add to that. I just watched last week's and I still think Kristen I acting so fake or is simply incredibly annoying. How could her telling the girl's what happened with the facial lady not be totally planned? I know I can gossip but seriously? It was totally stupid and a fraud - either by her or by production. No need for it.

Yeah - I'm not into Montana but I do love to ride horses - not fancy - just give me a horse that is nice and make it cantor. Then I'm happy. Trotting drives me mad and hurts my butt. It's been years. I know a bunch of rich guys in investment banking who own houses out there. Why, I have no clue. They take friends on their ridiculous private planes without their wives for a guy's week. I assume they go with their families to "get back to nature". No they don't cheat but I think they go out to ski. I'd rather go to Paris. I'd rather be in Rome. Take me to London or just leave me at home. Okay I'm singing my own song now.
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Holla was annoying me just a wee bit with her 'oh I was gonna be a cowgirl' stuff. Just a touch.

The estates were gorg - but Montana doesn't appeal to me in the least, but I appreciate how everyone, including Ramona, was able to shut up and just go with it. I will say that I wouldn't wanna eat with the smell of horse shit. I was with Ramona on that one.

Color me stupid, I thought Aviva ordered the wheel chair for her leg...didn't dawn on me it was for her Asthma. Please lord when do we get to see leg down..I'm ready to see the fake leg go a'flying.
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I bet the chair was for the leg. In NYC I bet she never walks that far. From cab to door most likely.
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