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Topic Started: Dec 24 2011, 05:17 PM (64,913 Views)
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Given the courts and the arbiters have presumably had reason to not honor the pre-nup, I have to go along with them. Why would they be deciding against her? Just because the terms are now not what Bethenny wants, well that's tough. That is what courts are for, and couples go through this every day. We do not know Jason's side of the story; we only see her endless whining about stress and apartments while we know she could end it all with a check. He could have sold a gazillion tabloid stories; he hasn't.

She bought a house and another apartment. Money is not in short supply. Suck it up; everyone else does. She's bought enough Birkins and Chanels in the past year to pay the judgement from the other day. She's stingy with her emotions and she is stingy with her money.
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I disagree. Just because you have money doesn't mean you should pay money. If she was poor, he'd have ended this long ago. He's fighting for a chunk of her money -- that's disgusting. In the other way to look at this, I support women who married men who had nothing, then the man was out working or going to school and became a good money maker and then wants to dump the woman. If you've invested, you should see the return. Jason and Bethenny had a pre-nup, were married very shortly, he did nothing -- was paid to appear on her show. He doesn't deserve millions.

As far as staying quiet? It's getting him what he wants: sympathy and for B to be regarded as a monster because stories ARE coming out which everyone assumes are coming from her AND she has been interviewed and has talked. Could she stay 100% quiet about it? Again, she doesn't have support from family. I'm certain Jason is filling the ears of his family and friends. It's human issues here for me.
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Bethenny was never poor! She grew up
Privileged with a wonderful
Education she did not grow up in a trailer park.

Anyway we will always disagree on this issue and that's fine. I do not think Jason is a monster not do I think he is a mensche. He followed he attorney's orders. She did not. She was also most likely told she wouldn't win full custody yet she kept at it. Of course she can't have her kid to out on display which is what she means whenever she wishes. She isn't a prop. Wonder why the paps know where to find her and Bryn even when it's not at school? Who calls?
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Jason's an asshole.
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May 13 2015, 04:07 PM
I disagree. Just because you have money doesn't mean you should pay money. If she was poor, he'd have ended this long ago. He's fighting for a chunk of her money -- that's disgusting. In the other way to look at this, I support women who married men who had nothing, then the man was out working or going to school and became a good money maker and then wants to dump the woman. If you've invested, you should see the return. Jason and Bethenny had a pre-nup, were married very shortly, he did nothing -- was paid to appear on her show. He doesn't deserve millions.

As far as staying quiet? It's getting him what he wants: sympathy and for B to be regarded as a monster because stories ARE coming out which everyone assumes are coming from her AND she has been interviewed and has talked. Could she stay 100% quiet about it? Again, she doesn't have support from family. I'm certain Jason is filling the ears of his family and friends. It's human issues here for me.
But courts don't go by our definition of "should." They go by the law and precedent.

You can bat your head against the wall all day long and say things aren't fair, he doesn't deserve, he shouldn't get, or you can settle and move on. It's only money. Think Donald Trump wanted to make a big payout to Marla Maples. No, but he did. Paul McCartney gave that shrew Mills $50 mil plus child support, plus a house, etc. Had she helped his career, no she probably hurt his career. There are a zillion stories like this. Why did Perleman give Ellen Barkin up to $60 million for five years of marriage and no kids. She had a good career going; why would she need his money.

Bethenny has to learn to let go of every wound, every slight, etc, instead of holding on to them forever. Its easy when the solution is $$$$$$ and you have them (according to her).

Besides, I have a feeling that what I think is fair and what Bethenny is fair are two different things.

We can agree to disagree on this...........



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I have a feeling the prenup which none of us have seen was discarded because his working for her in the show or some law schtick that got it tossed out. I'm clueless but I can only guess Barnard Clair is no
Dummy. Who was Jason's prior attorney and why did he change? Guess she should have as well. Didn't she go with Katie's lawyer because he won't that big case against Tom cruise? They don't win them all and it was very different situationally
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Well, since Bethenny announced at the beginning of the trip that she woukdn't make it the whole way without peeing, and they apparently never stopped, I'm guessing that Andy and Bethenny thought it would be the height of hilarity once again for Bethenny to pee in an odd place.

Yes, Sonja. It was rude not to invite your guests into your home. And, dumbass, you should have put out a spread to promote your supposed lifestyle brand.

Maybe Sonja should tell Bethenny to #getoffmyjock, or pretend to sleep when she's talking.

Snatch guard LuAnn just made this episode worth watching.

Ha! Bethenny just told Sonja to "let it go". And cue to scenes from next week where she's bitching about her mom again.
Edited by andme, May 14 2015, 12:38 AM.
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Did the Internet blow up yet with #getoffmyjock?
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May 13 2015, 06:10 PM
I have a feeling the prenup which none of us have seen was discarded because his working for her in the show or some law schtick that got it tossed out. I'm clueless but I can only guess Barnard Clair is no
Dummy. Who was Jason's prior attorney and why did he change? Guess she should have as well. Didn't she go with Katie's lawyer because he won't that big case against Tom cruise? They don't win them all and it was very different situationally
Yeah, she got Katie's lawyer. Maybe Katie got everything she wanted because TC handed over the $$$$$$$$$. Katie kept that expensive apartment downtown. No dispute about apartments. And she now has a house in LA. Her acting (???) career isn't bringing in that much. Now she hawks cosmetics. Bobbi Brown dropped her so she went to a low level brand.

Nicole got quite a bit from Tom too even though he kept the kids and she had a thriving acting career.
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Snatchguard tm Sonja Morgam Brands. Lol. Put that in your lifestyle and brand it Sonja. Because with the way she is portraying herself in the show, that lifestyle needs a snatchguard!

I think the prenup may be being enforced and they are waiting for forensic accts. to track the money. Maybe she only excluded SKG drinks from it. Who knows. If it isn't, maybe he signed it too close to the wedding and it's unenforceable. I don't like Jason too much, but he has behaved better by shutting up about it. She talks too much. It shouldn't come out of her mouth. Others do it, she can too.

On this episode, she was pretty good. Not annoying except for the peeing.

Sonja needs to host a big party at her home and see if Heather shows up.

Did you see Diddy was on WWHL and said he was never on Sonja's yacht. I guess that was the time she was partying with John John.

How about drunk and drunker dancing in the elevator and getting shut in the doors, or winning at the bj table and screaming like two banshees? Where's Aviva and her WT comments when you need her? Sonja slips into her the Tremont's of upstate NY accent when she's sloshed.

Bethenny trying to tell Sonja that her pills and drinking don't mix and Sonja is all, "My Vitamins." /eyeroll/
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May 14 2015, 08:57 AM
Snatchguard tm Sonja Morgam Brands. Lol. Put that in your lifestyle and brand it Sonja. Because with the way she is portraying herself in the show, that lifestyle needs a snatchguard!

I think the prenup may be being enforced and they are waiting for forensic accts. to track the money. Maybe she only excluded SKG drinks from it. Who knows. If it isn't, maybe he signed it too close to the wedding and it's unenforceable. I don't like Jason too much, but he has behaved better by shutting up about it. She talks too much. It shouldn't come out of her mouth. Others do it, she can too.

On this episode, she was pretty good. Not annoying except for the peeing.

Sonja needs to host a big party at her home and see if Heather shows up.

Did you see Diddy was on WWHL and said he was never on Sonja's yacht. I guess that was the time she was partying with John John.

How about drunk and drunker dancing in the elevator and getting shut in the doors, or winning at the bj table and screaming like two banshees? Where's Aviva and her WT comments when you need her? Sonja slips into her the Tremont's of upstate NY accent when she's sloshed.

Bethenny trying to tell Sonja that her pills and drinking don't mix and Sonja is all, "My Vitamins." /eyeroll/
I do believe though that Sonja lived the high life while married to JPM. Look at the number of homes/islands he owns................. She may not have hosted Diddy, but I bet she met quite a few famous people.

I guess they could ask Carole if John John had ever mentioned Sonja. John was her hubby's best friend.
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Well JFK, Jr. died in 1999 and Sonja married old man Morgan in 1998, so there could have been some overlap at functions. Plus Sonja was probably on the "circuit" of party girls for a few years where she may have been on the arm of some guy at an event where John John showed up. I guess that technically means "partied with."
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Someone at Previously posted that JFK Jr. never went by John John to anyone who knew him, but that it was a name invented by the press when he was a young child.

I think Sonja did meet famous people and hang with them but she was hardly the society doyenne of New York that she makes herself out to be. If you search on her name her websites /some other sites about her are hilarious.

From Bravo http://www.bravotv.com/people/sonja-morgan we have this gem - oh, the whole thing is crazy but this:

"Sonja captured America's attention with her groundbreaking toaster oven recipes, which inspired the all-encompassing international lifestyle fashion brand she wishes to grow globally with her partners."

Captured. America's. Attention. Groundbreaking toaster oven recipes. I can't stop laughing.
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I love the way Bethenny tried to get through to Sonja, and her frankness, saying things directly to her face in a firm way, instead of just talking behind her back.

This is a really good mix of people, aside from Big Edie Sonja, who used to be rich, which is beyond uncomfortable. Love divorced Ramona too, and Dorinda is growing on me, seems a good fit. Love the set-free "countess" and I'm a bit intrigued by her battles with Carole.

The only odd note is "the pretty one" probably because she seems to have learned to hide her horrible marriage.

The rest though, seem like actual women now, and I do think they've upped their games somehow because Bethenny (who was born for a HW show) has added something, a no-bullshit way of talking that makes them up their games. Dorinda has as well. Whatever it is, it's working.

Now if Dorinda could just dump that odious boyfriend of hers...
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I chuckled when Bethenny told Sonja "I'm a pretty self aware person." Um, no Bethy, you are not.

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