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Topic Started: Dec 24 2011, 05:17 PM (65,043 Views)
WillyWonka
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IcyAll
Jul 31 2012, 09:51 PM
I'm kinda surprised at the dislike of Carole -- I think she's fabulous! Of course, I'm in the "Luann sucks" camp, perhaps one of the founders, so anyone pointing out the flaws of the Countless one is good for me.
I don't dislike Carole either. I don't know if I'd call her fabulous but I think I like her the best so far out of this seasons ladies. And I'm not a Lulu fan at all, although I do think she wears clothes really well.
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I hate to say that I always refer to sunglasses like that as "Jackie O" glasses. I think it was habit of Luann and then once she said it, Luann realized how awkward it was that she said it in front of Carole.

I think I am a little over Carole and her smug witticisms and hipster attitude. She is cooler, hipper and smarter than anyone else. I am not saying I dislike her, but I am a little over her. She hasn't done anything horrible a la Luann or Ramona, but she acts as though she has immunity and that she is above it all, including us.
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but she acts as though she has immunity and that she is above it all, including us.


I wonder how much of that cockiness for lack of a better word is due to her friendship with Andy and from the article Icy posted on the media thread, he persued her hot and heavy.
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I think it comes from that entirely. I wonder how many times Carole has been privy to Andy's real feelings about the original HWs? I am sure Andy has made a few snarky comments about Lulu's singing.
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Especially since it appears they have a 10 year friendship from back when they were both in news.
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Icy, I still think Carole is fabulous too for all the reasons Finestra is over her, lol. She seems to be cooler and hipper and smarter than the others. I'm just not over her yet but the season is young.

I've always thought Lulu is one of the most stylish ho-wives on TV but standing next to Carole she kind of looked and sounded like Maude and/or Dorothy Spornack.

Shopper thanks for the reminders on when the NYC women had their makeup done. I don't count Sonja's indentured servants, er interns and the special occasions are one thing but the OC and NJ ho-wives seem to do it as a matter of course. I still laugh about Alexis hiring a makeup artist in Vegas to spackle her face before going to DINNER and Gretchen's Pussycat show.

I know Bravo loves to mislead with their previews but honestly Luann's behavior in those was beyond her usual ill mannered self. "Watch out for your scalp!" ? Yikes.
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Cosmo, I definitely agree she is hipper, cooler and smarter than the rest of the Hos. I just don't like her thinking (probably rightly so) that she is smarter than us!

I cringed when Luann did that, but I know someone her (my) age who is Native American, and she says she grew up saying they were American Indians. What I don't like about that scene is Carole thinking she has the right to tell Luann who is Native American how to PC classify herself.
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Finestra
Jul 31 2012, 10:52 PM
Cosmo, I definitely agree she is hipper, cooler and smarter than the rest of the Hos. I just don't like her thinking (probably rightly so) that she is smarter than us!

I cringed when Luann did that, but I know someone her (my) age who is Native American, and she says she grew up saying they were American Indians. What I don't like about that scene is Carole thinking she has the right to tell Luann who is Native American how to PC classify herself.
I agree that Lulu can call herself whatever she likes, whether it's Countess or Etiquette Expert or American Indian. I'm that age too although African Americans were once referred to as Negro and before that, Colored. Hell, the Department of the Interior still runs the Bureau of Indian Affairs and the NAACP is still the NAACP. It's not Lulu's use of the word Indian that bugged me as much as her mimicking what we used to call a 'war whoop' and laughing about "holding onto your scalp."

Bravo is famous for sound bites without context though so I'll try and reserve judgement until next week. Something tells me everything Lulu knows about her American Native background came from the movies though and gave her an great story to collect turquoise. Kind of like Teresa wearing something "Aztec-ie" for her trip out west to California.
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Wait - didn't LuLu correct Kelly last year in the Hamptons. Kelly came to LuLu's basement party and either was wearing an Indian shirt or LuLu had on an Indian shirt and Kelly did the "howwowwowoow" movement/sound with her mouth and LuLu corrected her and/or did a talking head about it?

Gah, I'm starting to sound like a LuLu fan - but definitely reserve judgement.
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How about a NYC trip to Half Moon bay to sleep in RV's in a parking lot?
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I miss half moon bay...nearly died there once. Still love it.

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andme
Jul 31 2012, 11:34 PM
How about a NYC trip to Half Moon bay to sleep in RV's in a parking lot?
Oh I would LOVE to see Lulu and/or Ramoner spend three days on an RV in a parking lot. Probably kind of like when Her Highness Oprah went camping only without a staff.
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I like Carole and she's the only one I could see myself being friends with. Than again, I am seriously buzzed.
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I still love Carole. I wear the same hats too. They keep your ears warm and cover messy hair. I love that she's messing up Lu's game.
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Shoppergal
Jul 31 2012, 11:33 PM
Wait - didn't LuLu correct Kelly last year in the Hamptons. Kelly came to LuLu's basement party and either was wearing an Indian shirt or LuLu had on an Indian shirt and Kelly did the "howwowwowoow" movement/sound with her mouth and LuLu corrected her and/or did a talking head about it?

Gah, I'm starting to sound like a LuLu fan - but definitely reserve judgement.
I think we commented on Kelly's war cry over at FF. I don't recall if Luann said anything.

I guess one of the reasons I am not satisfied with Carole's digging at Luann is because most of it is done in talking heads. Her talk about the dress borrow wasn't a smack down and was handled fine.
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