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Topic Started: Dec 24 2011, 05:17 PM (64,899 Views)
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Way too much time spent on the room choosing. They were all nice rooms. These are some competitive, entitled women.

I like Kristen and Dorinda. Kristen obviously spends a ton on her hair. It works for her, but it's a lot of money and time spent.

Bethenny is not a pleasant person. She cannot be polite or friendly to anyone on the show? It's all about her, to her.
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Yep, freely. And since Andy has deemed her the "star" of the show, everyone else has to defer to her and kiss her ass. Sonja just stayed there listening to her rantings in order to get more airtime. That ruins the show for me. If Andy wanted everything to revolve around Bethenny, he should have given her her own show.

I'd much rather see some footage of everyone on the show. Including Kristen. I don't see her life as a failure. She seems to be a great mom and a nice person.

Edited by andme, Jun 25 2015, 11:59 AM.
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What is with these women and dancing on furniture?

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Ramona admits that the night did ultimately end well, despite the verbal smackdown in the kitchen. “We ended up all dancing on the coffee table after dinner, so at least we ended up having a great time,” she shares.

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Jun 25 2015, 10:43 AM
It was the comparison of showing Kristin vs. the ladies by the pool that I question. I doubt she was in the ocean just as they were all by the pool. Maybe, but I doubt it.

You're right about the "when" and the fact is, Carole can pull out the camera in a second, as opposed to the camera people with lighting or at least, rigging. And she can be 'behind the scenes' while the crew has boundaries. But I still think they know they're being filmed, so it's funny to hear them say "why is she filming" in that way.
I totally missed Kristen swimming. I thought it was awfully dark when Luann and Bethenny were on the deck when Ramona apologized to Bethenny (not to you Countless! lol) and then they were in the ocean paddle boarding? Timing of scenes were off to me.

The editors as well as Ramona and Bethenny seem to have a hard on for Kristen and are trying to show how isolated she is. No reason IMO. She seems nice to me. Heather I can see, Kristen, not so much. Maybe it means Kristen is normal!

That video camera really did bug them! Probably because they want to get their drink and men on with no witnesses. The Italians!! The Italians!!
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Jun 25 2015, 03:18 PM
What is with these women and dancing on furniture?

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Ramona admits that the night did ultimately end well, despite the verbal smackdown in the kitchen. “We ended up all dancing on the coffee table after dinner, so at least we ended up having a great time,” she shares.

Oy. Dancing on the tables! We're having a great time! See!

Where was Carole's camera for that? I bet Ramona stole it.
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Did Kristen tweet about who did her boob job? It looked to me like they were trying to showcase the handywork.

I like that Lulu has no problem sitting there without much makeup and wet hair and at dinner was all "Screw 'em, bring out the lobster!"
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Luann is so comfortable in her skin. It's refreshing.

Even with her men, she was all, "I'll fix up Sonja with the Count!" Lol. Luann moves on. It will be interesting to see what gets her dander up so badly with Carole and Heather. So unlike her to hold a grudge this long. She really is being all uncool! For goodness sake, she moves on with Ramona repeatedly! But I can't say that I mind someone giving a nudge to Heather and Carole. I just hope it's justified.
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Jun 25 2015, 06:54 PM
Luann is so comfortable in her skin. It's refreshing.

Even with her men, she was all, "I'll fix up Sonja with the Count!" Lol. Luann moves on. It will be interesting to see what gets her dander up so badly with Carole and Heather. So unlike her to hold a grudge this long. She really is being all uncool! For goodness sake, she moves on with Ramona repeatedly! But I can't say that I mind someone giving a nudge to Heather and Carole. I just hope it's justified.
I think Lu is done being outraged- Carole and Heather just aren't. She brought naked Men to the Villa, or something? Lu's anger seemed to be just when she heard Carole's talking heads about not caring if her niece was upset. And Heather, sensitive Heather, said if there's chemistry (between Carole and Adam) Lu's Niece's feelings don't matter a bit :) Heather always does this- if she dislikes someone for one thing, she dislikes them for EVERYTHING- even if she wouldn't have when Luann was her "Dear friend"- and she always defends Carole no matter what. I just find it dishonest. Lu says it's unfortunate that they're only cordial, that the "friendship" is over. Heather and Carole are thriving on it. IMO.
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I love how Lu can be so beautiful so casually. I really like her best with wet hair, no make up, just chilling... She used to post photos of her and Jaques horsing around in the pool, and I thought she looked simply lovely au natural.

Kristen seems to bug people. Ramona couldn't stand her last year remember? I don't know if it's her youth, or something we don't see off camera, or what it is, but the only one who seems to like her is Heather, and I think that is mostly because Heather works with her husband. ?? Carole seemed to be joined at the hip with Carole, until this season anyway, so Kristen was treated well by Carole (but I always wondered if that was more for Heather's sake?) I can see multiple reasons Bethenny might not like her, but I'm not sure what it is. Staying in a sucky marriage and faking it for TV this season, general ditziness, maybe jealousy about age, or that Kristen has her kids all the time, while Bethenny does not, or perhaps because Kristen is friends with Brandi, and Bethenny with Kyle? I hope it's not that last one...

She's so irrelevant to me I don't really care that the others don't like her, and I'm usually pulling for the underdog. We shall see.
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Lu was most annoying when she was still trying to do her Countess schtick. I don't think that was the real her though and when being hoity toity isn't your thing it's exhausting to try and fake it. Now that she isn't the Countess and she has the money to live a nice life and her kids are grown, she is very glad to just kick back and relax and enjoy life. I think she'd be just as comfortable in a dive bar in the middle of BFE knocking back some beers and playing pool as she would at the Met Ball. And if you didn't know who she was you'd never know she wasn't right at home wherever she was.
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Agree Willy~!

I always thought I would like her if she'd be her true self, without the Countess garbage and pretensions, and I do!
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I think Lu just knows how to both enjoy and appreciate life and a good time - esp now that her child rearing days are done. lol.

Kristen is also friends still with Luann. I really think Bethenny thought she was the weakest link in the newbies plus production seems to have a hard on for her. Put two and two together and there you have it. We have way too many Kristen shots reacting this year. Maybe Andy hates Josh because he doesn't get a cut of Eboost and it was always on screen last year.
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There are some women who come on these shows and need to improve their lives, clean them up, be the perfect version of themselves at all times and I see them get irked when their script in their heads doesn't come out of the other women's mouths. I know they agree at times to not talk about some parts of their lives on camera. But in the NY cast, i think we can see all the levels. There's the Carole, who is who she is, poses a bit but sort of doesn't care, is just enjoying it and doing it for the activity and money. Then there's Sonja, who is desperate to look good at all moments and can't shut up if someone is saying anything that could become a negative sound bite about her, to be replayed 10000 times on Bravo. Heather -- middling. But Luann now vs. Luann the Countess is the example that gives back -- then she was all about image and what people would think about her the rest of her life. That collapsed but she still tried. Then she had her season of begin a "friend" and her whole relationship with Jacque and the fake idea of trying to have another baby, and I think she finally just got tired of the facades. Now she's unapologetic and living as her real self, even on camera -- with just a bit of gloss to keep on the show. So she does makeup and dresses better than ever, but doesn't shy away from confrontations or the "truth" and isn't going to stop living life because the cameras are on.

I suspect, since we haven't seen it, that Heather's issue is the invasion of their down time -- their authentic privacy, when Bravo's cameras should/could be turned off, and there's Luann inviting men (REAL PEOPLE) back to their perk -- their free (sort of) luxury suite on a fabulous trip … taking away any real value in the between times by making it all a work vacation. I think Heather thinks (still) that she has a face to put on, and if there are people besides the ladies there, she has to WORK and can't relax. And Luann is just like … this is really living and I'm not stopping living because you want to pose, Heather. I think the proof is that she trots out something that is pretty lame, but then it becomes a catch phrase ANYWAY … and clever girl, not one to waste what she knows is bank, she turns it into a song: "Look, be cool. Don't be all … uncool!"
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agree
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Good point Icy. But wouldn't you be kind of grossed out if 2 naked men showed up in your vacation house? I would kind of be like Yuck. I wouldn't throw a hissy fit, but still, gross. There is that safety issue too.

I love the Ramonas and the Vickis who are unable to hide who they are.
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