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Topic Started: Dec 24 2011, 05:17 PM (65,042 Views)
weaver
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I call those glasses Jackie O glasses too. And her Gucci bag is the Jackie O bag and the Cartier tank is the Jackie O watch. She wore them forever and she was such an iconic fashion figure. Nobody wears the same thing for years and years anymore, its something new and different every season.

I think LuAnn immediately caught the potential akwardness.
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In regards to the whole American Indian thing.... I grew up and went to school with several Native American kids. They always referred to themselves as "Indians" and later, when I was teaching, I used the term "Indian" and was corrected by a 14 year old. The only thing is, the Chief's granddaughter was sitting in the front row. I looked at her and she said, "We're Indians". So, there you have it. I still call them Indians, since I got a thumb up from Chief Decorah's granddaughter.
And I will still refer to big glasses as Jackie O glasses. If Carole gets offended by that, then not only is she a ratface, she has really thin skin.

I still love my Lulu. Yeah, she can be overbearing, but coming from a big family, you have to be heard some way. I will give Carol props for her work achievements. But I agree with those who get the "too hip, too cool, I'm better than you" vibe.

And Aviva's dad was just all kinds of skeevy. I know Sonja is a big girl, and this is how she made her living before Mr. Morgan, but if I were her, I would have taken Aviva to the side and told her to tell her father to lay off. Sonja was a guest of Aviva's and a guest should not be made to feel uncomfortable.
Edited by discomom, Aug 1 2012, 12:07 PM.
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I like Carole and she's the only one I could see myself being friends with. Than again, I am seriously buzzed.

Mariah, that's the best way to watch these shows; sometimes it's the only way!
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I want to like Carole, but she needs to chill re: LuAnn. I'm not even a LuAnn fan (pretentious, classist snobs are not my thing, though I find her incredibly chic) but Carole is like a dog with a bone. Everything from how LuAnn speaks, to borrowing a dress from a designer, to how she refers to her OWN ethnicity. Bitch, STFU. Would you correct a Mexican if they referred to themselves as Latino or Hispanic? There are multiple names for various nationalities and I think it's appropriate to leave it up to individuals how they wish to refer to themselves.

If I were part of the 1% and was able to get designers to loan me dresses, I would NEVER go to Naeem Khan based on their appearance on this show. Not that they would need my business; they seem to be doing quite well. But I'm sure people who seek out these designers rely on a certain level of discreetness, and the fact that Ranjana spilled everything on national tv is pretty ridiculous. If she outs potential clients like that publically, what else does she say to Carole or any other friend when there are no cameras around?

I loved seeing horny George chase Sonja around. Give that old hooker a taste of her own medicine.

I still love Heather and missed her last episode. Anyone who can get under BSC Ramona's skin is aces in my book.
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Carole didn't say boo to Luann's "Jackie O" comment -- that was ME. I was offended for her, LOL.

[REMOVED PARAGRAPH WHERE I WENT OFF THE RAILS -- must self-edit better.]

I agree that both Carole and Aviva need to be more direct ... maybe not as direct as Ramona, but for goodness sake, letting someone "offend" them so many times and only saying something in the blogs or in the talking heads is just as obnoxious as the original offense. I was happy that Carole said something to Luann, though maybe not enough to penetrate Luann's tough outer shell!

BTW: in the blogs, Ramona claims that Aviva fussed the whole way over to Ranjana's about not having her swimming leg and not wanting to get the leg she was wearing wet ... Ramona says she offered to forgo getting in the pool so Aviva wouldn't be the only one ... so Aviva is a fucking liar (no surprise to me) because in her blog she continues the tirade against Ramona's "help" ... I actually believe Ramona! (No surprise? LOL)
Edited by IcyAll, Aug 1 2012, 05:18 PM.
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I actually believe Ramona! (No surprise? LOL)


I believe her too. Ramona is crazy, often inappropriate, and hyper to a fault but I do think, more often than not she is trying to look out for people. She has ZERO filter so it comes out very rude and brusque, but I really, really do believe she means well.......most of the time. You piss her off, she's on you like a dog on a bone, and she does demand loyalty but if she likes you I imagine she could be a pretty damn good friend. Sonja summed it up best when she said something to the effect of "If I couldn't just ignore/accept that type of behavior from Ramona, she wouldn't be my friend."
That is why, unlike most people, I am not enjoying watching Ramona being isolated this season. I feel sorry for her as I see her being very confused and upset by it all. Perhaps I am just projecting however as have very recently gone through the same thing in my own life.
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I don't think Carole said anything in response to Jackie O, but either they edited to look like Carole was giving Luann an Oh Really, or she gave her that type of look.

Icy, I think it is okay for Luann to say American Indian. The whole nonsense about the scalping and war cry may have been over the top inappropriate, but then again as mentioned above, it may be the preview and not actually what happened.

I believe Ramona too about the leg. She wouldn't let it go probably because Aviva wouldn't let it go in the cab.
Edited by Finestra, Aug 1 2012, 03:40 PM.
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If any of you internet detectives feel up to it, can you find out whether George (Aviva's dad) is/was a photography buff? I'm pretty sure I've identified him as someone I used to know, but need to confirm the photography thing. BTW, if he is who I think he is, he was a very nice man and never behaved like some demented old pervert. I actually have a photograph he took of a friend displayed in my home.
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weaver
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Her father is named George Teichner. He is in finance. He was supposedly an accountant for the Beatles and other famous people. His wife was named Ingrid. Sounds like a Scandanavian name; maybethat is where Aviva got her height.

Tried to sell his condo last year.

Aviva father tries to sell condo
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Thanks, weaver. I don't remember the George I'm thinking of last name. It was the accountant for so and so that rang a bell. I'm pretty sure it's him - the photography thing is what I remember about him. Eh, this was about 18 years ago, so.........
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So funny you guys just updated me about George. My husband met him years ago and first thing out of his mouth was he was quite a character. He met him with Richard Branson back in the early 80s when he worked for Virgin. BK it must be the same person.
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Aug 1 2012, 03:38 PM
I don't think Carole said anything in response to Jackie O, but either they edited to look like Carole was giving Luann an Oh Really, or she gave her that type of look.

Icy, I think it is okay for Luann to say American Indian. The whole nonsense about the scalping and war cry may have been over the top inappropriate, but then again as mentioned above, it may be the preview and not actually what happened.

I believe Ramona too about the leg. She wouldn't let it go probably because Aviva wouldn't let it go in the cab.
Well, I can't wait to see the episode. I'm sort of sick of Bravo making something seem much worse than it is, or even just plain BAD when it's completely innocuous.

I apologize, since I overstated to compare abuse with the use of an outdated term, certainly. FORGIVE ME!!!

I had an opportunity when I was in conversation with some people dressed in Native American dress. I asked if they preferred "Native American" and they said "Actually, we prefer 'First Nationers'." .... uh, what?? Later someone told me "That's what they call themselves in Canada - Canadian native populations."

I'll be interested to see where Luann falls in the discussion.

I need to rewatch the episode, because I missed the look!
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I'm still not 100% sure, cc. I would not have described the George I think it is, as a standout character. He used to run around taking pictures and telling old, corny jokes. If it is him, then something really sad must have happened to make him behave so rudely.

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Aug 1 2012, 01:59 PM
BTW: in the blogs, Ramona claims that Aviva fussed the whole way over to Ranjana's about not having her swimming leg and not wanting to get the leg she was wearing wet ... Ramona says she offered to forgo getting in the pool so Aviva wouldn't be the only one ... so Aviva is a fucking liar (no surprise to me) because in her blog she continues the tirade against Ramona's "help" ... I actually believe Ramona! (No surprise? LOL)
Yeah but ultimately it's going to be Aviva's own problem if she ruins her leg. I don't see why Ramona would need to have such a fit over it. Why not just say "Didn't you say on the way here that this leg can't get wet like that? I'll stay out of the pool with you." And if Aviva gets in anyway, oh well, she's the one who is going to have to pay a bazillion dollars probably to get it fixed or replaced. I'm sure those suckers aren't cheap and insurance probably isn't going to pay for another one if you're too dumb to keep it out of the pool.
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Yeah, Ramona is an evil twat and I love watching her go nuts.
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