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Topic Started: Dec 24 2011, 05:17 PM (64,879 Views)
Finestra
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Bethenny is right to dislike John, but she had no business bringing that up to Dorinda at her party on the tangential thread that Ramona and Carole lunching together is an appropriate segue. And all she really has the right to say to Dorinda about dating John is, "I prefer not to discuss business with John, he keeps bringing it up when you aren't present. I am going to tell him so, but I want you to know so that we are all on the same page." Suddenly B is a shrinking violet who has to have Dorinda tell her man to leave B alone?

And ITA that Bethenny was gleeful that John walked in all liquored up. Frankly I think she was happy that she stirred the pot and made Dorinda upset to begin with. John walking in all gross, wasted and itching for a fight was just icing on the cake.

IMO either Dorinda called him all upset when she walked out to get a cigarette or production knew he was downstairs "wasted," mic'd him and sent him up with a little whisper in his ear that Dorinda was upset bc the women shit-talked him. He came in loaded in more than one way.

Claims about B's business should be off limits (and she rightfully fought back about them) but Dorinda and John can't fight back against claims about his character? Allegations that he uses coke aren't off limits? Which is illegal. That's ok? No one ever said shit about Mario. No one expressed concern when Bethenny dated the guy accused of rape.

Bottom line it is Dorinda's business. Ramona would have died if Dorinda said, "I saw Mario cheating with a young blonde thing" in front of a luncheon she was hosting. It was rotten when Jill and Luann pulled the fortune teller thing in Morocco. You don't embarrass your friend that way for any reason. ITA Ranjake - tell her in private.

Bethenny with the coke use allegations - hey pot meet kettle. Dorinda has alluded to the fact that she could say plenty about Bethenny - whether about the divorce or her own partying/lifestyle. But she doesn't. Either it's the power differential and they are afraid of getting fired, they are contractually bound with non-disclosure agreements about Bethenny's personal life or they are just decent human beings.

FWIW I love Bethenny thinking Dorinda should be madder at her than at Ramona. And Dorinda just waved her hand in Bethenny's face as if, "Shoo your just an annoying fly. She was my FRIEND of 20 years who did this to me. She was in the 4th row at my husband's funeral." All for airtime for the two of them.

I think Bethenny went into this season thinking Dorinda (the sloppy, angry drunk with a hair trigger when it came to her sleazy BF) would be an easy target for a storyline. If anything, Bethenny is good at goading people on reality tv.
Edited by Finestra, Apr 21 2016, 08:21 AM.
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Finestra
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Oh and for goodness sakes Carole - we all saw your twitter war with Luann last year. You were no innocent. Now you are going to pretend that only Luann was mean on social media? You have a history of twitter fights too. First you went after Aviva then you fought with Luann. It's time to let it go. It's like dealing with a middle schooler.
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Finestra
Apr 21 2016, 08:24 AM
Oh and for goodness sakes Carole - we all saw your twitter war with Luann last year. You were no innocent. Now you are going to pretend that only Luann was mean on social media? You have a history of twitter fights too. First you went after Aviva then you fought with Luann. It's time to let it go. It's like dealing with a middle schooler.
Thank you!!! I feel like Carole feels like she only retaliated- but I really disagree!
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Haven't watched yet but you guys must know that Bethenny did tons of Coke and probabalr my still does on ocassion. Takes one to know one. It's public knowledge. Don't throw stones. I need to power watch
Edited by cccharley, Apr 21 2016, 06:56 PM.
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I am just so sad for Dorinda. I honestly didn't pick up on the drinking last season, even with the dust up with Heather during the trip. I don't like John, but it's her bad choice to make. I too call shenanigans on the producers asking John to come up and they loaded him for bear. I don't think Dorinda would have encouraged him to come up, that's managing a drunk 101. You don't bring him around 'friends.'

I actually liked Jules and her hubby. And how Jules refused to bash Dorinda.

What happened off season to alienate Lu and Sonja?
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I just couldn't believe some of the shots of Jules - that chick is skeletal. And MEAN. I wanted to slap her and ask "haven't you ever watched a real housewives show? no one ever gets anywhere talking about the other women as OLDER" -- where's Kristin? (crickets) ... where's Kelly? (crickets) ... it doesn't sell. The FANS are the same age, you dingbat!

I find John gross and I think Dorinda is delightful and I wish she felt worthy of someone better.

That apartment for $9K? So boring. So not worth it. The views was all it was about, and they were amazing.
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weaver
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That $9K apartment looked like a cheap renovation of an older building. You could still see the old radiators, old floors, small kitchen with new appliances. That's how they renovate in my building, just do a cheap redo. I'll have to google those apartments later. I think they showed the names.

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Check out Jule's arms here, right next to Bethenny's.

There are also some photos of Jules in a bikini or shorts on her instagram, not many, but a couple. Her legs and hip joints show nothing but bone, and stick WAY out from her hip joints, you could put one of her own legs between them. The tops of her thighs are around the size, and nearly as bony as her knees.

There are some shots of Bethenny and Carole in bikini's out there, and they look hefty compared to Jules. Or, let's say, WAY more normal. Top of thighs touch, or nearly, Carole has a round, not bony butt, and some cellulite showing.

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That photo of Jules above was one of the better ones, I think she took down the one I saw before. She looks good in clothes, but yup, I think she has an issue.

Telling her husband to save her the leftovers from a two egg white, one yolk omelet?
Edited by Mariah, Apr 22 2016, 06:18 PM.
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Finestra
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I think Carole has put on weight since she started in with the Chef. Her first season on the boat with the women I remember thinking she was too thin. Jules is very very very skinny. She is 1/2 japanese which might also account for some "naturally skinny" but yikes.

Dorinda is sad. But I have to laugh about the big manners dinner on saying the F word last year with Heather. hahahaha. Motherfucking Dorinda can take care of her life motherfuckers.

I just think Bethenny made a decision to make D and J a storyline and doesn't really care about the casualties.

Edited by Finestra, Apr 23 2016, 04:18 PM.
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Finally watched and wow, Bethenny is a bitter bitch. Just nasty. I don't care what anyone thinks of John or if it's true or not, Bethenny and her short bus and special needs and English as a second language comments are just disgusting. Her attacking Dorinda about John, on camera, disgusting, especially when it's apparent that the comments are cutting deep for Dorinda, it's not just surface crap for the shows sake. I'm sure Dorinda could have brought up plenty about Bethenny and the rapist boyfriend or the fact that Bethenny's own mother won't even talk to her but she didn't. Making sure she gets in her digs against Jason without mentioning him by name. Well Bethy, you could have been done with this a long time ago if you didn't fight every single thing during the divorce. Just settle it, vent behind the scenes to your best girlfriends and be done with it already.

John, he is gross and I do hope that Dorinda sees that one day and decides that she wants better for herself. I think when her husband died she just couldn't take being alone when it wasn't her choice to be alone and so she ran into the arms of the first man she came across. Plus, I do think John probably has a sweet side, somewhere, when he's sober and he knows how to turn it on when necessary.

I can't decide how I feel about Jules yet. She seems like a decent person but drives me nuts when she interacts with her kids, like she has no idea how to actually parent them. The inmates are running the asylum at that house!
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Finestra
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Dorinda's husband Richard Medley was a big shot - like huge. Ramona being in the 4th row of that funeral was either really pushy of Ramona (probably the truth) or she was really close to Dorinda. So Ramona's actions of saying that on camera to Dorinda was a real violation of their friendship. http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2011-11-18/richard-medley-hedge-fund-advisory-firm-founder-dies-at-60
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Good point, fin. Especially since Ramona has said that Dorinda was there for her after Mario dumped her.

Does Ramona need the money that badly that she'd sell out a dear friend? Or is she just desperate to stay on TV?
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So wait, Dorinda was only married to him for 6 years?

I mean, it's still terrible, but I thought they'd been married forever, and that her daughter was his, etc.
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Finestra
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He was her second husband, and she was his second wife I believe. But he left her a ton of money I would wager. Those Chanel jackets aren't cheap. Just ask Kyle. ;)

Andme I do think Ramona is that desperate to remain on TV. That air conditioning doesn't pay for itself. Hahaha. I thought she and Dorinda were going to melt.

Now I keep imagining Ramona forcing her way up to the fourth row in the church to sit up front at the funeral. Or getting there really early to make sure she got a prominent seat. Like it was a fashion show. See and be seen.
Edited by Finestra, Apr 24 2016, 03:32 PM.
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weaver
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The name Medley was sticking in my brain and i couldn't figure out why until I realized that's where my neighbor works. He's been here five years with his girl friend and has progressed up in the ranks and they are moving out this summer, onwards and upwards. I never put two and two together before. I guess he would not have known D's hubby, but I'm going to ask if I have a chance before they go.

i looked on LinkedIn and I see he made Principal in Jan 2016, so no wonder they are moving. His gf told me they are looking for a vacation house too.

Back in the day, there was no way someone could make the kind of money I know he makes in such a short time...............he works crazy long hours, but still, the rewards are out of line IMHO.
Edited by weaver, Apr 25 2016, 09:53 AM.
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