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Topic Started: Dec 24 2011, 05:17 PM (65,040 Views)
dilbert2004
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No surprise, Carol liked the band.


Of course she did - she's cool, hip and cutting edge like that!
Except that band was anything but those things.
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A TWOPer reminded everyone of how upset Sonja got when Cindy had the gall to take a phone call during her toaster oven brunch. She had an absolute fit about that, yet didn't have a word to say about Ramona doing the same thing at that meeting.

And by the way, if Sonja wants what LuAnn and others have, as Ramona implied, then appearing as a drunken aging whore on national tv is probably not the way to go. Take a page out of LuAnn's book and at least fake some "class" to attract some shmuck to take you in. God, I find her so disgusting.
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I find Sonja disgusting too. She has a real sense of entitlement that she has not earned, unless roping in old Morgan counts. She looks like a fool. Boo Hoo, poor me, pour another drink; get out and hustle, Sonja, you know how to do it. It isn't going to come in the door. Bravo is sure giving publicity to the non-existent toaster oven.



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Aug 7 2012, 12:03 PM
...then appearing as a drunken aging whore on national tv is probably not the way to go.
LOL, Icki. That's the understatement of the week. Her stint as a Ho of NYC is going to cost her dearly in the long run. The horse has left the barn.

IMO, she's got an unusual beauty. Patrician nose, elegant carriage...when she's not acting like a drunken, aging whore.

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See, I thought Holla and her designer pal were trying to push Sonja aside. I do recall her going on and on about the J in her name. I don't recall her "approving" a logo ... usually you have to sign paperwork agreeing "this is the one" -- wouldn't you? And if she's not the client, why do they care what she has to say? Why can't they just use the logo they want? Oh, yeah, that's right -- because she IS the client. "Client" -- in any world, Holla -- does not mean they pay for what they get, it means they are the one who wants something you are supplying. Holla gets to act the businesswoman who knows what she's doing and Sonja -- forever -- accepts the work or doesn't. At one point I thought "oh, no" because I thought the design guy was damaging his reputation 1. by being on a reality show 2. by appearing as a completely arrogant asshole on a reality show ... but IMO he salvaged it by staying on the project. He was the first to concede, IIFC, despite Holla's THs and analogy about breaking up with a boyfriend.

I thought Sonja invited Ramona because she was feeling steamrollered by Holla and Designer-Guy.


* But excellent point about CBarshop taking a call while at Sonja's ... was that a business call during a girl's lunch, though? I've blocked most of CB from my memory, apparently!
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If Sonja was feeling steamrolled, she could just walk away instead of ambushing Heather by bringing in Ramona. It's not like Sonja is going to lose money (that she doesn't have) since Heather is doing this for FREE. And even if she is a "client," that doesn't necessarily mean that the people doing you a favor must oblige your every whim, especially when it's clear that she has no clue what she's doing. What if a client came in and insisted that they wanted a picture of them making sweet love to a horse on the cover of their "Grandma's Cookies" packages? Would the people developing the brand and packaging just go along with it because it's what the client wants?
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Finally watched the episode.
For all my Lulu love, why can't she just for once say, "OH, I'm sorry you perceived it that way, because I didn't mean it like that.I'm sorry." Stop belaboring the point!
I can see why Lulu is with Le Ross, he seems like he's funny, she loves a laugh, and he is probably a breath of fresh air after the Count.
I thought the lunch Lulu and Sonja had was cute; you can tell they really are friends they way they call each other "Sone" and "Lu".

And while I was taking an Olympic break today I just tuned in to Good Afternoon America just in time to see Heather Thompson Yummie Tummie jeans being featured ( a mom makeover or something). Did we know she had branched out into jeans, or am I tardy to the party?
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And while I was taking an Olympic break today I just tuned in to Good Afternoon America just in time to see Heather Thompson Yummie Tummie jeans being featured ( a mom makeover or something). Did we know she had branched out into jeans, or am I tardy to the party?


Wasn't LuAnn or Carole wearing the Yummie Tummie jeans in London? I remember Heather making a comment. I also remember thinking whoever was wearing them didn't need any girdle jeans.
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lol I had no idea. I also didn't know there was a new episode last night. I'm about 3 weeks behind.

Just what the world needs is another brand of jeans that most like cost way over a $100 a pop
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Aug 7 2012, 12:22 PM
I find Sonja disgusting too. She has a real sense of entitlement that she has not earned, unless roping in old Morgan counts. She looks like a fool. Boo Hoo, poor me, pour another drink; get out and hustle, Sonja, you know how to do it. It isn't going to come in the door. Bravo is sure giving publicity to the non-existent toaster oven.



Ha, that floozy really believes she's to the manner born. That sense of entitlement is her grasping at once being a Mrs Morgan. She can't take being plain ole Sonja Tremont. Ex restaurant hostess, party girl, mistress. That was the sum of Sonja's professional career - and it shows. The fact she couldn't even get a cookbook published is enough for me. Even with Bravo backing she couldn't get some crap book deal? Wow, even Teresa the idiot got it together (and had a best seller) while the former Mrs. JP Morgan (lol) can't even get out of her pajamas by 11am. And with 5 interns no less!

Oh Ratface, your faux (white girl!) indignation at Luann's calling herself "American Indian" is so patronizing. STFU, eat your cheese and go gnaw on some live wires, you faker.

cccharley, I had the wrong George! I don't know Aviva's father (but I still think he's disgusting).





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Meanwhile, I was just realizing, if Luann has that attitude about saying "Indian", it's no wonder her daughter has a similar attitude about other terms. And it explains how Luann came to be married to the Count, despite his views.

I mean, really, Luann equated using "American Indian" with "Darling."
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I think Luann was just needling Carole with her OTT scalping talk. I think Lulu is onto Carole's fixation on finding everything bad with Luann. I think Luann is at her best when she knows she is irritating and just blows it off and goes on her merry way.

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Was Luann's daughter using the n word the way rappers use it or was she using it as slur against Black people/African Americans?
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I was going to post, but I'm lazy. I agree with every single thing Icy said, so her post can be mine as well. :D

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I think Luann was just needling Carole with her OTT scalping talk. I think Lulu is onto Carole's fixation on finding everything bad with Luann. I think Luann is at her best when she knows she is irritating and just blows it off and goes on her merry way.

Probably Finestra, but that "Watch out for your scalp" and "savage" and war whooping was still behavior unbecoming a self proclaimed etiquette expert. I did laugh when Lulu said there are lots of "American Indians" FROM CANADA though. My guess is Lulu was drunk.

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Oh, yeah, that's right -- because she IS the client. "Client" -- in any world, Holla -- does not mean they pay for what they get, it means they are the one who wants something you are supplying.

Exactly. I have more than one friend who routinely work with "non-paying" clients; attorneys doing pro bono work, all social workers, etc. And what about all those "clients" on other Bravo shows; matchmakers and real estate buyers and sellers. In this case I get the designer's motivation but I'm not sure I get Holla's. Maybe she owed him a favor.

I think Sonja's complete lack of any kind of business acumen is exactly why she wanted Ramona to sit in on Meeting #2 with Holla and the graphic guy. She doesn't really know what she's doing and apparently had a tough time expressing herself to Bulldozer Holla so she brought in Bulldozer Ramona to help.

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